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OK. So I sat and watched the infamous climax of Carolyn Crawford's murder and I've always wondered for the longest--what was the main reason that she was killed? 

 

Also, it always boggled my mind as to why Marland would center a story behind someone the audience didn't even care for. 

 

Didn't he break one of his own rules?

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8 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

When rejected sitcom themes are used to advertise soaps ... Also, I know it wasn't directly affected, but not even a mention for ol' GL?

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1 hour ago, Franko said:

When rejected sitcom themes are used to advertise soaps ... Also, I know it wasn't directly affected, but not even a mention for ol' GL?

 

This aired during GL (I asked the uploader if they could put up those episodes, but sadly they said no).

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17 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

OK. So I sat and watched the infamous climax of Carolyn Crawford's murder and I've always wondered for the longest--what was the main reason that she was killed? 

 

Also, it always boggled my mind as to why Marland would center a story behind someone the audience didn't even care for. 

 

Didn't he break one of his own rules?

 

My theory was always to show Frannie still had lousy taste in men...and I think the original reason she was probably killed was for the money (if rumors of the original killer being her husband were true).

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17 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

OK. So I sat and watched the infamous climax of Carolyn Crawford's murder and I've always wondered for the longest--what was the main reason that she was killed? 

 

Also, it always boggled my mind as to why Marland would center a story behind someone the audience didn't even care for. 

 

Didn't he break one of his own rules?

The original story written by Marland was Darryl was the killer of Carolyn and did it for the money and to have full control of the company. Midway Marland changed it because he felt it was a repeat of the Douglas story and he didn't want Frannie duped by another man who turned out to be a killer again. So he had one of Darryl lame assistant frame him for murder because he wanted the money and felt Darryl didn't love Carolyn and he did. The revelation still did well either ranking #2 or #3 for the week among the 11 soaps on the air at the time. IMO Marland made a mistake in changing the ending of the story.

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1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

The original story written by Marland was Darryl was the killer of Carolyn and did it for the money and to have full control of the company. Midway Marland changed it because he felt it was a repeat of the Douglas story and he didn't want Frannie duped by another man who turned out to be a killer again. So he had one of Darryl lame assistant frame him for murder because he wanted the money and felt Darryl didn't love Carolyn and he did. The revelation still did well either ranking #2 or #3 for the week among the 11 soaps on the air at the time. IMO Marland made a mistake in changing the ending of the story.

 

Something seemed strange about the Carolyn Crawford murder mystery, and perhaps you have just explained it.  Marland was famous for always knowing who the murderer was, before one of his murder stories even began on-air.  And his murder mysteries were always well plotted -- until this one.  CC's murder dragged on for months, and involved too many new characters who the audience didn't care about.  Since it wrapped up not long before Marland's death, I have always wondered if perhaps his health was failing, and he just wasn't up to his usually writing zest. Or perhaps he had turned-over the end of this story to one of his assistants, because of his health.  Whatever the cause, the CC murder mystery certainly didn't seem like Marland was at the helm.   

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Darryl being the killer would've been so much better. Jennifer having a murderer as her father. The Barbara affair. He could've had added story but it was obvious he was short term so why not make him the killer?

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Here are the ratings for the Carolyn Crawford murder reveal.

 

 

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Nov 2-6, 1992

 

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1. Y&R 8.6/30

2. AMC 6.9/22

3. ATWT 6.2/22

4. B&B 6.0/20

5. GH 5.7/19

6. GL 5.6/18

7. OLTL 5.2/18

8. DAYS 4.9/16

9. AW 3.4/12

10. LOV 2.7/10

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1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

Darryl being the killer would've been so much better. Jennifer having a murderer as her father. The Barbara affair. He could've had added story but it was obvious he was short term so why not make him the killer?

 

Because, Frannie would've looked like the dumbest woman in the world for falling for ANOTHER psychotic person.

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I can see why Marland hesitated - having Daryl as the killer was very obvious and there was no real story to get out of it - but I wonder how much of his plans were changed by Mary Ellen Stuart wanting to leave. If she'd stayed, then we would have seen more aftermath for Frannie, especially in her badly strained relationship with Barbara. I also felt like they were dropping hints about a Hal/Frannie pairing in late summer '92, possibly before MES told them she was going. 

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Martha Byrne in a talk with SOD Podcast claims when she originally auditioned in 1984 for ATWT's Lily, she was up aganist Lucy Deakins (who got the job) & Amy Locane (Melrose Place, Cry Baby)

 

Martha also states that OG Lily, Lucy Deakins took the film The Boy who could fly & in doing so broke her ATWT contract & Martha was brought in the next day to take on Lily

 

EDIT TO ADD: Martha on SOD Podcast said her 2008 exit began as a contract issue but the reason she left  was because of a power struggle from the other side and that wasnt ok & became dark. So she couldnt go back to work there.

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