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27 minutes ago, MoTheGreat said:

But, SCOTUS told Donald that his pardon won't work here.

That only matters if we are still under the rule of law.  How sure are we that that's the case? Look at the corruption and ethics violations that are already going on and no one is stopping it.

7 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

There are a lot of racists in this country

 

Also a lot of people who are fed up with business as usual in DC. The funny thing is despite Trumps attempts to shake things up, Congress - all republican - has yet to pass anything and they are only fast forwarding their tax bill due to fear of their donors turning their backs in 2018 elections. Same as the prior 6 years in congress which was under GOP control with Obama. Nothing done in Congress. Other than a ton of Hillary investigations

Nothing done in Congress, but still a lot of awful things are being done. Looks at the refugee situation and all the environmental and consumer protections being gutted. All of us in this thread can probably name 10 horrible things that have happened because of Trump.

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56 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

Nothing done in Congress, but still a lot of awful things are being done. Looks at the refugee situation and all the environmental and consumer protections being gutted. All of us in this thread can probably name 10 horrible things that have happened because of Trump.

I'm not discounting any of that, particularly the EPA side. I highly doubt most even understand the impact of what's happening at the EPA. Kristoff at the NY Times has done some great work on this. I hope at least those on the purist left are paying attention as we become an over polluted country again all in the interests of the fossil fuel industry. That's what happens when you only plan to vote for the purist of the pure.

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1 hour ago, JaneAusten said:

I'm not discounting any of that, particularly the EPA side. I highly doubt most even understand the impact of what's happening at the EPA. Kristoff at the NY Times has done some great work on this. I hope at least those on the purist left are paying attention as we become an over polluted country again all in the interests of the fossil fuel industry. That's what happens when you only plan to vote for the purist of the pure.

It's truly insane how much awful stuff is happening.  I want to believe Mueller can stop him, but it may be too late.  People keep accepting more and more corruption and it's becoming obvious that it's very hard to stop.

2 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Puerto Rico cancelled the contract with Whitefish.  Good!

Thank God.

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And so it begins...

 

Today has been one of those days I wouldn't have believed a year ago. And we are likely just at the crux of whatever is ahead.

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just as with Watergate, you start lower and build up. His campaign manager. and Trump will DEFINITELY make this so much worse.  Bottom line.....this is the beginning of the end for Donald Trump as POTUS.

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Manafort charged with 12 counts including Conspiracy against the United States. The deplorables are on Twitter saying this has nothing to do with Russia and the Clinton indictment is on the way. Gotta love the commitment to the delusion. 

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57 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

And so it begins...

 

Today has been one of those days I wouldn't have believed a year ago. And we are likely just at the crux of whatever is ahead.

I can hardly believe it. I would be down right giddy, but until 45 is led out of the white house I can't help but thing something will go wrong.

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A reporter just said that even if Trump uses pardon, due to the fact that many of Manafort's crimes have taken place in NY jurisdiction, Schneiderman will go hard on Manafort.

Cy Vance, who has recently been heavily criticized for going light against the Trump kids and Weinstein will face an inordinate amount of pressure to prosecute to the fullest and he will, if he wants to have a chance to keep his job.

Pardon or no pardon, Manafort faces serious jail time.

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