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Yeah, I'm getting the same message.

 

Okay, I get escorting Vindman from the WH -- it's a travesty, but I get it -- but why his twin brother?  What did HE do?

 

My "favorite" part of the NYT article:

 

At least one Republican joined the protest. Senator Susan Collins of Maine said witnesses should not be punished for giving the House required testimony. “I obviously am not in favor of any kind of retribution against anyone who came forward with evidence,” she said in Maine, according to the Portland Press Herald.

 

But, remember, Susie: you thought Trump had learned his lesson. 

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17 minutes ago, Wendy said:

Susie is very concerned. Hope Sara Gideon makes her unemployed this November.

 

Honestly, it was all I could do not to laugh while reading her quote.  "I don't support anyone being punished for blowing the whistle."  Well, gal, what did you expect Trump to do?  Oh, that's right.  You thought he had been properly chastised; and now, humbled and contrite, he'll ask to award all the whistleblowers, including Vindman, the Medal of Honor!

 

Sigh.

 

I wish Sen. Collins would take a page from her colleague, Mitch McConnell's, book and stop pretending to care.  Acting as if events such as this matter to her only makes her look false as hell.

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5 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Where the hell has he been? Living in willful ignorance, I guess.

 

I'm torn between thinking he's a grifter who knows his cultists will lap it up, or he's a deluded old fool who is very happy in his bubble. Look at this absolute nonsense about how he'll get his health care sham through.

 

 

There are no people to rally. McConnell won't do anything, other than grind the  idea into the dust. I'm amazed at all these trust fund Bernie brats who claim that he is the one who will get things done because he's going to take on the system. He's going to suck from the trough, along with those around him. And the poor will continue to suffer and die while his groupies yuk it up on podcasts. 

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Not that anyone will lose sleep over the news, but Gordon Sondland has been shown the door as well.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/07/us/politics/alexander-vindman-gordon-sondland-fired.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

As I had suspected, Vindman's twin brother has been relieved his WH duties, simply because he's Vindman's twin brother.  It doesn't get more McCarthyesque than that, ladies and gentlemen.

 

Interesting, too, how we've been accusing Joe Manchin of being in the tank for Trump for the longest time; yet, he actually votes "yes," and suddenly, he's a "puppet" for Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

 

59 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

There are no people to rally. McConnell won't do anything, other than grind the  idea into the dust. I'm amazed at all these trust fund Bernie brats who claim that he is the one who will get things done because he's going to take on the system. He's going to suck from the trough, along with those around him. And the poor will continue to suffer and die while his groupies yuk it up on podcasts. 

 

I realize we have to "vote blue, no matter who," but Bernie and his cult members do NOT make it easy.

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2 hours ago, dragonflies said:

Awww damn. It was a hilarious Bloomberg video about Trump

 

You know, all of a sudden, there appears to be an uptick in coverage about Bloomberg's campaign.  Especially after Biden's disappointing finish in the Iowa caucus.

 

I just wish I had more faith in Bloomberg's ability to grab the nomination.  Because, in many ways, he's EXACTLY the kind of candidate I would want to run against Trump.

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4 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Is this the country that Americans want?

 

It's the country that nearly half the voters either want or will tolerate. I've mostly come to accept that, even though it's stunning. Sadly, this is where Fox news, the internet and ignorance has brought us.

 

I just saw that a doctor who warned people about the virus in China has just died of it after being arrested for telling people the truth.  Now here we are punishing people for telling the truth. What could go wrong?

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1 hour ago, Khan said:

 

 

I realize we have to "vote blue, no matter who," but Bernie and his cult members do NOT make it easy.

The farther we get into this process the fewer of these people I actively want to vote for. I will, but it's more a vote against Trump than a vote for any of them.

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I may be one of the few who watched tonights debate but Amy Klobuchar wiped the floor IMO.  She looked "presidential". She was calm and decisive. Presidential is the first time I have said this in any debate about anyone.  I hope she lasts. I thought Buttigieg did well outside of his stumbles on race(being facetious I think his answers were AWFUL). Yeah that was a big deal and he should be at this point prepared for those questions. Yang got shafted again, tom Steyer have no idea what he is doing, Biden had a couple of good moments. 

 

If Amy is still around when Super Tuesday comes my vote is with her. 

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For sure, if the NYT was serious in their endorsements of Klobuchar and Warren, then Klobuchar needs to stay alive in the race, as I believe Warren's decline to be irreversible at this point.  Otherwise, they'll look like morons for choosing two candidates who were picked off in the primaries by the likes of cult leader Bernie and Opie Buttigieg.

 

Of course, I'm still not convinced the NYT didn't employ a bit of reverse psychology on the public in order to get the candidate they really wanted.  But, that's just me.

 

1 hour ago, Juliajms said:

The farther we get into this process the fewer of these people I actively want to vote for. I will, but it's more a vote against Trump than a vote for any of them.

 

Like I said before, if many of y'all had to hold your noses in order to vote for Hillary, I can only imagine what we'll have to hold in order to vote for Bernie (or Buttigieg, or Biden, or Klobuchar or Warren).

 

2 hours ago, Juliajms said:

It's the country that nearly half the voters either want or will tolerate. I've mostly come to accept that, even though it's stunning. Sadly, this is where Fox news, the internet and ignorance has brought us.

 

Just today, I was reading about the mom who let her child die of the flu (at least, I think it was flu), because of all the anti-vaxxers on Facebook telling her what to do instead of getting that child Tamiflu.  "Give him peppermint oil and a potato in a sock instead!"  Peppermint oil and a potato in a sock!?  It's the 21st century, and even with all the technology and information available, it still feels like we've rolled back the calendar to the Dark Ages!

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I'm not voting for any of these candidates in the primary at this point, so I have no room to cast doubt. I want to like Klobcuhar, but she just seems extremely phony to me and I don't believe her record in Minnesota is enough to win voters over. There are also huge landmines in her record that will not get real attention until late in the process. 

 

There's a huge clump of moderate Democrats who are tearing each other apart and giving Bernie a path to glide to a near-sure November loss. 

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11 hours ago, Juliajms said:

I just saw that a doctor who warned people about the virus in China has just died of it after being arrested for telling people the truth.  Now here we are punishing people for telling the truth. What could go wrong?

 

What's sad (but not as sad as the doctor's death) is that the U.S. is in absolutely no position to say a damn thing about it since there is an autocracy currently going on in the U.S.

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