The anti-gay environment could be GL, but I wonder who at GL would actually be gay in the first place? Hasn't there been stuff said about opera-singing Ron Raines? But he's married with child, though. I can't think of any of those guys who would fit the bill, but there's always a surprise.

That said, I'd actually venture to say it's GH or DAYS.

MB (Cyrus)...

To me, it has to be a soap with alot of gay actors/actresses.

With OLTL's Carlivati and Valentini being openly gay, and Tuc Watkins- who is also openly gay- Its not OLTL

AMC- Nah

ATWT- No way. Obviously

B&B? No way.

Y&R has a few gay actors. And Paul Rauch IS old school. I can't see Maria Arena Bell approving of such demoralizing behavior though.

GH to me has always seemed like the biggest bunch of closet cases on daytime. LOLLL

Days- That place sounds messed up as it is..

GL- I just don't feel Ellen being this terrible. It doesn't make sense to me.

I am thinking Days or GH.

Good analysis. I think it's Days or GH too.

I wish GL had gone ahead with the lesbian relationship but am okay with their not doing it because it would have been a big risk. I think Crystal Chappell would have knocked it out of the park.

I also hope Roger Howarth does leave ATWT! Paul/Meg being on every day is the only really bad part of ATWT right now. Most of the rest of the show is great.

No one seems to have commented on the Richard Mensing thing yet ... Why was he fired?

I for one am glad that Wheeler nixed the lesbian relationship for Olivia and Natalia. I for one felt it would hurt the characters and did not want to see it between them at all. There are some characters you can see going gay after awhile, but Olivia is not one of them for me.

I agree with you on the GL/lesbian thing. It wouldn't have sense, and I thought that everyone pretty much agreed on that when the thing was brought up a few months ago. It just wouldn't add up at all.

MB (Cyrus)...

Really? Damn, I'm always the last to know everything! He never gets me pinging at all, but if he is, that's all varieties of sex wrapped up in a hot Australian package.

To me, it has to be a soap with alot of gay actors/actresses.

With OLTL's Carlivati and Valentini being openly gay, and Tuc Watkins- who is also openly gay- Its not OLTL

AMC- Nah

ATWT- No way. Obviously

B&B? No way.

Y&R has a few gay actors. And Paul Rauch IS old school. I can't see Maria Arena Bell approving of such demoralizing behavior though.

GH to me has always seemed like the biggest bunch of closet cases on daytime. LOLLL

Days- That place sounds messed up as it is..

GL- I just don't feel Ellen being this terrible. It doesn't make sense to me.

I am thinking Days or GH.

Why an "Obviously" for ATWT? I can see them keeping actors in the closet simply because of Nuke. People no longer whisper about Van anymore, so maybe for some reason they're desperate to keep that quiet? And isn't there stuff said about Michael Park?

And who at Y&R is gay? I may be too curious for my own good lol

I think its GH and NOT GL.

Why an "Obviously" for ATWT? I can see them keeping actors in the closet simply because of Nuke. People no longer whisper about Van anymore, so maybe for some reason they're desperate to keep that quiet? And isn't there stuff said about Michael Park?

Luke is becoming frontburner, and recent casting spoilers suggest that will continue ... They need him for ratings ... The last thing they would do is threaten Van Hansis's job right now.

As far as the new producer thing. AMC needs a new producer. Many of the shows do but with Pratt changing AMC for the better a new producer can only make it better. And surely Thorsten Kaye is professional enough that he is not going to leave because JHC gets fired. If not then it is his loss and it would be sorry of him to rob his fans of seeing him work just because of that.

With the climate of soap operas cutting back and all as they are, unless he has something definitely lined up he needs to stay where he is at. And I am sure that he has worked with other producers on other shows before.

I'm not so sure. He made it very clear early on that he came to AMC to work for Julie again. That was the definitive reason.

As for Lisa Hesser, I do not have much faith in an old Sunset Beach/Passions producer. She had a brief run at AMC as a coordinating producer under Felicia Behr and but then it looks like Francesca James gave her the boot when she took over as EP.

I'm not so sure. He made it very clear early on that he came to AMC to work for Julie again. That was the definitive reason.

As for Lisa Hesser, I do not have much faith in an old Sunset Beach/Passions producer. She had a brief run at AMC as a coordinating producer under Felicia Behr and but then it looks like Francesca James gave her the boot when she took over as EP.

Well we have no idea what his contract situation is. I would assume he signed a 3 year contract in 2007? Unless he has an out. I personally still think JHC isn't going anywhere, but I could be wrong. I just again do not see the point. This Lisa woman I doubt would bring anything else to the table, unless like you say she would be better and slashing the budget. I think the production standards have somewhat improved all things considering since Pratt began his work as a consulting producer. Since Julie and Francesca are such good pals I am surprised she never got a more permanent job on AMC... maybe Francesca did not want it? She has just directed the occasional episode.

I have heard Francesca loves directing and not interested in executive producing. She and Julie are very very good friends. Wendy Riche, Francesca, Julie, Claire Labine was GH's dream team. It was such a special time for GH. I really miss Wendy Riche and would love to see her return to daytime in any capacity.

I deep down hate Ellen Wheeler, then on top of it she's playing the religious moral card to stop her show from stepping into the 21st century? Is a steady camera and actual sets against her religion too?

I am not sure that Lisa De Cozette can bring anything new to the show either, but Julie hasn't so why not give someone else a try. Just to avoid trying to do better to keep one actor is not a good excuse at all. We have to think about what is best for the show overall and getting a new producer to me is worth the loss of Thorsten Kaye or almost any actor except for the ones who are originals - and then I would have to evaluate it. I all for what is the best for the show and that is why some of the quibbles against AMC recently aren't even given credence by me because they are for individual or couple reasons and not for the best of the show.

Right now Pratt is looking at the picture of the show as a whole and not at just one fan base. It is about damn time.

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As to the Olivia/Natalia pairing, I am like AMS I don't remember anyone hearing that they were in favor of it. And now on several boards they are raking Ellen Wheeler over the coals for scrapping it.

It makes me wonder what people would have said if she had given it the green light. I imagine that it would have been used as another way that she was destroying the show.

As for me I don't care why she stopped it. As I said it was a bad decision to even go there anyway. It was out of nowhere.

I posted the new Daytime Confidential article in the " Is An East Coast EP getting Fired?" thread. They seem to think Julie is in fact getting her pink slip soon and being replaced with Lisa de Cazotte.

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They also seem to think ABC has to renew their soaps too, I'd say they seem like a less credible source

I would love to see RH Todd and TSJ Todd meet up just because it would be funny to see RH with his "yelling like a 7 year old who needs a nap" Todd take on TSJ with his "sometimes talking so low you can barley hear him and looking at the floor" Todd. They can fight over which one of them is more evil.

LOL I love your two assessments on the Todds.

ATWT should fire Roger Howarth.