Members Vee Posted June 21, 2018 Members Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) Well, that's what I'm talking about. Old, lazy narratives that need to be slowly broken, and the compulsive need for a horse race is what good journalists and otherwise decent people are always working with or against - and sometimes both for and against without realizing the cognitive dissonance. Our media is complicit in a lot of ways. But that doesn't change the fact that there are also a lot of people doing good work in compromised institutions, and we need them because we have no viable alternative that can reach the most people. Further, it's sometimes the laziest personalities, shows or networks that reach the laziest or most ambivalent audiences in the middle of America when they get outraged about something like the camps. That is important, no matter the delivery system or the personality. The result is what matters. And they never will. To me waiting for it is a waste of time. The Morning Joe crew have a multitude of sins to answer for, but they'd still never cosign putting people into camps. They are human beings with some core of decency, however blinkered or hypocritical. More importantly, from a cold and pragmatic standpoint, they serve an important function, as I indicated above - they are an access point to the lazy Beltway media and bureaucracy. Everyone in Washington, in media or on Capitol Hill, knows about, watches or goes on that show and others like it. If people like that crew turn on Trump vehemently and often and speak to their human outrage - however hypocritical given their past sins - that trickles down to the rest of the lazy, cushioned Beltway class, bit by bit. It is using their own people to galvanize them. Their own tribe is what they understand. I don't have to forgive them to favor that usage. Edited June 21, 2018 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted June 21, 2018 Members Share Posted June 21, 2018 Definitely not a "Be Best" moment. Someone in that Trump cabal is being honest for once. I definitely believe that Melania simply doesn't care. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted June 21, 2018 Members Share Posted June 21, 2018 I've only seen two members of the media acknowledge that they screwed up in 2016: Jeffrey Toobin (“I think there was a lot of false equivalence in the 2016 campaign. That every time we said something, pointed out something about Donald Trump — whether it was his business interests, or grab ’em by the p–––y, we felt like, ‘Oh, we gotta, like, talk about — we gotta say something bad about Hillary.’ And I think it led to a sense of false equivalence that was misleading, and I regret my role in doing that.”) and Amy Chozick ("The Bernie Bros and Mr. Trump’s Twitter trolls had called me a donkey-faced whore and a Hillary shill, but nothing hurt worse than my own colleagues calling me a de facto instrument of Russian intelligence. The worst part was, they were right."). Everyone else is still out here doing what they did before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted June 21, 2018 Members Share Posted June 21, 2018 Chozick has a lot of other shít to answer for. I'm not giving her too much credit. A telling new profile: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted June 21, 2018 Members Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) I think it's sick and disgusting. People need to that kid alone. This is infuriating. https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1009895000031875072 Edited June 21, 2018 by Juliajms 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoria foxton Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) https://t.co/u47CQGrgIA 'I REALLY DON'T CARE, DO U?' Melania wears a $39 jacket with a very controversial message scrawled on the back as she boards a plane to visit immigrant children at the Texas border https://t.co/wVqfmYdizd Crisis actor spotted at Texas child migrant detention center Please register in order to view this content Edited June 21, 2018 by victoria foxton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members dragonflies Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 WHAT.THE.F*CK 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 That jacket actually makes my jaw drop. I guess they just are in Breitbart level trolling now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 Both parts of the Korean peninsula seem to be making the most progress of all of these summit meetings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 Ron Howard throwing shade at the orange moron lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) When you're the First Lady, you know all eyes will be upon you, and that people will scrutinize your every move. Even if Melania wasn't actually saying she didn't give a f**k about the immigrant babies and children being forced into concentration camps, she (or her team) had to have been aware of the kind of statement wearing that particular jacket would have made at that particular moment. So, either they're clueless, or they truly do not care. (Or, it's probably a little of both, lol.) Aunt Bee and Marion Cunningham would be beside themselves at the sight of their Opie/Richie being so salty. Edited June 22, 2018 by Khan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoria foxton Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 http://www.newnownext.com/melania-trump-jacket-reaction-wildfang/06/2018/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 That cover looks so cheap and tacky to me. If I had any respect for Time I might be more moved by it than I am. It just feels like a cash grab. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 I think it would have been more effective to have the children inside the actual camps on the cover. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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