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I'm a little confused with the Jill/Kay clips with Deborah Adair. In the first video, Did Jill and Kay not have any interaction at all during the years that they replaced Brenda Dickson (the first time) with Bond Gideon and Adair? Forgive me if someone already talked about that but i just need a little memory refresh

Adair really does look intimidated (For Real) of Jeanne in those clips. Deedee you pointed that out on another post. I wonder why they still had Jill call Katherine Mrs. Chancellor at this point. I thought once Phillip died and they became enemies for life, Jill just called her by her first name free-willingly.

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Did Jill and Kay not have any interaction at all during the years that they replaced Brenda Dickson (the first time) with Bond Gideon and Adair?

Katherine & Jill have always (until recently) had a lot of interaction.

The irony is Katherine acted the same way when Jill married John the second time too. :lol:

Adair really does look intimidated (For Real) of Jeanne

It took Deborah awhile to settle into the part.

Her Jill was much softer than Brenda's.

It worked though because Deborah was in the same place (desperately trying to fit in) as Jill was at that point.

I wonder why they still had Jill call Katherine Mrs. Chancellor at this point.

Everyone called Katherine Mrs. Chancellor (or Kay) back then.

And it suited her because she was just (much like Victor) different.

I thought once Phillip died and they became enemies for life, Jill just called her by her first name free-willingly.
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So what was going on in that clip? why does Katherine act like she hasn't spoken to Jill for many years, especially when she says "I have waited many years" and asks Jill about Phillip. If Jill and Katherine were still interacting regularly at this point wouldn't she know these things about Jill right now?

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They were just interacting more than they had that year.

And Katherine had recently found out about Jill's intentions to marry John.

The Phillip stuff was their unresolved issues about Phillip's father.

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I never watched the show until the mid 80's so I don't know. But I though Kay and Jill had no interaction at all between about Mar 1980 to the time in this clip which was around Sep/Oct 1982.

If they did interact was it minimal at best as I don't remember ever reading about any storyline between the two women in that period I mentioned.

I know in this clip Kay just found out about Jill and John planning to marry. She ended up sending John a transcript of the paternity suit Jill brought against the Chancellor estate in 1976. Ashley saw it first and questioned Jill who managed to explain it all away to Ashley, though Ash warned her she would be keeping an eye on Jill and hid the transcript from her father and John and Jill were married in Oct 1982.

The second clip is from Dec 1982 when Kay let loose on Jill at a party she threw. Too bad Kay doesn't throw more parties these days.

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After the Derek/Suzanne story ended Jill and Katherine did have separate stories for a couple years there that never intersected. Katherine got stuck on the island with Felipe, had Cash Cashman and then her thing I mentioned with Alison's husband while as I mentioned Jill fell head over heels for Andy. Pretty much the same way Jill and Katherine interacted there the mid-90s I would imagine. And of course, DeeeDee is right about vets being sporadic today.

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Pretty much forgotten part of Jack's past.When it all started Bill Bell was talking it up,but Luan died and Keemo was dropped.

The problem to me was that Luan was boring and stereotyped and Keemo was wooden and one note.With better actors and more exciting stories,there could have been years of story,which is something a vet character like Jack needed.

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see each other for a whole month, and it was terribly difficult. But, it was the best thing that ever happened!" says the lady who plays Jill Foster in CBS-TV's daytime drama, The Young and the Restless.

"We had some things that we had to sort out, and we sorted them out," she said thoughtfully. "I just missed Bob so much, and he missed me. We were just so much in love. We had things that we disagreed about, but we just couldn't stay away from each other."

During the month that followed, they both knew it was a mistake to be apart. "And then, in San Francisco (Bob was going to some seminars up there) we really decided to get married.

"We were married in September 25th at the Bel AIr. Just our families and a few very close friends were there to help us celebrate."

She hugged herself as she recalled the joy and excitement of the whole occasion. "It's simply great!" she sighed, "everything worked out. Let's face it, if it was meant to be, it was meant to be, you know?"

A starry-eyed Brenda knows now that love does find a way. But only two short months before, she'd been far less sure of that. "Marriage is a very important thing to me," she'd told me then, "a very important step in my life. If I got married it would be a big step for me. I'd have to be absolutely sure that it's right. This was the only time I was ever close to getting married and it was pretty close to the wedding before I decided not to. But I think those things happen."

Brenda's far too wise and cautious to take a step like marriage lightly. "My parents were divorced, and I know divorce is a part of reality, a part of life. But I think one should get to know one's self, to know one's own needs, and know the other person well enough to know they'll fulfill those needs and vice versa, before they commit themselves in marriage."

I'd been impressed by her straight-thinking and her calm acceptance of so drastic a change in plans practically on the eve of her Fourth of July wedding. "We really had a lot to think about," she says now. "It was a big step for Bob, as well as for me."

Brenda is a bit of a fatalist, though, and states, "I think when one gets married, it's a time in their life when they're ready," she'd once told me. "You could have met that person five years, or two years earlier, and it wouldn't have been right because you wouldn't have been ready." And as it turns out, July was wrong, September was right for Brenda and Bob. She was bubbling over with joyous details; her voice was positively lyrical as she talked about the wedding.

"It was really an elopement," she explained. "The day of the wedding was a sunny California Saturday afternoon. The ceremony was beautifully intimate and took place in tranquilly serene surroundings. It was so perfect - a wonderful, wonderful day!" Their dearest friends and loved ones were there to hear their solemn vows and toast their future life together with champagne.

In the very best of elopement traditions, the bride and the groom were already packed, since they'd just returned from San Francisco. They didn't even shop for wedding finery, says Brenda. "I wore a white sequinned top, white satin pants and white satin high-heels. There were red roses in my corsage and in my hair. White is my favorite color," says the bride, "but I liked the red for contrast." The symbolism was perfect, too. Red roses have always been Cupid's symbolic love flower. "Bob wore a white Brioni suit with a red rose in his lapel," she added with a happy grin.

A storybook bride and groom in a setting reserved for Hollywood and the world's beautiful people. The Bel Air Hotel is the chic spot for celebrities from everywhere, the really 'in' place for very special occasions. And this one was certainly special!

They'd hoped for a quiet exchange of vows, with none of the hurry and hubbub so often accompany a Hollywood wedding, and that's exactly what it was. "Susan Glazer, a friend of mine whose husband is the director of American Band Stand, was my maid of honor, and Lloyd Gaines, a friend of Bob's and mine, was Bob's best man," she told me. (He had, in fact, been responsible for their meeting.)

Brenda met Bob on a blind date, and Lloyd (who is head of NBC's nighttime programming) had arranged it.

"Lloyd's a great guy, but he plays a lot of practical jokes," she explained. "He's a funny guy, and we used to joke about a lot of things. I expected my blind date to be a real dud, you know?" They hadn't really met of course, so when he wanted to go out for lunch. I said, 'Well, I have an interview scheduled. Why don't you just come over to my apartment, and we can visit for a few minutes, and then i have to run.'

"Well," she grins, "he came over to the apartment, and I thought he was great, and he thought I was great! I told him that I really don't have an interview and we went out for dinner." She was reflective for a moment as she remembered, "We were infatuated with each other when we met."

That had been the beautiful beginning, but the road to love is never smooth, Brenda and Bob learned.

"We saw each other everyday from the minute we met, she pointed out. "We never lived together, but we saw each other every day, all the time."

They didn't find out what it was like to miss each other until they broke up and shelved their wedding plans. "That's true," she said seriously. "The truth of it is, you have to be apart from somebody for a while to know if you REALLY love them!"

What a profound statement from a girl who is so obviously and gloriously in love, and so newly committed to the man she loves. They'd spent all their free moments together, so how could they possible have sorted out their real feelings for each other, or committed their lives to each other!

"I don't believe in living together arbitrarily," Brenda told me. "I think if you're going to get married, why live together?" I think it's fine for those who don't feel that way, but that was not for Bob and me."

Neither do these two share the general feeling among today's young couples who plan mar marriage only when they're ready to raise a family. "If there comes a time in our lives when we have the space for a child, and when we especially want a a child, we'll have one. However, that isn't the case right now. It's not a thing where I have to have a child, or because Bob feels he has to have a child. We feel that when we're ready, when the time comes that we want to have kids, we'll have them."

In the meanntime, both are busy with careers they love, as well as busy with each other. Brenda's role as Jill Foster is a five-day-a-week commitment which she loves.

"I happen to like the show and the character I play. Most of all, I enjoy working," she says. "My career has been very good to me; it's taken me around the world!

"Bob respects my career," she added. "He lets me do my thing, and I let him do his."

They, in fact, had only a one-night honeymoon. But they're going to take a honeymoon in April when Brenda can get time off the show. "We're going to Europe," she said with obvious joyous anticipation. "I love it - it's so romantic."

The newlyweds are living in Bob's bachelor house in Mandeville Canyon ,which is as lovely a setting for newlyweds as the Gazebo had been for the wedding ceremony.

"I love being married and being a wife!" she told me ecstatically. They'd squeezed a beautiful and memorable wedding and a one-day honeymoon into a perfect weekend. Everything had gone exactly as planned: quietly, intimately - without a hitch. "After the wedding, about 15 of us had champagne in the suite."

Not a soul knew about it, except the minister, the bride and groom and their guests. Nevertheless, they didn't escape all the reporters and photographers' flashbulbs, after all!

"We hadn't told anybody, but there was a huge party at the Bel Air on Sunday," she recalled, "and when Bob and I came walking out of our suite, there were the photographers! I was so shocked that I couldn't believe it! There were reporters there, too, and they said, 'May we have a picture?' Here we'd kept the whole thing a secret, and we thought no on e knew a thing about the wedding. We thought this was the worst thing that could have happened. Wow, what bad timing!

"They did take several pictures, but we said, 'We're really in a hurry because we're going out for lunch.' They let us go, but they really didn't know about the wedding! Their secret was safe until they decided to tell people all about it on their own.

Now that plain gold wedding band on Brenda's ring finger and her own happy smile tell the story for them. The wedding band is the perfect complement to the engagement ring that became a love story in itself.

"We were going to get married at the Bel Air, where we actually did get married," she began, "but this was long before we'd set the date last July. We were engaged, but he hadn't given me an engagement ring yet. We were at the Gazebo where it was dark, and we were just kind of playing around and going through a make-believe ceremony when Bob said, 'Now, may I have the ring?' He pretended that his best man was there, too. Then he said, 'Close your eyes.' He took off the ring I was wearing and put on my engagement ring!" What a romantic way to surprise his bride-to-be with the engagement ring she'd never seen!

"I thought it was my old ring!" Brenda explained with stars in her eyes to match those sparkling diamonds. "Bob made the ring himself. He designed it and cast it in wax, and then took it and had it made," she said softly. "I love it!The ring has a big diamond in the middle, and another one almost the same size, and it has five little diamonds around it - they're all pear-shaped."

Happiness exudes in her voice, reflects in her eyes, glows all over her. She's a glamorous lady, a radiant bride, and just what the doctor ordered, for Dr. Robert Rifkin that is! She's found the happiest of all worlds for herself, too. She has work she enjoys, the man she loves, and a happy alliance between the two. "Of course, if I had to go on location for six weeks or several months that might just be a wee little bit of a problem," she mused, smiling. But, you gather that even that these two lovebirds could cope with.

"We were just too much in love to say good-bye," she'd told me. Love had, indeed, found a way! "But we had a lot of things to think about, and I think we did. I know that in my mind, I thought about the whole relationship, and I'm confident that Bob did, too."

It's a first marriage for Brenda, a second for Bob. But it has the look of a marriage made in heaven that will mean forever for both of them...

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I'm glad you enjoyed it. When I saw that I thought you would like it - and I'd never seen the photo before (a lot of the same photos tend to be seen again and again). She was so stunning.

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