1 minute ago, JaneAusten said:

That one surprised me since the Times tried to hard to give the right their talking point but most of the MSM did not take the bait or allow the right to go there before being shut down.

 

I guess the only thing I will say is that everyone cries about how the Beltway is out of touch with Americans, yet we continue to rely on those same people to inform us how we are feeling. This is not a center right country it's center. Maybe even slightly center left. I refuse to go by why anyone in the DC press tells me.

 

I finally heard that idiot Michael Moore admit that the working class is not Joe Sixpack at the local diner but women, PoC, and immigrants. Coming for someone, Moore, who loves to chide democrats for not chasing people unreachable, that was a big change.

 

I don't think the country is center-right, but I think the country is so burned out psychologically they are often tricked into ideas that end up being much more extreme than they realize. For instance, the section of so-called Christian Trump voters who are now, belatedly, speaking out about how concerned they are over his hardline policies regarding refugees. They were duped into believing that his clear bigotry and xenophobia was just talk to get elected. 

 

In many cases it's about framing, and a con job. Trump was good at conning people into believing what he was selling. There's not much of an alternative on the left because many on the left who are in positions of power aren't sociopaths and aren't there to just tell blatant lies. Hopefully voters will wake up this time.

 

I saw Moore saying that Biden is the new Hillary. The problem with that argument is any Democrat who runs will be the new Hillary. And many of his supporters are already pushing that narrative, eagerly. 

57 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 

I'd say they aren't as different in Iowa, given how much federal officials end up being tied into local issues there like ethanol, but if you're too tired to respond, that's fine. This will be my last post directed to you here or elsewhere on the board.

As I already stated, Democrats won three out of the 4 House seats in Iowa last year and that happened even though the incumbent Republican Governor was being elected. In rural states the state-level offices are often view quite separately than the federal ones. I was rude in my previous post, so I will apologize for that. The situation the country is in is just frustrating, but I shouldn't take it out on posters here.

Edited October 4, 20196 yr by ReddFoxx

Media darling Marco strikes again:

 

 

Maggie Haberman yuck. Talk about out of touch. Why is this tweet even newsworthy. This fraud was never going to show any courage. Who outside of these out of touch reporters don't know Rubio is an empty suit like Paul Ryan another so called star. I hope you realize Carl that this shows how completely out of touch all the Beltway press is and Haberman has become nothing more than a gossip columnist for Trump, IVanka, and Jared. Frankly she should be recusing herself from covering any of them based on her mothers PR firm having represented them.

Edited October 4, 20196 yr by JaneAusten

20 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

Maggie Haberman yuck. Talk about out of touch. Why is this tweet even newsworthy. This fraud was never going to show any courage. Who outside of these out of touch reporters don't know Rubio is an empty suit like Paul Ryan another so called star. I hope you realize Carl that this shows how completely out of touch all the Beltway press is and Haberman has become nothing more than a gossip columnist for Trump, IVanka, and Jared. Frankly she should be recusing herself from covering any of them based on her mothers PR firm having represented them.

 

I've long been aware they're out of touch - the problem is more the power they still have over the narrative and the country. 

 

As for the tweet, I mostly just enjoy any new example showing what a fraud and a weasel Marco Rubio is as to this day people keep pushing him.

Edited October 4, 20196 yr by DRW50

22 hours ago, Vee said:

Oh lord, he has not. He's still in terrible trouble. This is only working for the base and that is not enough to save him from this inquiry. The polling shows that. Stop being spooked by those people.

And now:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not spooked at all. I just know who and what I'm dealing with. While I'm not a far leftist (A Bernie Bro, or a Green), I've been wanting Trump removed from office long before this Ukraine stuff even came up. I'm a get rid of Trump by all costs type of person and let the chips fall where they may type of person. You have some left leaning posters here and elsewhere have been scared to even impeach Trump (even now)  because the Senate doesn't have the voter or the polls don't have enough Republican support to do it. If Trump was to get the military to destroy a city like Chicago and Los Angeles, many left wingers still wouldn't do anything because the polls don't have enough support to do anything.

8 minutes ago, sivad40 said:

I'm not spooked at all. I just know who and what I'm dealing with. While I'm not a far leftist (A Bernie Bro, or a Green), I've been wanting Trump removed from office long before this Ukraine stuff even came up. I'm a get rid of Trump by all costs type of person and let the chips fall where they may type of person. You have some left leaning posters here and elsewhere have been scared to even impeach Trump (even now)  because the Senate doesn't have the voter or the polls don't have enough Republican support to do it. If Trump was to get the military to destroy a city like Chicago and Los Angeles, many left wingers still wouldn't do anything because the polls don't have enough support to do anything.

I have always believe it was moderates who were more concerned about impeachment, although if you're talking about the extreme far left kooks - some of who support Bernie and Tulsi Gabbard I agree. I don't know there are any far leftists here.

 

I was trusting Pelosi because she's an experienced politician and I think knows Trump and knew something else would come up. But at this point everyone should know the playbook and should know what to expect.

It won't let me leave it empty.

Edited October 4, 20196 yr by Donna B
Delete.

Unless I'm missing something, I think you may be in the wrong thread, @Donna B.

3 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Unless I'm missing something, I think you may be in the wrong thread, @Donna B.

Oh, double darnit. I was in Official Off Topic. How'd I get into Politics?!! Can I move myself or do I have to get an admin to do it for me?

Just delete the post and move on.

26 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Unless I'm missing something, I think you may be in the wrong thread, @Donna B.

@DreamerDramatist Thanks. I screwd up!

14 minutes ago, Vee said:

Just delete the post and move on.

@Vee, how do you delete a post?

2 minutes ago, Donna B said:

@DreamerDramatist Thanks. I screwd up!

 

It happens.  People generally just type "wrong thread"  or "deleted post" because there is no actual way to remove the post, so just fill it with something brief and click Reply. 

Bernie basically had a heart attack.

 

BREAKING: Senator Bernie Sanders suffered a “myocardial infarction” or heart attack this week, his doctors say. pic.twitter.com/nDnHFyHAG7

— CNBC Now (@CNBCnow) October 4, 2019

Everyone has health issues with them sometimes being more serious than others and that's not something one should be criticized or judged for. But when it comes to the presidency these are things have to be considered because it is a high stress position that requires much travel. I'm not being mean, but Sanders looks far too frail to be President and this heart attack doesn't suggest that he is in that great of condition. It's also not great that the campaign tried to make it seem like something minor.