Jump to content
Email System Update

The Politics Thread

Toups

By Toups
in Off Topic Lounge

 Share

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 45.8k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Vee

    6816

  • DRW50

    5988

  • DramatistDreamer

    5521

  • Khan

    3458

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Posted Images

  • Members
DRW50 Grand Master

DRW50

Posted
  • Members
Posted

 

+17 and +11 were always ludicrous. 

 

The main problem is that so many polls, everywhere, showed much tighter races up and down the ballot. This is the third straight election to have polls that were off. I think that this county no longer has enough trust to be honest with pollsters. I also think that in Trump's case, while the "shy Trump" voter is overblown (many are loud and virulent in their support), there are many people who find him repulsive but still vote for him because of religious reasons, or taxes, or racism. They wouldn't admit this.

 

The other problem is that we see Democrats still don't have a proper national strategy to be able to have a dominant bulwark like the GOP does. The losses in the House make that clear. And I don't know what they can do, as the GOP has the institutions, along with the easy appeal of racism and bigotry, on their side. Democrats, if Biden wins, were able to cobble together a patchwork of voters who may not be there for anyone else, or against anyone else but Trump, especially if Hispanic voters continue to move away from the party. 

 

Part of the losses are down to people buying McConnell's lies and spin about the stimulus (and good luck getting one of those now, you dumbasses out there), but there is also just a lack of strength and solid planning through the leadership, especially on the Senate side. 

 

There's also the usual media games (the Playbook in Politico was reporting on news this morning and showed a few headlines that were clearly salivating over Trump's strength and showing Democrats what's what, etc.). As long as Democrats do not have more media say in this country, we will continue to see the GOP have an advantage on every level. 

0
Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Members
Vee Grand Master

Vee

Posted
  • Members
Posted (edited)

Not having Trump in office would still be a major plus, and will change things within that party bit by bit. McConnell and Graham will go where they think survival is. It won't be a huge change in the GOP base, no, but it will make the Republicans in office operate somewhat differently by not cowering from the demagogue at the top of the ticket tweeting at them nonstop.

 

Republicans don't weep and rend their garments when they take the WH but not the Senate. They get on with it however they can. That's what we have to do now. I think there will be another stimulus, for example, with Trump no longer in the mix and more pressure on the Senate from above. But it's going to all be a series of fights.

 

 

 

Edited by Vee
0
Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Members
Darcy Newbie

Darcy

Posted
  • Members
Posted

I am still concerned about Trump (with perhaps Supreme Court) stealing it.  There are probably going to be recounts in most of these states.  This is probably going to take awhile.  I know it will be difficult without the Senate but I just really need to have a new cabinet and new aides (goodbye Ivanka, Jared, Stephen Miller, Bill Barr, Betsy DeVos, DeJoy, etc. etc.) and all the other crooked accomplices gone.  

0
Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Members
DRW50 Grand Master

DRW50

Posted
  • Members
Posted (edited)

 

McConnell is already well-compensated and has no reason to work with Democrats on anything IMO, but yes, hopefully they will be able to stop Graham from basically sucking up endless media oxygen with fruitless investigations against Biden and his son. Maybe for once his never-ending need for validation and love will find another outlet with his "daddy" leaving office (if he goes). 

 

It looks like Gary Peters is going to hold on, barring a shift, so that's good news at least. He was always the danger spot (poor Doug Jones had no chance). 

 

Off topic, but while I have issues with Ilhan Omar (mainly due to her apparent grifting) I do have to give her some credit for the MN victory. She had people going out campaigning in person even when the official campaign word was not to do so. That probably added a few points at least. 

Edited by DRW50
0
Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Members
Vee Grand Master

Vee

Posted
  • Members
Posted

 

The difference is, the GOP face a challenging map in 2022. And McConnell has no soul, but he is a reptile who goes where he senses victory and avoids where he senses danger. If Biden and the Dems properly use the bully pulpit they can push for the vote on stimulus or act by EO, just as Trump has done. We're going to have go hard, and we can.

0
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.


  • Recent Posts

    • Aback
      BTG: May 2025 Discussion Thread

      By Aback · Posted

      I totally understand your sloths concern about it and I agree with you. Let’s hope the show plays it’s cards right.    Further comments about the last few episodes: - I liked that one of the attendees was filming the scene. That’s realistic. I wonder if the writers will follow up with that.  - Martin and Smitty trying to drag Leslie out was very heteronormative, so perfectly in line with them two as characters lol.    As for the future: it’s obvious the Duprees will come to accept Eva one way or another, but the rivalry with Kay should be here for the long term   On the topic of acting: the only bad actors I’m seeing are Ted and Derek. Tomas hasn’t proven to be either good or bad, so far, but he’s certainly mediocre and uncharismatic. He sucks the energy out of the scenes and I don’t see any couple of women ever vying for him. 
    • AbcNbc247
      Another World Discussion Thread

      By AbcNbc247 · Posted

      I’m trying to think which actors VW were working with at the time, and none of them had been there for a while. Even like Mac and Ada didn’t have that big of a part in Rachel’s storyline.  And Jamie was involved with all that movie stuff.
    • DRW50
      As The World Turns Discussion Thread

      By DRW50 · Posted

      Brooke did ads before ATWT too. That probably helped get her the job. After ATWT she seemed to branch more into hosting, along with ads.  I think I saw Kelley in an ad or two, but you're right she wasn't on as much. 
    • DRW50
      Another World Discussion Thread

      By DRW50 · Posted

        Thanks for sharing these. I wonder if Charles might have been in the running for Adam. I know Preacher was a bit of a bad boy at times on EON, but Neal seemed to be a step down, and Robert Lupone had played a similar part on AMC. Given the huge cast turnover at this point I wonder who thought they had been there long enough to go.  Laura Malone/Chris Rich would get a remote within the next year. 
    • AbcNbc247
      Another World Discussion Thread

      By AbcNbc247 · Posted

      Interesting.  It seems to allude to that statement that Warren Burton made around that time about some AW actors getting special treatment.  I wonder who was resentful about not getting to go. 
    • AbcNbc247
      Daily Hotness

      By AbcNbc247 · Posted

      Good morning, boys!  I figured that it was time that our Gio was introduced into the hotness thread

      Please register in order to view this content

      @ranger1rg I even included a close up of his face for ya!
    • Maxim
      The Madonna Thread

      By Maxim · Posted

      Under all of Madonna's social media today there is this wave of negative, toxic, absurd comments by Lady Gaga fans telling her how Gaga surpassed her in concert in Copacabana. I mean... Who the hell cares? Why are these fan communities so freaking toxic??? I'm sure Madonna doesn't care... But still. Have some respect for M. Leave her social media alone. Go cheer Gaga and be happy. Why come and spew hate on M??? Crazy world.
    • Contessa Donatella
      In Loving Memory: Ruth Buzzi (Letitia Bradford, Days, 1983)

      By Contessa Donatella · Posted

      FYI, again, Ruth/Letitia is not in either of these 2 episodes. So that concludes the 4 episodes I had from Nov. 1983. I don't have the October episodes.
    • Maxim
      Another World Discussion Thread

      By Maxim · Posted

      Eddie has begun uploading the 1990 episodes. I'm so happy about that. I was mindfully taking a break till there's plenty of episodes I can binge watch when I feel like it. Now that 1989 is complete... I can't wait to press play on February 1989 and resume where I left off.
    • Maxim
      Show how are you feeling right now as a GIF or YT clip

      By Maxim · Posted

      Please register in order to view this content

      Me when someone asks me to be proper and demure. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

  I accept