2 minutes ago, Cat said:

Porsha apparently has a massive fanbase on social media. They are now calling for RHOA to be completely cancelled if she goes.

In a way, she can call the shots here. Bravo have made her their special little star, and she probably feels she is bigger than the show and ready for better things. I'm not sure that confidence is entirely warranted LOL but there it is. Her departure will be a loss, though, because of her humor, and also because of this Simon Scandal which, my God, I wanted to see played out on my screen so bad! I wanted Falyn involved and I wanted Kenya to spill the dirt. Spill it!

However, ATL imo is more than just Porsha and I'm not ready for it to be cancelled! I'm not certain what the solution is given that the newbies haven't worked since Kim Fields' season (if not before). Bringing Nene back? Only if we got the old, vibrant Nene, and not Rehearsed-Reads-Bad-Hair Nene. When Nene's hair started to go to pot, so did her persona on the show.

Drew demoted? Now, I am surprised about that. I thought Bravo wuvved her ass too.

That's what we totally should have gotten. Porsha vs Falynn with everyone in the middle and Kenya all but willing to stir that pot. Then if Latoya was still around, a minifeud with her and ShebySheree. The season wrote itself.

 

As for Drew...since the tweet in question was very quickly deleted from a reliable source...I believe there is some truth to it. Unless of course something changes. There's been tea for a while there is drama going on BTS at RHOA. Sounds like chaos.

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

That's what we totally should have gotten. Porsha vs Falynn with everyone in the middle and Kenya all but willing to stir that pot. Then if Latoya was still around, a minifeud with her and ShebySheree. The season wrote itself.

 

As for Drew...since the tweet in question was very quickly deleted from a reliable source...I believe there is some truth to it. Unless of course something changes. There's been tea for a while there is drama going on BTS at RHOA. Sounds like chaos.

TBH -- enough of Kenya stirring the pot on the periphery! Porsha vs Falyn OF COURSE we would need to see, but IMO Porsha vs Kenya is also the linchpin feud that has long been denied to me. After Megaphone Wig-Snatchgate, these two have been tiptoeing around each other, and Porsha in particular has studiously avoided giving Kenya any oxygen. This past season she practically ignored her, and TBH I feel robbed lol!

If it is chaos BTS on Atlanta and Porsha is refusing to film the show, then I think Drew will be back and the show will try and make Drew vs Kenya a thing. At this point, maybe ATL should do what NYC and Dallas are doing and rest for an extra 4 months while they figure out the casting which has LONG been a hot mess! (And also bring back Carlos King for some cohesion and control BTS. Also, Carlos could always sweet-talk Porsha into doing what he wanted. He was her Protector!).

Porsha and Carlos, before she got deified:

9 minutes ago, Cat said:

TBH -- enough of Kenya stirring the pot on the periphery! Porsha vs Falyn OF COURSE we would need to see, but IMO Porsha vs Kenya is also the linchpin feud that has long been denied to me. After Megaphone Wig-Snatchgate, these two have been tiptoeing around each other, and Porsha in particular has studiously avoided giving Kenya any oxygen. This past season she practically ignored her, and TBH I feel robbed lol!

If it is chaos BTS on Atlanta and Porsha is refusing to film the show, then I think Drew will be back and the show will try and make Drew vs Kenya a thing. At this point, maybe ATL should do what NYC and Dallas are doing and rest for an extra 4 months while they figure out the casting which has LONG been a hot mess! (And also bring back Carlos King for some cohesion and control BTS. Also, Carlos could always sweet-talk Porsha into doing what he wanted. He was her Protector!).

Porsha and Carlos, before she got deified:

Hmmmm I'm not sure if I want Kenya on the warpath again a la Season 12. Maybe if she is more like Team Pretty Kenya from Season 7 when it comes to Porsha. Because right now, I think they completely exhausted their feud just like Nene and Kenya's got exhausted during Snakegate in Season 12. 

 

Don't get me started on DALLAS if those rumors about their casting are true. Since I've heard two different things. One I liked. The other...not so much.

 

Since they decided to bring some production over from POTOMAC, I am definitely hopeful RHOA next season will have some potential with great followthrough given how good POTOMAC has been up to now. And we know those POTOMAC producers know how to be shady AND tell a coherent storyline.

 

Hehe at the gifs. 

 

2 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Hmmmm I'm not sure if I want Kenya on the warpath again a la Season 12. Maybe if she is more like Team Pretty Kenya from Season 7 when it comes to Porsha. Because right now, I think they completely exhausted their feud just like Nene and Kenya's got exhausted during Snakegate in Season 12. 

 

Don't get me started on DALLAS if those rumors about their casting are true. Since I've heard two different things. One I liked. The other...not so much.

 

Since they decided to bring some production over from POTOMAC, I am definitely hopeful RHOA next season will have some potential with great followthrough given how good POTOMAC has been up to now. And we know those POTOMAC producers know how to be shady AND tell a coherent storyline.

 

Hehe at the gifs. 

 

Which season was Season 12? Shamari Season?

Season 7 is my gold standard! (Also S8 was brilliant -- Kim Fields' season).

15 hours ago, Faulkner said:

That’s a huge live rating for Potomac, all things considered. It’s eclipsing a lot of the other more established franchises. Now *that’s* a cast with chemistry. Gizelle vs. Karen will never get old.

Bershan’s behavior felt phony and production-provoked to me. We all know production interferes, but if you can’t sell the illusion, don’t bother. And if the show feels the need to force drama like that, they’ve already admitted defeat.

Leah should never have been on this show. Even Aviva Drescher, who I came to despise, was a much better fit. Hell, Kelly Bensimon, all is forgiven. 

 

Yes to all.

Re: Bershan's behavior. It felt very producer-coaxed.  "You gotta get in there and mix it up!"  Her remarks were getting a little too rude (and coincidentally, the reactions were also over-the-top, i.e. Luann's "then you should just leave."), and it was funny how no one had her back, not even Ramona who felt compelled to stick by her side because she brought her into the group (quote, un quote). 

Leah turning Eboni's grandmother's death into a moment of whiny crying was cringe. Shoot, I'd welcome Aviva or Crazy Kelly back at this point, too. Even Cindy Barshop and all her teeth would be better. Lordy, how desperate we've become to jolt some life into RHONY.  Still holding out for a Jill Zarin full-time return. 

What sucks about this current cast is that it doesn't feel organic at. all.  And that was always NYC's strongest selling point (other than the Season 5 reboot, and the awkward Season 6 that followed).  NYC never felt like a bunch of random women cast to be on the same show and forced to hang out with one another. But now? Totally. And it's not gelling. 

YAY to Potomac's premiere live ratings! Well-deserved. 

 

Edited July 15, 20214 yr by Gray Bunny

1 hour ago, Cat said:

Which season was Season 12? Shamari Season?

Season 7 is my gold standard! (Also S8 was brilliant -- Kim Fields' season).

Kenya and Shamari werent on the same season. Season 12 was when Kenya returned and her story featured her as a mother and marriage to Marc in addition to feud with NeNe

I actually watched Potomac (streaming with Fubo now and it came up as a suggestion).  

 

Way toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much Wendy and I felt Karen was uncharacteristically vicious.  Anyone calling Jiz out for the fake trash bag she is will always be wonderful, but some of Karen's words didn't seem like they would be coming out of her mouth..  Sophisticated women don't talk like that.  

Despite rumors that Tamra would only be back at the end of the season, she just confirmed she’s back filming! It’s week one so it’s very possible she’ll be a HW if she likely is going to film the entire season. 
 

 

2 hours ago, Cheap21 said:

Kenya and Shamari werent on the same season. Season 12 was when Kenya returned and her story featured her as a mother and marriage to Marc in addition to feud with NeNe

Thanks for clarifying. The Eva seasons kind of ran together for me there!

9 minutes ago, Chris B said:

Despite rumors that Tamra would only be back at the end of the season, she just confirmed she’s back filming! It’s week one so it’s very possible she’ll be a HW if she likely is going to film the entire season. 

 

Omg Praise Jesus 🙌 Heather works better in a team with Tamra.

Now we know why Shannon wasn't dropped...Tamra and Shannon have unfinished business.

I still think it's hilarious that Shannon of all people threw Tamra under the bus..who knew she had it in her lol

4 hours ago, Gray Bunny said:

What sucks about this current cast is that it doesn't feel organic at. all.  And that was always NYC's strongest selling point (other than the Season 5 reboot, and the awkward Season 6 that followed).  NYC never felt like a bunch of random women cast to be on the same show and forced to hang out with one another. But now? Totally. And it's not gelling.

This. So so so much.
Especially because when there is no existing subtext, then they feel the need to INVENT feuds and that's how we end up with whatever Leah did with Heather and Eboni not letting go of something that should have been one episode at most (or Sutton/Crystal over at BH) and now Bershan being a tad more elephant-in-the-porcelain-store that is necessary.
Which brings me to agreeing strongly with your other point.

4 hours ago, Gray Bunny said:

Re: Bershan's behavior. It felt very producer-coaxed. 

It was pretty obvious in Eboni's case but now that the same thing is happening with Bershan, I am actually starting to go back and wonder if Leah's questionable choices have not been, too, due to producer intervention.  
Not that Leah is not capable of being tedious on her own, but in hindsight most of what we are seeing this season seems to be housewives trying to make things happen, which is behavior producers worried about a small cast and no obvious storylines (since none of them have anything specific going on in their own lives unlike in past seasons) might try to encourage.

This is going to be a potentially unpopular suggestion but maybe they should consider not sticking to a strict filming schedule. Atlanta should have resumed filming RIGHT when the Porscha thing came out in public. And inversely if nothing of interest was happening to the NY housewives it was fine waiting an extra six months to film.

 

Sorry, but Bershan has got to go. She pissed me TF off on Tuesday nights episode. And she can take her token white girlfriend Ramona with her, and then Luann can be demoted to a "friend of" for Sonja.

2 hours ago, Chris B said:

Despite rumors that Tamra would only be back at the end of the season, she just confirmed she’s back filming! It’s week one so it’s very possible she’ll be a HW if she likely is going to film the entire season. 
 

 

THIS NEEDED TO HAPPEN! #RHOC is going to POP AWF!

POTOMAC

Very strong start and the live ratings speak to it. This franchise has come into its own.

I found it laughable that Gizelle continues to act like her relationshit with Jamal was anything other than the lie that it is. She was wholly and totally unmasked at the reunion and her trying to play it off as some Covid long distance romance gone awry? No. 

I don't really see the point of Robyn anymore. Her narrative hasn't changed since the first season. 

Ashley seems like the most natural, easygoing mother, it's a great look on her.

Wendy openly admitted on Twitter to having had her ass done in addition to her breasts, and says she said so during the dinner, so it seems like production edited around it to try and make her look stupid. 

Karen seems very tired of Gizelle and I agree with @ChitHappens that some of what she said was beneath her. However, she was not, for one second, going to let Gizelle steamroll her. 

NYC

The producers are really showing their asses with this season and it's not a good look.

Bershan and Eboni both appear to be taking cues from producers and it's ruining both of them. 

I have loved Sonja this season and I think she was drunk and bewildered at Bershan coming for her. It made no sense at all given that she and Bershan had been laughing all day long and even walked arm in arm after the dinner at the Italian restaurant while Ramona looked for her scarf. I *loved* the scene about Ramona's inability to control her bowels. Sonja was laughing so hard and when she flipped the bottom of her boot to the camera, you just had to know the cameraman was dying of laughter. 

Luann is clearly wary of what she's seeing production do. Today she posted on her Instagram a throwback shot of the first season of RHONY and captioned it "OGs are hard to come by..."

The Daily Mail article rings the most true. This season has been awful, producers know it, the dismal ratings speak for themselves and in my view it's all productions fault. People want escapism, they do not watch these shows to have an afterschool special every single episode, week after week. If they want to fix this show it's simple: Fire Leah, probably fire Eboni, rehire Dorinda, if they can get Bethenny pay her whatever it takes, and bring on a new person with actual ties to the cast.

RHONY has always had an edge because its cast actually knew each other and the organic relationships spoke for themselves. What we are seeing now is inauthentic producer driven garbage at its worst. 

BH

I really enjoyed this week's episode as Erotica Lame goes for her Oscar. Camille Donatacci Grammar Meyer posted a delicious little something on her social media where she said that when they went swimming in the Caribbean that EJ's mascara stayed put...I had to ask myself the same question: she didn't wear waterproof? This is performance art for her. She is going for broke with her wronged woman / martyr act. 

Kathy continues to be this kooky presence that I love to watch. She makes Kyle look good and I suspect Kyle knows this.

Rinna has been the best version of Rinna in many seasons and I too am ashamed to admit I knew several of those designer dresses from her soap days. 

It amazes me how many times the Coven says things like "innocent till proven guilty" and "we need to believe her!" when they tortured LVP and called her a liar left, right, and centre, despite her brother dying by suicide during that period of time. They just plain hated her. 

I have to wonder when the editing might turn. I saw glimmers of it with Garcelle...time will tell. 

6 hours ago, Cat said:

Which season was Season 12? Shamari Season?

Season 7 is my gold standard! (Also S8 was brilliant -- Kim Fields' season).

Cheap said it all, but yeah...Kenya came back like a boss in Season 12, but it wasn't long before her marriage crack started to show and she was bitter AF. Snakegate didn't help.

 

Ahhhh Season 7...Team Pretty vs Team Beasts. Good times!!!

 

3 hours ago, Chris B said:

Despite rumors that Tamra would only be back at the end of the season, she just confirmed she’s back filming! It’s week one so it’s very possible she’ll be a HW if she likely is going to film the entire season. 
 

 

 

1 hour ago, Soaplovers said:

Now we know why Shannon wasn't dropped...Tamra and Shannon have unfinished business.

I still think it's hilarious that Shannon of all people threw Tamra under the bus..who knew she had it in her lol

OOooooo...things are about to get good....

11 minutes ago, DaytimeFan said:

POTOMAC

Very strong start and the live ratings speak to it. This franchise has come into its own.

I found it laughable that Gizelle continues to act like her relationshit with Jamal was anything other than the lie that it is. She was wholly and totally unmasked at the reunion and her trying to play it off as some Covid long distance romance gone awry? No. 

I don't really see the point of Robyn anymore. Her narrative hasn't changed since the first season. 

Ashley seems like the most natural, easygoing mother, it's a great look on her.

Wendy openly admitted on Twitter to having had her ass done in addition to her breasts, and says she said so during the dinner, so it seems like production edited around it to try and make her look stupid. 

Karen seems very tired of Gizelle and I agree with @ChitHappens that some of what she said was beneath her. However, she was not, for one second, going to let Gizelle steamroll her. 

NYC

The producers are really showing their asses with this season and it's not a good look.

Bershan and Eboni both appear to be taking cues from producers and it's ruining both of them. 

I have loved Sonja this season and I think she was drunk and bewildered at Bershan coming for her. It made no sense at all given that she and Bershan had been laughing all day long and even walked arm in arm after the dinner at the Italian restaurant while Ramona looked for her scarf. I *loved* the scene about Ramona's inability to control her bowels. Sonja was laughing so hard and when she flipped the bottom of her boot to the camera, you just had to know the cameraman was dying of laughter. 

Luann is clearly wary of what she's seeing production do. Today she posted on her Instagram a throwback shot of the first season of RHONY and captioned it "OGs are hard to come by..."

The Daily Mail article rings the most true. This season has been awful, producers know it, the dismal ratings speak for themselves and in my view it's all productions fault. People want escapism, they do not watch these shows to have an afterschool special every single episode, week after week. If they want to fix this show it's simple: Fire Leah, probably fire Eboni, rehire Dorinda, if they can get Bethenny pay her whatever it takes, and bring on a new person with actual ties to the cast.

RHONY has always had an edge because its cast actually knew each other and the organic relationships spoke for themselves. What we are seeing now is inauthentic producer driven garbage at its worst. 

BH

I really enjoyed this week's episode as Erotica Lame goes for her Oscar. Camille Donatacci Grammar Meyer posted a delicious little something on her social media where she said that when they went swimming in the Caribbean that EJ's mascara stayed put...I had to ask myself the same question: she didn't wear waterproof? This is performance art for her. She is going for broke with her wronged woman / martyr act. 

Kathy continues to be this kooky presence that I love to watch. She makes Kyle look good and I suspect Kyle knows this.

Rinna has been the best version of Rinna in many seasons and I too am ashamed to admit I knew several of those designer dresses from her soap days. 

It amazes me how many times the Coven says things like "innocent till proven guilty" and "we need to believe her!" when they tortured LVP and called her a liar left, right, and centre, despite her brother dying by suicide during that period of time. They just plain hated her. 

I have to wonder when the editing might turn. I saw glimmers of it with Garcelle...time will tell. 

Lol at Camille. I saw that, too and giggled so hard. But I stand by what I said after a second watch. Erika felt her most real in her very last confessional in the episode. You know I do not even like her and I feel for the most part she is 'acting' but that last scene actually felt raw to me...which honestly surprised me. 

 

And I lmfao at Rinna and her dresses. I felt sooooooooo old recognizing so many of her dresses. 

 

I'm curious. What did you see? Cuz other than this one moment when she was talking to Kyle, I think I might have missed it.

NJ

 

OH...MY....GOD!!!! WHAT...IN...THE...WORLD...?