I'd make him the real Phillip. Explaining how he faked his death would be difficult, but not as difficult as explaining how Jill gave birth to twins and didn't know it.

So, our options are A) Phillip fakes his death and finds a body that looks just like him to replace it with or B ) Jill gave birth to twins.

It's starting to sound more and more like it

I don't think Y&R has become like DAYS, but I do think this team needs to get back to simple, quiet, character-driven drama (w/ sexual entanglements you can sink your teeth into, of course, lol).

I don't think Y&R has become like DAYS, but I do think this team needs to get back to simple, quiet, character-driven drama (w/ sexual entanglements you can sink your teeth into, of course, lol).

Yes, of course, it was hyperbole, but I do agree that we need exactly what you said.

I can't remember how many times Y&R has ever brought back someone we were supposed to believe was dead. We knew all along that Sheila and Victor weren't dead when the others thought they were dead. I also wouldn't could Nick, as that was up in the air.

So, our options are A) Phillip fakes his death and finds a body that looks just like him to replace it with or B ) Jill gave birth to twins.

Well, I'd choose; unfortunately, I'm busy right now trying to pull myself out of this plot-hole. Let me tell you, it's a mother!

I can't remember how many times Y&R has ever brought back someone we were supposed to believe was dead. We knew all along that Sheila and Victor weren't dead when the others thought they were dead. I also wouldn't could Nick, as that was up in the air.

The difference is that the characters thought they were dead, but the audience was privy to exactly the opposite. There was no actual death, just a supposed one. I don't mind those returns at all--but when we see someone die (which is still disputable in this case), then we have a problem and credibility starts being pushed.

Well, I'd choose; unfortunately, I'm busy right now trying to pull myself out of this plot-hole. Let me tell you, it's a mother!

Exactly. Either choice is just...

Edited May 16, 200916 yr by YRBB

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd almost swear Phillip's death happened off-screen. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, SOD complained several years ago how this marred what was otherwise a touching and affecting story.

Edited May 16, 200916 yr by Khan

So how is this going to work? Phillip III (Bierdz) died when he was 18, so if that kept it in real time, he's 40. When Cane arrived they established that he was 30 or 31 (using the real 1976 birthdate). Also, how would Phillip III known about Kay's baby switch? Kay was having those dreams and then remembered the truth. This makes no sense. I forget did Jill and Cane have a DNA test (not that it matters after the Kay/Jill double test undone by the three test they did this year). This could end up being a total mess.

Your points are stunning. The baby-switch storyline really makes this whole thing dicey. Did Kay not switch the babies and dream it (oh dear!). I agree with whomever said it would be easy to expose Cane as a fraud but very hard to resurrect him. Yet i also agree that if TB is returning, then he should play P3. Gosh - I guess i owe Jillian Bowean apology - she said something roof-ripping would happen May sweeps and homegirl was not lying.

Hey, what about Paul's father, Carl? Granted, he didn't so much "die" as stop appearing; nonetheless, Mary and Paul were shocked when "Jim" re-entered their lives.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd almost swear Phillip's death happened off-screen. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, SOD complained several years ago how this marred what was otherwise a touching and affecting story.

OK, I guess it makes it better if we didn't actually see him die... but that still leaves the fact that they need to explain how come they thought he was dead anyway!

Hey, what about Paul's father, Carl? Granted, he didn't so much "die" as stop appearing; nonetheless, Mary and Paul were shocked when "Jim" re-entered their lives.

Didn't he explain he was in an off-screen accident, was thrown off the car or something and woke up with no memories?

But Phillip probably died in the hospital. Otherwise, they would have mentioned that they never found a body or something... Unless naughty William J. Bell was keeping his options open, just in case he wanted to bring Phillip back...

Then, coming out of the closet has done little to improve Phillip's choice of relationships (sorry, Nina).

Did Kay not switch the babies and dream it (oh dear!).

Honestly? I'd go with that. That whole "storyline" made even less sense than Kay-is-Jill's-mother. Kay was just drunk and hallucinating? Fine with me. It's not like I ever trusted that phony, Sylvia Browne, on "Montel" anyway.

I'd make him the real Phillip. Explaining how he faked his death would be difficult, but not as difficult as explaining how Jill gave birth to twins and didn't know it.

Not unless Cane was brainwashed into thinking he was PC3.

The thing about Days that I always had to laugh at. It was like this ongoing joke kind of like they never took themselves too seriously. Anyway I love this stuff done by a good and balanced writer on classic Days but on Y&R I don't know, I just don't know.

As a viewer I'll watch it unfold with my fingers crossed that I don't feel compelled to change the channel. I know everyone else is excited fortunately or me I came after Phillip therefore I only caught him in flashbacks, old articles and youtube so I don't have much vested so I am looking at this beyond all euphoric reminisces.

Edited May 16, 200916 yr by classicmoment

It was last used last summer for the gala where Sabrina and David were killed.

Thanks. I miss the private dining room scenes. I always thought that was so elegant when I was a kid. In retrospect, I suppose it saved the cost of extras.

I don't think Y&R has become like DAYS, but I do think this team needs to get back to simple, quiet, character-driven drama (w/ sexual entanglements you can sink your teeth into, of course, lol).

Yeah, this show needs more passion. Sharon and her many men really doesn't do it for me, since she's losing her mind.

Edited May 16, 200916 yr by Juliajms