8 minutes ago, Franko said:

@beebs said it best. I'd also like to point out that an unsolicited bibliography? Really?

And she wonders why she's being "chewed out". 

@Donna B If you can't figure out at this point why people are "chewing you out more than neccessary", then maybe consider taking on board the reasons we have told you why we're annoyed with you, instead of thumbing your nose at us, and immediately repeating the same behaviours that caused us to "chew you out" to begin with.

Grow up.

 

10 minutes ago, beebs said:

Learn to accept criticism graciously, instead of consistently getting defensive every time someone calls you out. It astounds me someone comes into a community, angers a good chunk of the active members, then gets angry that people aren't nice to them. 

I think I've accepted plenty of criticism with grace. And, I don't think I've been defensive. But, from the get-go people have been "not nice" to me.

1 minute ago, Donna B said:

I think I've accepted plenty of criticism with grace. And, I don't think I've been defensive. But, from the get-go people have been "not nice" to me.

And promptly ignored it by returning to the exact same behaviours.

I'm done trying to have sense into you. If you can't figure out why people haven't been welcoming at this rate, then you're beyond help, because we have done NOTHING but explain it to you. Over and over again. Take some responsibility for your own actions.

2 minutes ago, beebs said:

And she wonders why she's being "chewed out". 

@Donna B If you can't figure out at this point why people are "chewing you out more than neccessary", then maybe consider taking on board the reasons we have told you why we're annoyed with you, instead of thumbing your nose at us, and immediately repeating the same behaviours that caused us to "chew you out" to begin with.

Grow up.

 

@beebs I am grown up. But, hey, I don't really want to sling empty words at you & I don't want to have them slung back at me. This is just pointless and frankly sad.

2 minutes ago, Donna B said:

@beebs I am grown up. But, hey, I don't really want to sling empty words at you & I don't want to have them slung back at me. This is just pointless and frankly sad.

You're right. Do better.

Getting back to GL: Who are some of the characters you think were underappreciated by the writers and/or producers--characters who should have stayed around longer or been given meatier storylines.

25 minutes ago, chrisml said:

Getting back to GL: Who are some of the characters you think were underappreciated by the writers and/or producers--characters who should have stayed around longer or been given meatier storylines.

I wish they had kept Holly on full time forever. How about you, @chrisml? Who did you want kept on?

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29 minutes ago, beebs said:

And promptly ignored it by returning to the exact same behaviours.

I'm done trying to have sense into you. If you can't figure out why people haven't been welcoming at this rate, then you're beyond help, because we have done NOTHING but explain it to you. Over and over again. Take some responsibility for your own actions.

Okay @beebs and @Vee you're not only not getting through to me, you're just annoying me. How about we just give each other passage?

 

On 10/16/2019 at 4:50 PM, katie_9918 said:

I still wish Marcy Walker hadn’t been so misused as Tangier’s Hill. Under better circumstances I think she could have done well. She had a good vibe with the rest of the cast.

 

On 10/17/2019 at 7:26 PM, katie_9918 said:

I might be outing myself as an idiot, but for all I’ve privately bemoaned GL utterly wasting Marcy Walker, I never really thought about who else she could have portrayed. 

 

I like Khan’s idea, or if they wanted to connect her to Roger, maybe she could have been a foster child or adopted child that Adam and Sara would have had and then come to Springfield because she found out and then was curious about the biological child Adam never talked about.

 

Marcy Walker arrives in November 1993, correct? So the YT channel that has Fall 1993 should have her episodes soon.

 

It was posted in the "They Almost Became" thread that Marcy Walker turned down B&B and joined GL instead, but I have no idea how she would've fit on B&B in 1993 as their cast then was quite full of females around her age.

 

Which 1993 Friend of Jill incident is the most egregious, Justin Deas, Marj Dusay, or Marcy Walker?

I'm gonna rule out Marcy just because it was the shortest run. Justin and Marj's performances seem to have had a lot of detractors over the years. I've got nothing against her personally, but let's go with Marj just because she was so, so miscast.

6 minutes ago, Franko said:

I'm gonna rule out Marcy just because it was the shortest run. Justin and Marj's performances seem to have had a lot of detractors over the years. I've got nothing against her personally, but let's go with Marj just because she was so, so miscast.

Well, were you for Joan Collins during that 6 month period? I was completely leery of her and then it turned out she was one of daytime's hardest workers who turned in a remarkable performance.

23 minutes ago, Franko said:

I'm gonna rule out Marcy just because it was the shortest run. Justin and Marj's performances seem to have had a lot of detractors over the years. I've got nothing against her personally, but let's go with Marj just because she was so, so miscast.

 

I think in terms of look and delivery and watching early Marj as Alex, I can see why they cast her. It's unfortunate that Alex became a cartoon and Marj lost her way in the role.

 

Justin Deas was vastly over used and so beyond grating. He'd be my pick. lol. I'd have rather seen him dumped in the water and forgotten about instead of poor Nadine.

 

I thought Marcy Walker fit in well with the cast but the character just ultimately didn't seem work. I need to see more of her time on the show; the bits I've seen I can see why she didn't catch on but there was a lot of missed opportunity and potential, I think. I was glad Marcy went back to AMC.

 

Not a friend of Jill thing, just something I've thought about recently because I'm watching old episodes on Youtube, but I know folks often didn't like Ron Raines as Alan but, like Marj as Alex, I can see why the would have cast him. His voice sounds similar to the other two Alan's (Bernau and Pilon). The problem was with both Pilon and Raines, they weren't bad, they just weren't Bernau, which I completely understand. But I didn't mind Raines or what I've seen of Pilon. And also with Raines Alan, they often just made him a scapegoat and ultimately a bellowing cartoon much like Alex. It was a shame. They weren't awful recasts, they just weren't Bernau and McKinsey, who were just simply amazing, and couldn't be topped, in the roles.

Edited October 19, 20196 yr by KMan101

Marcy and JFP's relationship apparently went sour over how things turned out. In the late 90's there were rumblings that JFP would join AMC and Marcy was asked about it, and she seemed to give a timid response. Of course, JFP ended up at OLTL instead. 

 

16 minutes ago, Donna B said:

Well, were you for Joan Collins during that 6 month period? I was completely leery of her and then it turned out she was one of daytime's hardest workers who turned in a remarkable performance.

 

Beverlee McKinsey's shoes are just too hard to fill. They did write Joan's Alex closer to character though. 

Edited October 19, 20196 yr by BetterForgotten

1 minute ago, BetterForgotten said:

Marcy and JFP's relationship apparently went sour over how things turned out. In the late 90's there were rumblings that JFP would join AMC and Marcy was asked about it, and she seemed to give a timid response. Of course, JFP ended up on OLTL instead. 

Too bad for JFP if Marcy didn't lean in to her! JFP had plenty of Rappaports to do for.

 

1 minute ago, BetterForgotten said:

 

 

Beverlee McKinsey's shoes are just too hard to fill. They did write Joan's Alex closer to character though. 

Yes, Bev's shoes are really hard to fill! Joan got good writing.

52 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

Not a friend of Jill thing, just something I've thought about recently because I'm watching old episodes on Youtube, but I know folks often didn't like Ron Raines as Alan but, like Marj as Alex, I can see why the would have cast him. His voice sounds similar to the other two Alan's (Bernau and Pilon). The problem was with both Pilon and Raines, they weren't bad, they just weren't Bernau, which I completely understand. But I didn't mind Raines or what I've seen of Pilon. And also with Raines Alan, they often just made him a scapegoat and ultimately a bellowing cartoon much like Alex. It was a shame. They weren't awful recasts, they just weren't Bernau and McKinsey, who were just simply amazing, and couldn't be topped, in the roles.

 

I'm surprised Alan wasn't recast with a Friend of Jill. I figured a pivotal role would've gone to a well-known soap name. Wasn't Ron Raines a musical theater actor before GL?