Just from that clip, I can tell that Vanessa was a riot. A monster-in-law from hell. Her body language alone wreaked of hatred for Lorie and it was hilarious. But I love how Lorie tossed it right back at her. Just seeing Vanessa seething when Lance pronounced Lorie as family/his future wife, and seeing Vanessa peeved was so good. I wish soaps would play up more on the dynamics of disgruntled in-laws [like Vanessa/Lorie] nowadays. Instead we got Victor tormenting Sharon and Billy, which is totally one-sided and a bore.

Oh how I wish SONY would release any existing episodes of Y&R from that era. Thanks for posting another clip from that era! I hope more arise.

Dammit, as I aforementioned, Y&R needs to bring back their original core families because I'm more endeared to them from the little I've seen then I am the Newmans and Abbotts.

Thank you so much for putting these up! Robert Colbert was excellent in his scenes. I've never seen his work before.

Lorie and Vanessa at each other's throats. You can see Vanessa now in all her veiled, nasty glory (At the very end, you get a quick glimpse of her spying on them in her two way mirror. )

Wow! after all this talk can't believe we finally get to meet the notorious Vanessa(the actress K.T Stevens sort of looks like she has Deidre Hall's eyes with that Veil on)......boy you were right what a cold hearted creepy bitch of a woman.....she looks like some sort of gypsy queen wannabe with her veils and outfit....loved Lorie being bitchy towards her when she ordered Lorie to go wait in her room (who does that?? haha). I love how she doesn't even really acknowledge that Lorie and Lance are married and calls Lorie "Ms.Brooks".

Great to see John McCook as Lance.....he doesn't even call Vanessa mother? haha that whole "bonding" after a trip just sounds weird....

can't wait to see more, I already can't get enough after this clip!

Vanessa hated both Prentiss girls but was more willing to work with Lorie (who she despised) over Leslie (who she viewed as the bigger threat).

Vanessa hated both Prentiss girls but was more willing to work with Lorie (who she despised) over Leslie (who she viewed as the bigger threat).

Why did she think Leslie was a bigger threat?

It's interesting that Vanessa was on for quite a while (1976-1981 I believe?) What were some of her other schemes against the Brooks Girls besides the framing Lorie for her death?

Leslie was the Brooks sister most likely to get Lance & Lucas (who constantly sacrificed everything for her) to leave Vanessa permanently (who wanted nothing more than to be the only woman in their lives).

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Leslie was the Brooks sister most likely to get Lance & Lucas (who constantly sacrificed everything for her) leave Vanessa permanently (who wanted nothing more than to be the only woman in their lives).

Gotcha...the whole thing is just old fashioned crazy soap goodness that they wouldn't even try today.....

Vanessa arranged for Lorie's book that detailed Leslie's breakdown to be released and also schemed to have Lorie discover that Leslie was pregnant with Lance's child.

Was the book what Vanessa meant when she said she knew things about Lorie?

Did Vanessa ever have any scenes with JL's Leslie?

The tension between Lorie and Vanessa is delicious to watch. You can sort of see that Lorie is in over her head, yet you can also see why Vanessa is so rattled.

It's a real credit to Bill Bell that he managed to get 4-5 years of story with Vanessa. Today's soaps would get a year at best. Even JER, with his "woman in white" story, only kept her around for about a year.

Was the book what Vanessa meant when she said she knew things about Lorie?

Did Vanessa ever have any scenes with JL's Leslie?

The tension between Lorie and Vanessa is delicious to watch. You can sort of see that Lorie is in over her head, yet you can also see why Vanessa is so rattled.

It's a real credit to Bill Bell that he managed to get 4-5 years of story with Vanessa. Today's soaps would get a year at best. Even JER, with his "woman in white" story, only kept her around for about a year.

I gather the book is what Vanessa is reffering to. Vanessa found Leslie more docile and easy to deal with than spitfire Lorie. Later on Lorie taunts Vanessa when she thinks she is faking her injuries and Vanessa lifts the veil to show her she is not. Lorie then discovers she could have had surgery, but uses it as a way to keep Lance close to her.

I read that Janice Lynde left in early 1977 and K.T. Stevens came on in early 1976, so I assume they did have scenes together. K.T. Stevens was friends with Jeanne Cooper in real life for years prior to them both being on Y&R. K.T. was the ex wife of Hugh Marlowe.

In some these clips, JLB has a bit of a 70's Sissy Spacek look going on.

KT & Hugh's son, Christian Marlowe, was also an actor for a while and appeared on 'Love of Life' as Andy Marriott in the late 70s while both KT & Hugh were on Y&R & AW respectively. He later won an Olympic Gold Medal in Volleyball and is currently sports commentator, most notably with the Denver Nuggets.

http://www.nba.com/nuggets/staff_directory/Marlowe_bio.html

TPTB today are under the false impression that viewers aren't patient enough to sit through long scenes like this (And these are VERY long scenes) and it's these scenes that give all that in depth character development. Also, virtually all shows today are run by committee, and it completely destroys the focus. Only two people wrote all that dialogue in these clips, and that was Bill and Kay. Jaime Lyn Bauer is very unique, in that she walks the line between realistic actress and campy scenery chewer, but she never really crosses over it. She just somehow makes it real, and makes you BELIEVE that Lorie is a drama queen, as opposed to an ACTRESS being a drama queen.

The whole thing makes me angry because we're seeing more and more shows with long-term narratives finding success in primetime. And soaps are just totally behind the curve, assuming viewers have the attention span of a gnat.

In some these clips, JLB has a bit of a 70's Sissy Spacek look going on.

No wonder I enjoy her work so much.

No wonder I enjoy her work so much.

I could def see JLB as Carrie if she ever wanted to give Hollywood a go during that time....