^^ LOL, very true. I just remember the salt-and-pepper hair and the long, feather earring the Ronnequin wore once which screamed "Keef" to me. But now that you mention it... Love in an Elevator seems uncannily like it could be Ridge's Theme Song.

Ronn seems very comfortable with his feminine side, I think. As you say, he is a man's man with all the leg's standing apart business but his hair, face, nose and mouth has always had a certain feminine grace to it. Plus he is a rocker from the 70s. They were all rocking the Bowie eyeshadow and unisex mulletes back then.

Also, Ronn does NOT age. LOL, I know that Dr. Botox may have something to do with that. But I'm also wondering if Moss has Native American genes, too, because those genes don't crack until late.

And, for good measure, the namesake of this thread:

Well, he seems to have kind of changed a bit...

Those pictures of Ron are killer. Love. Them.

I think that even with this WTF scarves that Ridge is very hetero in a butch way. That might be because he can't act so even when he tries to cry, it seems restrained. Actually now I think about it, Ronn is like Prince in that way. They are both very comfortable in their sexuality so they wear what they want and don't give a flying flip what any thinks. Even in his high heels and purple suits, I have never thought for a second that Prince was gay.

I don't know Trachta's sexuality, but I never liked his Thorne even though he was a decent actor. Thorne did come off effeminate at times. I would be surprised if that is why he was fired.

And yet Jeff was the only Thorne who had a longterm successful romance. Winsor could have had one with Brooke, or with Darla, but not with the ADD-addled B&B of the past 10 years.

I thought Jeff's Thorne and Bobbie's Macy were a very good couple. Not in heat, but in a sweeter chemistry.

The first Thorne I don't remember, although he looks very handsome.

Tptb struck GOLD with Thorne and Brooke. Windsor and Katherine oozed chemistry and I never thought they would be able to sell it but they did. I was on the edge of my seat back then with them trying to keep it from everyone, especially Stephanie since they repeated ad nauseam she wouldn't be able to handle it. And they gave us the infamous scene with Stephanie going after Brooke with a knife in Big Bear

Too bad they went back to the dull as dirt Bridge pairing since it was stellar acting all around.

Tptb struck GOLD with Thorne and Brooke. Windsor and Katherine oozed chemistry and I never thought they would be able to sell it but they did. I was on the edge of my seat back then with them trying to keep it from everyone, especially Stephanie since they repeated ad nauseam she wouldn't be able to handle it. And they gave us the infamous scene with Stephanie going after Brooke with a knife in Big Bear

Too bad they went back to the dull as dirt Bridge pairing since it was stellar acting all around.

See...I didn't see that...not ever...for a second.

I remember that out-of-the-blue scene in Brooke's office, where she was talking to Deacon (?) about finding a soul mate. And Thorne suddenly realized it was not him. And the marriage was over. Presto.

Obviously, there was the Venetian scam (where Brooke and Ridge pretended to have an affair...I forget why), but that breakup was a whimper, not a bang.

But the thing is, the Brooke-Thorne thing was over so suddenly, and I was not remotely upset.

But Winsor has never, ever, for a second, for an instant, for a nanosecond seemed appealing or entertaining to me. So that probably colors my judgement.

I recently watched the first episode, with Clayton Norcross as Thorne, and MY GOD he was awful! Trachta was a little better, but Harmon is easily the best of the three.

Winsor is my choice for Thorne, I agree with Money, Brad & Co. struck gold with Thorne and Brooke, that should be revisited!

I recently watched the first episode, with Clayton Norcross as Thorne, and MY GOD he was awful!

It's the first Thorne who never seemed to fit. The first guy (Clayton Norcross) made me think RM's Ridge could snap him like a twig.

Clayton Norcross was a pretty bad actor. His Thorne always seemed to be on edge and had pent up anger that was ready to explode. I remember reading on some boards years ago that Clayton was allegedly fired for having a substance abuse problem, hence the sudden recast right in the middle of the storyline where Thorne remembered shooting Ridge the year before.

I thought Jeff's Thorne and Bobbie's Macy were a very good couple. Not in heat, but in a sweeter chemistry.

As for Trachta, I heard an unkind rumor that said that Hunter Tylo lobbied to get him off the show as soon as she heard about Bell's plans to pair Taylor with Thorne. Apparently Trachta had sided with Kimberlin Brown when the Brown/Tylo friendship broke down and supported Michael Tylo when their marriage went south. But Sheilaforever's explanation sounds more plausible.

Trachta was FIRED because Brad Bell really liked Winsor Harmon and wanted to have him on B&B.

His main idea was to put a break on Macy/Thorne and to start Taylor/Thorne which proved to be a total bust.

I liked Jeff Trachta as Thorne and his pairing with Macy. I remember the soap magazines reporting that Jeff originally auditioned for Jack Abbott and lost to Peter Bergman because Bill and Lee Bell thought he was too young to play Jack (there had to have been a good decade age difference between Jeff and the late Terry Lester), but they liked him so he was cast as Thorne. I also read the rumor that Hunter Tylo was allegedly responsible for his firing. I could be wrong here, but I have a hunch that Brad Bell didn't think Jeff was handsome enough to be paired with Hunter Tylo.

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I guess, as the youtube below suggests (and the paucity of imdb.com entries), Clayton is mostly earning his coin these days as a mature male model. He looks pretty good, still. The youtube actually seems to contain his personal email, and home/work/cell phone numbers...so I guess he is very open to being employed

Didn't he release an album with Bobbie Eakes or something? I know they're still very close friends.

Co-sign on the Brooke & Thorne fandom here. I thought they were DYNAMITE together. The show really seemed to be going somewhere when they became a couple... like it was progressing and not endlessly treading water.

I also liked it when Thorne kissed Taylor at the Forrester pool for the first time after Ridge spent the whole dinner ignoring her. But yeah, B&T.... oh, what could have been!

I guess, as the youtube below suggests (and the paucity of imdb.com entries), Clayton is mostly earning his coin these days as a mature male model. He looks pretty good, still. The youtube actually seems to contain his personal email, and home/work/cell phone numbers...so I guess he is very open to being employed

Clayton Norcross is hotter than he was during the B&B days. He was always my favorite Thorne followed by Winsor. I never like Trachta in the role. He just didnt seem to fit the Thorne mold. It sure would be nice to see Clayton back on daytime.

I always had a problem with Trachta's mullet, but that's just me getting superficial.

For a few months I couldn't get past Winsor's Texas accent but now I just don't even hear it anymore. Probably because he's not on all that much. But at least he doesn't have a mullet!

Tptb struck GOLD with Thorne and Brooke. Windsor and Katherine oozed chemistry and I never thought they would be able to sell it but they did. I was on the edge of my seat back then with them trying to keep it from everyone, especially Stephanie since they repeated ad nauseam she wouldn't be able to handle it. And they gave us the infamous scene with Stephanie going after Brooke with a knife in Big Bear

Too bad they went back to the dull as dirt Bridge pairing since it was stellar acting all around.

I SO agree. That whole Brooke/Thorne storyline was must see TV from start to finish. Loved. Them.

See...I didn't see that...not ever...for a second.

I remember that out-of-the-blue scene in Brooke's office, where she was talking to Deacon (?) about finding a soul mate. And Thorne suddenly realized it was not him. And the marriage was over. Presto.

Obviously, there was the Venetian scam (where Brooke and Ridge pretended to have an affair...I forget why), but that breakup was a whimper, not a bang.

But the thing is, the Brooke-Thorne thing was over so suddenly, and I was not remotely upset.

But Winsor has never, ever, for a second, for an instant, for a nanosecond seemed appealing or entertaining to me. So that probably colors my judgement.

They did abandon the pairing rather suddenly, but I was more than remotely upset. B/T are easily my favorite B&B couple of all time. TPTB really missed the boat on that one.

Winsor is my choice for Thorne, I agree with Money, Brad & Co. struck gold with Thorne and Brooke, that should be revisited!

I agree. Thorne & Brooke were made for each other, and Winsor & KKL have some of the most explosive chemistry I've seen since A & Marcy.

Co-sign on the Brooke & Thorne fandom here. I thought they were DYNAMITE together. The show really seemed to be going somewhere when they became a couple... like it was progressing and not endlessly treading water.

I also liked it when Thorne kissed Taylor at the Forrester pool for the first time after Ridge spent the whole dinner ignoring her. But yeah, B&T.... oh, what could have been!

I you. The show was on fire during the Brooke/Thorne years, as I previously stated.

As for Jeff Trachta, sorry, I never cared for his Thorne- dull as dishwater. The day Winsor took over is the day Thorne became interesting to me.

But Winsor has never, ever, for a second, for an instant, for a nanosecond seemed appealing or entertaining to me. So that probably colors my judgement.

Really? Loved, loved, loved the whole Thorne ripping apart the shipping office and leaving the Forresters behind. Good stuff.

Nobody does pissy, out of control, second-rate son like Winsor Harmon.

Loved the substance abuse stuff too. Especially when he did that whole kiss on the cheek to the Euro fashion designer. I know it was merely a greeting, but it's the closest B&B will ever come to there being a "gay/bi/confused" Forrester. And Winsor rocked that [!@#$%^&*], too.

But of course, with everything Brad does, the story was dropped midstream. I'd love for him to start popping pills and drinking excessively again, or even worse, start using coke or meth.

Really? Loved, loved, loved the whole Thorne ripping apart the shipping office and leaving the Forresters behind. Good stuff.

Nobody does pissy, out of control, second-rate son like Winsor Harmon.

Loved the substance abuse stuff too. Especially when he did that whole kiss on the cheek to the Euro fashion designer. I know it was merely a greeting, but it's the closest B&B will ever come to there being a "gay/bi/confused" Forrester. And Winsor rocked that [!@#$%^&*], too.

But of course, with everything Brad does, the story was dropped midstream. I'd love for him to start popping pills and drinking excessively again, or even worse, start using coke or meth.

See, I thought the office-ripping was over the top...so I couldn't buy what should have been a remarkable expression of Thorne's resentment at always being the less favored son.

And the substance abuse? Blink and you missed it.