On 12/31/2021 at 6:38 AM, Chris B said:

 

RHOM

It's amazing that the show has been so interesting and it took until episode 4 for us to have our first fight amongst wives. I don't know why this is so good, but these producers really know what they're doing. I know they also produce Married To Medicine, which is also consistent. I don't know why Bravo doesn't have them do more shows. If Dallas returns, this company definitely needs to be in charge.

What I liked about the Guerdy and Adriana thing is that this is a light, petty housewives feud. These shows tend to get very dark and personal, but this I can get behind. Both were right and both were wrong which is more fun for me as a viewer. 

The part that REALLY intrigued me was how Martina kept siding with Guerdy, who she barely knows and how upset she seemed about the foot massage. Yes Guerdy was messy bringing it up, but you could tell Martina was PISSED. I know it's just a show, but Julia seems like she's really into Adriana. Now if Adriana is really into her I'm not sure, but Julia DEFINITELY wants that cat. This storyline is my favorite and what I want to see more of. I am so curious where this is going to end up.

Larsa continues to confuse me, but I did enjoy her scene with her daughter. Nicole, on the other hand, is completely losing me. I feel like she could've been a friend. I'm not seeing how she fits in overall. Kiki is adorable and so beautiful. She's the perfect friend. She shows up looking gorgeous, says a little bit here and there and lets the women do most of the work. I really like her pop ups.

Feel the same way. I'm kind of obsessed with RHOM at the moment, and cannot wait to watch each new episode. The cast is a good mix of pre-established and new relationships, so we are not sure how some people will gel with others. And the stories have me intrigued. The only one not understanding the assignment is Larsa. I don't hate her on the show, but I often forget she's there, and that's not good.

The Adriana-Julia-Martina triangle is officially my fave SL thus far.@Faulkner touched on the idea that Adriana might be the OC Tamra to Julia's Fernanda -- I.e.: that she is playing up a flirtation for the cameras. Could well be, but Julia is starting to REALLY get into it, and Martina is not pleased about that at all. And I honestly cannot see Martina doing some acting routine on a reality soap. Her reaction of antipathy to Adriana and sympathy towards Guerdy felt 100% real. MN is just not the type of person to bother hiding or faking her feelings for TV.

Adriana has become the villainous vixen of the show, and I'm ok with that. I thought her jumping down Guerdy's throat was out of line, as was her annoyance and misreading of Julia and Guerdy bonding over their lost babies. I do think there might be some truth to Guerdy liking to be center of attention, but that's what makes Guerdy a fun, dramatic, OTT kind of personality. She brings it and fits the cast well.

Appreciated Alexia keeping it 100 with the audience and saying that Herman's lover just was not comfortable appearing on camera and talking about the relationship. 

Nicole hasn't gelled as quickly as some of the other cast but I think she's getting there. I had no idea she was half-Cuban-Puerto Rican, and we are starting to see some organic family drama come into play.

I wish we would see and hear more of Kiki. I feel like she hasn't established herself in my mind yet as being part of this cast.

Overall -- can't get enough of this show!

Larsa has had the nice individual scenes with her family, and figuring out her next steps.

Marysol is the perfect FOH...she's funny and almost the Greek chorus.  

Adriana is too thristy.  I would appreciate her as the villainess if she had her original face.

Candiace trolling Andy on Twitter like no currently-employed RH I have ever seen:

 

9 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

Larsa has had the nice individual scenes with her family, and figuring out her next steps.

Marysol is the perfect FOH...she's funny and almost the Greek chorus.  

Adriana is too thristy.  I would appreciate her as the villainess if she had her original face.

Larsa also had THE reaction shot of the episode when Julia started covering Adriana's face in kisses. 

Marysol is so funny and relaxed as a FOH this season (a big difference from S3). I love her on the reboot. She seems happier and a lot less anxious. Her Greek Chorus grounds the show.

I'm missing Adriana's original hair the most. She's aged and gained weight on her face, but I think she'd look more like her original self if she didn't have that awful two-tone dye job. She looks better in her VT, so lack of glam may be a part of it. I don't think Adriana has the money Alexia and Guerdy have for their looks. In fact, I think relative wealth may be a reason why Adriana and Marysol are FOHs this season, when they should be on the main cast. 

@Cat yeah, I cannot say enough how much I miss Adriana's raven hair. 

 

Meanwhile...

 

RHOA

 

Somewhere...Kenya is smirking...

 

 

 

BH

 

And...some tea...looks like Garcelle's son is working for LISA VANDERPUMP at her Vegas restaurant.

 

If I didn't know better...I would say Garcelle and LVP are plotting. hehe. 

For the most part, I felt like Mary did a good job of defending herself this week. I notice that there's quit a stir on twitter about her using Jennie's accent, but of course no comment about the blaccent that Jennie uses and the neck rolling whenever she talks to Mary. It's obvious what they're doing and I feel they'll likely win. There's only so many people Mary can fight against. Whitney has the nerve to say she can't have toxic friends, but her friend Sara from season one was at the Jan 6th riots. These racist republican women are just trying to push Mary out, who they never liked in the first place. Heather's anime comment was overlooked, her fetishizing Black men has always been overlooked. Their constant talking down to Mary is overlooked, but now that Mary speaks up she's dangerous, racist and scary. Hell, next week Jen, the criminal, is fighting Lisa, but they're scared of MARY?! They need to take down MARY, who has no criminal background? You can't convince me none of this is because she's Black.

A list of every HW and friend in order of age on Reddit.

 

Well...

 

 

 

Congratulations Porsha. You got into your FOURTH physical altercation on camera

 

ETA: I see this was already posted

Edited January 3, 20223 yr by Cheap21

On 12/31/2021 at 6:35 AM, Cat said:

So @Gray Bunny did this last year, and I am basically copy-pasting most of the categories used.

 

***THE BEST & WORST OF 2021***

2021 was a rough year for RH shows. Covid impacted filming. Tolerance of bad behaviour and selfishness has changed – it’s harder to enjoy certain kinds of pettiness when, in a pandemic context especially, we see how cruel, selfish, petty behaviour can harm. I also think we are generally exhausted by life in general. RHs has tried to evolve and adapt, but with varying degrees of success. And the job is unfinished.

Has RH passed its sell-by date? Could be. I'm still watching, and I am still addicted to many of the shows. However, I may be more inclined to let go of the ones that no longer work for me. There is some light at the end of the tunnel -- Peacock streaming of RHUGT and Miami reflects a new, lighter RHs premise. What this means for RHs on Bravo, or for Andy Cohen? Unclear.

 

Best Show 

RHOBH.

As over-produced and scripted as it is, the show finally worked this year. It worked because it was coldly forensic in its focus on Erika and Did She/Didn’t She Know. Very Columbo-style as Team Pretty (Garcelle and Sutton) tried to avoid the traps set by Team Coven while pointing out the ridiculous discrepancies in Erika’s story.

As with soaps, I often watch these shows for eventual karmic retribution for characters I hate, so it helped that Rinna, Erika and Dorit ended the season in relatively precarious positions. For once. 

Most Entertaining Show

On Bravo: RHONJ. Just the right amount of family ("fam'bly"), fun and toxic rivalry (Teresa in Ep 1: “F****ng BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEEEEEP”).

On Peacock: RHUGT and Miami have been no struggle to watch. I have been rushing to watch them within 24 hours of release – a sure sign that I am invested in the season.

Show You Love to Hate

RHOBH. Still waiting for The Comeuppance of Kyle & Rinna to one day manifest itself.

 

Best New Housewife

Couldn't think of any. I guess Dr. Tiffany Moon, RHOD? If Dallas hadn’t been such a disaster, she might be leading the new season reboot.

 

Show That's Heating Up

RHOP. Did RHOP already peak in 2020 with its Gizelle Takedown reunion? Perhaps. 2021 represented a pause as Covid disrupted the flow of the show. I have hopes 2022 is going somewhere, though. If I were Candiace, I would watch my back.

 
Show That's Cooling Off 

RHOSLC.

I’m still watching. I’m still enjoying. The Bus Episodes were amongst the top-tier of RH episodes. But it is getting very scripted and alliance-based. Jen’s trial (and I imagine production is crossing its fingers for Mary and Whitney to eventually get arrested on camera) means S3 has great potential to be another rollercoaster.

 

Shows That Crashed and Burned 

When RH shows crash, they crash spectacularly. See: RHOC, RHONY and RHOD.

RHOD is already gone. RHOC is being more or less successfully rebooted (all it needs is Tamra back). The jury is still out on RHONY, and honestly, if I were on the production team, I wouldn’t know what to do. Burn everything to the ground? Try and preserve some fragile balance between what we used to love about the show and fresh new blood? All I know is that Leah cannot be anywhere near this. And possibly Ramona. And possibly Eboni. And maybe Luann. Or Sonja. Or… you see?

 

Show That's in Trouble

RHOA. I said this last year, and it still stands. Too much Bravo interference and mediocre production means we are not getting a full picture of these women -- just a surface, inauthentic one. And as with BH, glam cannot replace organic story or genuine characters.

 

Biggest Fall From Grace (Tie)

Porsha, RHOA. Bravo's Pet thought she could get her very own Don’t Be Tardy show and control the narrative when people started asking uncomfortable questions regarding her work with BLM and hooking up with an old married dude. Porsha Family Matters has ended up being the opposite of what she intended.

Leah, RHONY. Alleged Saviour of RHONY in 2020. How times change.

 

Biggest Turnaround

Gizelle, RHOP. Unbelievable but true. There’s always next season to look like a jealous fool, though.

 

Most Welcome Comeuppance

Brandi, RHOD. Finally the world (or, rather, all 7 remaining viewers of Dallas) saw what I saw -- Brandi's racist, lying ass was finally exposed, along with Stephanie, Kary and Kameron. Unfortunately, that behaviour, and Bravo sticking with her to the bitter end, completely wrecked the show. 

 

Pending Fall from Grace?

Andy Cohen?  The problem is, once he is gone, I don’t think Bravo will be championing the RHs nearly as ardently as he would.   

 

Most Annoying Ex-Housewife

 

You know it. She and her master, Kyle, are doing everything to get her boring ass back on BH. ‘Special correspondent’ on Extra co-signing Dorit’s fake robbery? Check? TWO Real Housewives podcasts? Check. Trying to bait LVP, Sutton and Garcelle on Instagram in a bid to stay relevant? Check. Bravo needs to stop trying to make the human Womp-Womp happen. I'd rather have Brandi Glanville back.

 

2022 Prediction

Without an honest-to-God RL scandal, RHOBH will crash and burn in the ratings.

I have nothing interesting to add but I just wanted to say I really enjoyed this read a lot.

 

 

4 hours ago, Cheap21 said:

 

Congratulations Porsha. You got into your FOURTH physical altercation on camera

I have long said that while I somewhat understand why the Kenya fight didn't get her fired, her kicking a woman sitting (Cynthia, that is) was absolutely unacceptable.
 

9 hours ago, Cheap21 said:

 

Congratulations Porsha. You got into your FOURTH physical altercation on camera

 

ETA: I see this was already posted

Great minds...

 

RHOM

 

 

RHOSLC

Looks like the Meredith-Mary alliance imploded Sunday night.

 

And Reality Teddi remains the weekly mouthpiece for my favorite ex-housewife Terri DiMarco. Like, WTF is this Breaking News? Are we still discussing S9 BH from 2019? Please stop, Tierra.

 

15 hours ago, Cheap21 said:

 

Congratulations Porsha. You got into your FOURTH physical altercation on camera

 

The birds coming home to roost for Porsha big-time. Every awkward question Porsha was trying to avoid on RHOA about her general messiness, Porsha's Family Matters keeps asking and asking.

Did Porsha jump up at Dennis's mom and then at Dennis? I personally think Dennis's mom should keep quiet and stay out of her son's breakup, but nevertheless. Wow.

Edited January 4, 20223 yr by Cat

The SLC reunion is going to be a knock down, drag out. 

 

And who do you think will be the safest? Jen! 😂

 

Mary, Meredith, and Lisa are gonna catch so much heat at this reunion. 

I do think it will be knockdown drag out, but I feel Jen is FAAAARRRR from safe.

 

I don't like that Twitter is in shambles with people going to bat for Mary (as they should IMHO), but I know given Mary's ability to read people like a Scripture...she expect her to read THE WHOLE BIBLE on those girls. And that I can't wait for. 

 

 

RHOA

 

Now that she got it...and confirmed it...and shaded the girls...thoughts?

 

 

On 12/31/2021 at 8:35 AM, Cat said:

So @Gray Bunny did this last year, and I am basically copy-pasting most of the categories used.

***THE BEST & WORST OF 2021***

 

Ugh, I am SO behind on this thread (Christmas vacation and now the dreaded return to work!) but I love that you resurrected The B&W for this year! I'm on board with everything you said. 

I'm still playing catch-up on this thread, but I 100% agree that RHOSLC has become SO alliance-based so quickly, and Aunt Lydia (I forget Lisa's nickname, so I'm going with a Handmaid's Tale reference, ha) is the sloppiest puppeteer master I have ever seen. It's actually hilarious how bad she is at covering her tracks. 

You know I cannot stand Terri DeMarco, and a huge EYE ROLL to all her efforts to remain relevant to get back on TV. #Gurlbye. 

It really does seem to be a big clusterfu*k on how to repair RHONY. There's many directions they could go, in terms of axing some and bringing back ex-housewives, or trying with a brand new crop. Precarious situation indeed. 

RHOBH is indeed the most entertaining but also the one you love to hate since the Coven Crowd is so despicable. Thank the Bravo heavens for Garcelle and Sutton! 

RHOC has improved from last season for sure, but the jury is still out for me. Much like RHOSLC, it started out strong, but now I'm sitting back wondering how all these newbies and fractured "friendships" (i.e. Shannon and Heather are on the same show again, so let's pretend we randomly want to repair this old friendship... right....) are going to mesh together. The plastic surgeon woman with her perpetually shirtless hubby seems to be on her own island. 

Okay, back to playing catch-up. I have thoughts about Miss Meredith over in Salt Lake City and this past week's show.... 

 

Edited January 5, 20223 yr by Gray Bunny