8 hours ago, MarlandFan said:

I've also been worried about YouTube suddenly taking down all of these old episodes.  As a result, I've been downloading the videos I want and storing them on DropBox.  I use this free website to download to my computer: https://yt5s.com/en120/youtube-to-mp4   

 

Ah, thank you. I was downloading about a year-ish/two years ago and got behind. I need to find the episodes I have.

Ahem, as I said upthread, y’all can feel free to listen to crazymakers who dip in the thread to create chaos and then bounce if you want but I would rather stay on the side of level-headedness, until and unless I have reason…valid reason to believe otherwise. IOW, show me the receipts.

 

I will check into that. Doesn't make sense to me. Hundreds of episodes were digitized from differnt eras back when "Soap Classics" was putting out DVDs. We were close to having a monthly release of ATWT and GL eps.

— Roger Newcomb (@rogernewcomb) August 12, 2022

Sigh what could have been with the DVD releases.

 

I'm encouraged Retro wanted them (Edge of Night seems compatible to The Doctors, however, as does Another World - are they all LOST? - Thank GOD for YouTube as of now). P&G SUCKS.

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Ahem, as I said upthread, y’all can feel free to listen to crazymakers who dip in the thread to create chaos and then bounce if you want but I would rather stay on the side of level-headedness, until and unless I have reason…valid reason to believe otherwise. IOW, show me the receipts.

 

It's the same person who called me a homophobe.😂

Roger seemed surprised in his response.

So wild hearing Roger say they were ready for monthly releases. It does seem like the rug was pulled from under them. They seemed to think everything was going well and for a while it seemed that way, but as always with soaps, something had to go wrong.

6 hours ago, KMan101 said:

Sigh what could have been with the DVD releases.

 

I'm encouraged Retro wanted them (Edge of Night seems compatible to The Doctors, however, as does Another World - are they all LOST? - Thank GOD for YouTube as of now). P&G SUCKS.

The RetroTV thing really drives me crazy. Soap fans are the only group that don't have a streaming service devoted to them. You have stuff for game shows, wrestling, British tv, sitcoms, etc., but not soaps. Imagine how excited the community would be if that app had multiple soaps on it. I hope that even though P&G turned them down that they can find another company willing to license soaps to them.

1 hour ago, Chris B said:

So wild hearing Roger say they were ready for monthly releases. It does seem like the rug was pulled from under them. They seemed to think everything was going well and for a while it seemed that way, but as always with soaps, something had to go wrong.

The SoapClassics people said this years ago.
It’s obvious that P&G was no longer interested in profit-sharing with the company. Conjecture on my part (notice that I said conjecture, not fact) but it wouldn’t surprise me if P&G thought they could take it on in-house and keep all the profits for themselves before discovering that their corporation is too chaotic and hyper focused on their corporate business to do what needed to be done with distribution of their television productions.  A few years ago, it was in several trade magazines that P&G were trying to put out “Choose Your Own Adventure” entertainment programming with the idea toward product placement of their own products online, but that flopped. P&G seems to struggle with the type of creative entertainment that they once pioneered.

That being said, my original contention was that, even the destruction of master reels would cost P&G a good sum of money and is not as straight forward as some would contend. 

Edited August 18, 20223 yr by DramatistDreamer

6 hours ago, Chris B said:

So wild hearing Roger say they were ready for monthly releases. It does seem like the rug was pulled from under them. They seemed to think everything was going well and for a while it seemed that way, but as always with soaps, something had to go wrong.

The RetroTV thing really drives me crazy. Soap fans are the only group that don't have a streaming service devoted to them. You have stuff for game shows, wrestling, British tv, sitcoms, etc., but not soaps. Imagine how excited the community would be if that app had multiple soaps on it. I hope that even though P&G turned them down that they can find another company willing to license soaps to them.

 

Yep. A SoapClassics/SOAPNET revival would work well. RetroTV was the closest we had.

 

ABC must be holding on for dear life to AMC and OLTL.

 

Santa Barbara deserves a run but isn't all of it on YouTube?

7 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 my original contention was that, even the destruction of master reels would cost P&G a good sum of money and is not as straight forward as some would contend. 

And normally a publicly traded company on the NYSE (such as P&G) feels a great enough obligation to its shareholders not to destroy a marketable product (and those recordings are, after all, "marketable products"), simply to humor a "petty executive with a small dick" so that he will "feel better about himself", without first performing a thorough evaluation of the cost/benefit of storing the product versus the potential realizable revenue of marketing the product.  I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule of shareholder fiduciary; this doesn't seem to be one, though.  

5 minutes ago, Broderick said:

And normally a publicly traded company on the NYSE (such as P&G) feels a great enough obligation to its shareholders not to destroy a marketable product (and those recordings are, after all, "marketable products"), simply to humor a "petty executive with a small dick" so that he will "feel better about himself", without first performing a thorough evaluation of the cost/benefit of storing the product versus the potential realizable revenue of marketing the product.  I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule of shareholder fiduciary; this doesn't seem to be one, though.  

Another great point.

We all may think that P&G is a terrible corporation (with good reason) but it is a company that has been around for several generations now and trades on the stock market and has a responsibility to its shareholders not to do unpredictable things. Unlike a tech company whose ethos is generally to “move fast and break things”, P&G is a staid  corporate entity that built its success on having a trusted, somewhat predictable reputation. They’re not Tesla, P&G’s version of chaotic is generally having people compete for who will be next in line to be one of the next 17 Vice-presidents of a given division. Even their less successful products are likely to be spun off and merged rather than eliminated completely. No large corporation outside of a very limited number of tech companies could get away with such knee jerk behavior, not in the 21st century of corporate responsibility and regard for legacy.

OMG - you all are HYSTERICALLY funny. You whine and moan and complain about P&G for the decade I've been following this board (I don't ever post because y'all have some serious issues) and I, in good faith, come on to share news from Colleen - news that makes PERFECT sense since absolutely NOTHING has happened with any of their soaps for a decade when other product is being put out there (The Doctors, B&B, Y&R) and suddenly now y'all think P&G is a stand-up company that wouldn't do such a thing. It's just laughable. Absolutely laughable.

 

It wouldn't cost anything to wipe the episodes. You throw away VHS tapes and hit the "delete"button on digital copies. P&G is still around; however, P&G Entertainment, which is what produced the soaps no longer exists as a company and hasn't for over a decade. My friend who writes for General Hospital is absolutely right when he says "don't even try to communicate with so called-fans. They're a bunch of bitter nobody's who think they would know how to deal with corporate executives and budgets and deadlines and actors leaving and returning all while trying to write 5 episodes a week."

 

I'm done with y'all - that's why I only pop on every once in a while if I have something of value to add to a conversation. Except there IS no conversation. Just banging my head against a wall.

26 minutes ago, adrnyc said:

I'm done with y'all - that's why I only pop on every once in a while if I have something of value to add

Let's not go that far. Thanks for stopping by!

What value?

It's only "valuable" if it's proven to be accurate.  (And no, SONY hasn't put any Y&R "out there"; in fact, old episodes of Y&R, uploaded by fans who have recordings, are frequently removed from internet channels due to "copyright infringement". )  

2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

What value?

Exactly! All he does is cause a ruckus and leaves.

16 hours ago, adrnyc said:

OMG - you all are HYSTERICALLY funny. You whine and moan and complain about P&G for the decade I've been following this board (I don't ever post because y'all have some serious issues) and I, in good faith, come on to share news from Colleen - news that makes PERFECT sense since absolutely NOTHING has happened with any of their soaps for a decade when other product is being put out there (The Doctors, B&B, Y&R) and suddenly now y'all think P&G is a stand-up company that wouldn't do such a thing. It's just laughable. Absolutely laughable.

 

It wouldn't cost anything to wipe the episodes. You throw away VHS tapes and hit the "delete"button on digital copies. P&G is still around; however, P&G Entertainment, which is what produced the soaps no longer exists as a company and hasn't for over a decade. My friend who writes for General Hospital is absolutely right when he says "don't even try to communicate with so called-fans. They're a bunch of bitter nobody's who think they would know how to deal with corporate executives and budgets and deadlines and actors leaving and returning all while trying to write 5 episodes a week."

 

I'm done with y'all - that's why I only pop on every once in a while if I have something of value to add to a conversation. Except there IS no conversation. Just banging my head against a wall.

It's P&G Productions, not P&G Entertainment.  And yes, it does still exist. Today, they mostly provide in-house production facilities for the corporation.