As The World Turns Discussion Thread

[saynotoursoap]

Michael Levin "that RH actor" is older than Eileen Fulton. Levin was born in 1932 and Fulton in 1933. I see your point, though. Levin's appearance was younger than his age as long as he wore his toup.

[Mitch]

Wow, I had no idea!!! I thought for sure he was much, much younger.

[DRW50]

Levin aged well and had a pretty good body so I think that helped him, along with the hairpiece.

This is him in more recent years. You can also see Maureen Garrett, and Randall Edwards (temp Annie 1982 -- I am still looking for her episodes...).

http://briangari.com/ryan.html

[Mitch]

God, Marland's later ATWT years were so, so, so, homoerotic!!! How did Linc go from being a beefy BLOND to a skinny brunette???

LURVE Damien but forgot how young Lily looked (at that time) next to him. She looks like a kid! (LOL...at her "cutting an album," like anyone wants to hear her sing..why do actors who have an okay voice insist they can "sing."??) I woulda been just like that waitress "Well HELLO!" being confronted with Damien?

[DRW50]

I have never understood that Linc recast. I wonder if Marland planned all along to bring him back just to kill him off? I imagine that some of his plans must have already been changed by then -- I don't think he would have written Iva out. That whole story is kind of hysterical to watch, mostly because none of Linc's relatives are much in the acting department, and Hannah is a hoot. I do like Connor and yummy Evan, as always.

That is also around the time that Lily was working at Walsh, the TV station, and singing. It's hard to believe that later on she and so many others became allergic to careers.

One of the reasons I disliked Lily was because I thought she was dull and never understood why she was supposed to be such a little darling, but when I watch again, even though Holden/Lily still bore me to tears, I appreciate her sense of normalcy. I think Martha grounds the role and the material. I was watching one of the November 1986 episodes where Lily and Meg are sparring and Lily, even with all her money, comes across as an insecure, very typical teen, hiding behind bravado as squealing Meg seems so much more at ease with everything.

[soapfan770]

Thanks for sharing I remember enjoying the Linc Lafferty murder mystery very much and recall Connor being the prime suspect but then it turned out that his murderer fled to Genoa City under the alias of Sharon Collins. Didn't the show bring back Marcy too during that period?

Edited December 26, 2010 by soapfan770

[DRW50]

Yes, Marcy was back briefly. I can't remember much of the story but I remember her coming in wearing widow's weeds, and Michael Logan on Pure Soap saying he was happy because ATWT had been so boring and this might liven it up.

From the August 29, 1995 Weekly (K-III Magazines). It's written by Caelie M. Haines.

Edited December 26, 2010 by CarlD2

[DRW50]

This is very jumpy but it's a fun scene, an early, awkward argument between Lucinda and Lisa, about 2 minutes in. The wardrobe seems very wrong for both ladies, especially Lucinda (that boring necklace and smothering hat and coat), but I love some of Lisa's lines, like, "the ladybird will soon be a jailbird." The outfit for Kim also seems odd -- she looks like she's going to a British Royal wedding. You can see a closer look at that in the first clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi3KrThPgok&feature=related

[Mitch]

"There she goes, shooting her mouth off again!" I love John vs. Lisa...huge Gautman mistake that his "thing," against Fulton prevented a longer, more protracted John/Lucinda/Lisa "brawl," for old times sake. I actually liked this period a bit better then Marland's..it was still ATWT but more trashy "fun," then Marland's sometimes uber earnest ATWT.

Was that the Duncan actor as a extra playing a cop in the courthouse?

[DRW50]

I'm not sure. It's hard to tell. I don't think he was the one escorting Steve.

That's Judith Barcroft (Anne Tyler, AMC; Lenore Bancroft, AW; Barbara Wilde, RH) as the prosecuting attorney.

Apparently the show was a real mess at this time backstage (one of the actors who played, I think, the fiance to Steve's sister, Ernie Townsend is his name, talked about some of the problems after he left -- he wasn't allowed to touch the man who was strangling his girlfriend because the man was "the star" of the show; actors had to wait around 3 hours for sets to change; characters would be put in scenes together based mainly on what sets were up; he was brought in to kill someone and then that person suddenly got a long term contract).

But it does have a lot of entertaining stuff too. Diana is fascinating to watch, and the early Lisa/Lucinda feuding is fun, as is Lisa having a big family of her own. It's also a little more freewheeling.

I also LOVE the Montgomery family dynamic and I still will never understand why Maggie was never mentioned again after her sudden exit. I realize that her being around meant less story for Lyla, but I still enjoy her presence, and it's fascinating how much she reminds me of Margo. Margo also seems a little more fun here and not as much misery as she started getting with Marland. It's a shame about this goofy Tom at this time but he didn't last long.

I love the Montgomery bits of the episode where Maggie has to give baby Jill back to Cal. Not so much her blubbing, but the laughing before Cal arrives, and then the family standing up to Cal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIi2Lynz7wE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl4QtJ64m7k&feature=related

Edited December 28, 2010 by CarlD2

[Soapsuds]

The pre-Marland stuff I thought was fantastic. I enjoyed it a lot. Was Bunim EP at the time of all the backstage mess?? I loved Diana and the Montgomerys....Craig..etc....once Marland came in the show became more of the Waltons with a lot of Dallas sprinkled into it. Which I liked as well.

[DRW50]

I think Bunim was EP, then Calhoun took over from her. I always want to hear more about the backstage stuff then. I know Tonya Pinkins/Heather said she thought that the female producer (Bunim I guess) liked her, only to learn that the woman actually hated her. Then she said that Calhoun wouldn't let her do other projects and rarely used her and then basically after she went on vacation she was told she was fired. Calhoun denied all of this and seemed surprised.

[Soapsuds]

That's a shame because I liked the Heather character better than Jessica that Marland created. Tonya Pinkins is a great actress.

I think maybe Marland had Jessica in mind and they didnt need both her and Heather on the canvas since she(Heather) wasnt Marland's creation.

Edited December 28, 2010 by Soapsuds

[DRW50]

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[Soapsuds]

Gotta love Lucinda!!

I couldn't stand the Earl Mitchell character...so dull and boring. I prefered her with Grant Coleman.