Dude, play nice.

I dont play nice. I've got a 20 percent warning under my name. You just can't see it.

I dont play nice. I've got a 20 percent warning under my name. You just can't see it.

:lol:

Well done, my friend! Well done!

Having read one of his posted breakdowns... eh. He's probably only there because he and Hogan get along.

Back on point, I'm still lost when it comes to this overwhelming Casiello Lovefest.

Ditto to both of your posts. I totally agree with ya. Just booooooo...to him joining Y&R again. I hope he doesn't ruin the show. It is so good right now.

Edited January 23, 200916 yr by Soapsuds

I hope he doesn't ruin the show. It is so good right now.

He's just a breakdown writer, he doesn't dictate storyline.

BTW, Tom's recent blog is about rejoining Y&R.

http://casiello.blogspot.com/

He's just a breakdown writer, he doesn't dictate storyline.

BTW, Tom's recent blog is about rejoining Y&R.

http://casiello.blogspot.com/

Haha typical......

Frankly, I'm not sure how any soap viewer can say they're a "fan" of most breakdown or script writers, considering they don't know how much of what was written was their voice, and how much was the head writer/the editor/the network/the actor/the director/etc.

Fair enough. However, as I've posted upthread, I have had the opportunity (privilege, really) to read Casiello's work, and in my opinion, he has "the knack". Yes, I'm sure Higley, Latham or Sheffer imposed certain plot points upon his breakdown(s); however, it's how he finessed those into solid and entertaining outlines that made the difference. (After all, a good script is more than just good dialogue, right? The structure has to be tight as well.)

I'm just saying that what he's saying or doing, with his 8 years of experience, is nothing grander than anyone else who has been in this business for 30+ years.

IA. That's why I try not to put him on any sort of pedestal. Yes, I believe him to be a good writer, but I'm not suggesting he's the "bestest (breakdown) writer who ever lived!". He's "good", and we certainly need more like him in soaps. That's all.

I'm sure you'll point out numerous ways I've contradicted myself.

As Walt Whitman once said: Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes.

The fact that we've all wasted three pages in this thread on this guy is more mind-boggling than anything.

Not as mind-boggling, though, as some conversations I've had on Facebook. (Jeebus, what was I smoking that night w/ T.R.?!)

"turbulent brilliance"

That's good. I'll have to use that sometime, casual-like, in conversation.

Tom is so great, that Zendallfan would rather he head write AMC then her dream head writing team of Thorsten Kaye and Alicia Minshew.

Dude, play nice.

Quiet, you! Let the good doctor speak. ;-)

Aw, come on, ZF, ya know I love ya!

Good for Tom! I think he will do a wonderful job at Y&R.

Congrats & good luck, Tom.

Edited January 23, 200916 yr by Rakesh

He's probably only there because he and Hogan get along.

Hogan doesn't hire the writing staff though. Yeah, of course networking helps - that's how the business works.

Back on point, I'm still lost when it comes to this overwhelming Casiello Lovefest.

I can only speak for myself.....I just think he's an awesome, friendly, genuine guy. Yes, I do like him as a breakdown writer (he wrote some of my favorite DAYS eps in 2007, ie. John's Funeral, the Thanksgiving ep), but knowing that he's those things I mentioned, makes me love the guy even more. LOL Alvin, remember that 3-4 hour discussion at ITZ chatroom with Tom where stopped by and we (along with Shawn, and I forget who else was there) went to like 2-3am and we discussed like every soap (even cancelled ones like PC, AW). I cannot say enough about how cool and down to earth he is. So yeah, that's where my Casiello lovefest comes from.

Let me explain: it's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall fake.

Sure it is.

I'm just saying that what he's saying or doing, with his 8 years of experience, is nothing grander than anyone else who has been in this business for 30+ years. I understand and appreciate the fact that we're rooting for him and Bibel because they are in our age range (well, some of us, anyway), and are the future of the genre, but still. I think outline writing is a thankless role.

What Khan said. It's not like we pronouncing him as the great breakdown writer ever. We're just saying, we like the guy, that's all.

Ditto to both of your posts. I totally agree with ya. Just booooooo...to him joining Y&R again. I hope he doesn't ruin the show. It is so good right now.

What Alvin said. You think a breakdown writer, on a trial no less, is going to come in and change the direction and ruin of the show? Come on, man. LOL I expected more writer-knowledge from you, Ron!! I'm disappointed in you.

Tom is so great, that Zendallfan would rather he head write AMC then her dream head writing team of Thorsten Kaye and Alicia Minshew.

LOL this tiresome ish again. It's an OPINION and it's mine, please don't perceive you can speak for me or read my mind.

The man gets what makes soaps tick. Go back and read his blogs all the way through. The man GETS IT.

He'll be an asset to Y&R. I'm not surprised though, he's not the kind of guy Frons would want around, he doesn't seem like he would cowtow to Fronsie

Edited January 23, 200916 yr by Zendall Fan

What Alvin said. You think a breakdown writer, on a trial no less, is going to come in and change the direction and ruin of the show? Come on, man. LOL I expected more writer-knowledge from you, Ron!! I'm disappointed in you.

Awww...I'm touched you think highly of me, Toups.

Yeah, I know a lot about writers. Tom was not very good the last time on Y&R. How do we know he gets it now?...LOL But I know he is on trial bases.

I have a much different opinion of Maria Bell, to be honest. I don't think she'll keep a writer who isn't delivering what she wants on her show. It's not like ABC, where they keep somebody FOREVER out of loyalty, when they suck. MAB, from what I've seen, will cut people loose if it's not up to the Y&R standard. I trust her judgment, especially over the last six months. I think that's why I believe it doesn't really matter. This is MAB's show. It's not like Days, where it seems like a free-for-all, and everybody is involved in head writing. This is the Bells' show, and if you don't like their style, then you won't last long.

That's my feeling as well, MAB doesn't seem afraid to pull the trigger when it comes to her writing team. If someone doesn't cut it she'll cut them faster than a plastic surgeon doing an eye job at 9 am.

she'll cut them faster than a plastic surgeon doing an eye job at 9 am.

Wow, that's...vivid.

Needless to say, I am in total agreement w/ you, DF. Maria's giving him a chance (...and so should we). Trust me, with economics as rotten as they are right now, if he isn't up to her standards, she'll let him go. As simple as that.

Probably. I'm sure you'll point out numerous ways I've contradicted myself. At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter.

No, I won't, I hate this insinuation. I really have no time to go digging through your old posts pointing out to exactly that. It doesn't matter? Really? My, my. Of course it matters. Of course people are allowed to change their opinion. What I wanted to say is that I find strange, to use that adjective, that you first professed undying love and all of a sudden when Alvin, Sinclair and Co. started hating Tom, you jumped onto that bandwagon, too. That's all. But then again... You're a Libra. You're like a pendulum, oscillating between one point and the other.

I know you think that's a bad thing, Sylph, and I respect that.

No, I don't.

Sure it is.

Like I said.

Edited January 23, 200916 yr by Sylph

Like I said.

Okay there mind reader. Go ahead, explain why I'm fake. Back up your statement. Bring it on.