This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

And thanks so much for calling me ignorant....wow you are just in that position to judge

I see you are from Los Angeles...hmm that explains it

right because ONLY people in big bad evil LA judge. please.

furthermore, who are you to judge someone because of a city they live in?

After the 8 years of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney & Condileeza Rice and their Iraq War, anyone with a brain should vote DEMOCRATIC! Anyone voting for another W, that's exactly what John McCain will be, must be out of their freaking mind, have no common sense or brains, or as just f'd up in the skull as W is!

And Sylph, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are great Presidential candidates and either one of them will make an excellent President and will be a helluva lot better than W, Dick, Bush Sr or Ronnie Reagan!!!! They'd make a great ticket and I hope they will agree to run with each other after the winner is decided. I am hoping Hillary as President and Barack as Vice. I think Barack needs just a little more experience before becoming President. 8 years as Vice would be just that for Barack, then hopefully he'll get the Presidency.

Edited February 1, 200817 yr by Mulder

After the 8 years of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney & Condileeza Rice and their Iraq War, anyone with a brain should vote DEMOCRATIC! Anyone voting for another W, that's exactly what John McCain will be, must be out of their freaking mind, have no common sense or brains, or as just f'd up in the skull as W is!

And Sylph, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are great Presidential candidates and either one of them will make an excellent President and will be a helluva lot better than W, Dick, Bush Sr or Ronnie Reagan!!!! They'd make a great ticket and I hope they will agree to run with each other after the winner is decided. I am hoping Hillary as President and Barack as Vice. I think Barack needs just a little more experience before becoming President. 8 years as Vice would be just that for Barack, then hopefully he'll get the Presidency.

I totally agree with that. They seemed very friendly last night but alas that could all be for show but it would do the nation great service to see a Clinton/Obama ticket....

I ultimately think Clinton will win the nomination. She's been the president in waiting in the eyes of many within the Democratic party if you ask me. I expect her to do better than Barack will on Super Tuesday and that will essentially make her the front runner. My opinion though, an outsider's opinion at that. I wish I could vote LOL.

On the Republican Side if McCain gets the nomination (which looks likely) you are not changing a damn thing.

Anne coulter said if McCain is the republican nom she's gonna vote and even campaign for HILLARY.

Anne for Hillary????

This 2008 Presidential race gets interesting by the day.

Anne campaigning for Hillary, now that is something I'd PAY to see LOL. Will Anne ever just go away?

I'm LMAO at the Republicans all up in arms over McCain being a possible nominee because he's "not conservative enough".

McCain is pretty much disliked right now by the GOP so I say nominate him because the Clinton Machine will get ready to criticize him like no other and down he goes, just like George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, Rick Lazio, and that Spencer dude

right because ONLY people in big bad evil LA judge. please.

furthermore, who are you to judge someone because of a city they live in?

Hey Jack....lighten up will you? It was a joke

Anne coulter said if McCain is the republican nom she's gonna vote and even campaign for HILLARY.

I saw that...not a good thing for Hillary to have that woman (or man. I still think it really is a man) in your corner

I'm not really sure how to respond to this because I don't know what you're intent is. My intent was to point out that people are people basically and I'm not even implying that you don't already know this. I think it's easy for people to be defensive so I'm not even going to take that position because you're assuming that I was taking a negative approach when I was merely offering a pov since I couldn't even begin to touch the tip of the iceberg when it comes to this topic.

Since I'm not sure what you mean about being from Los Angeles then I can't properly respond to this either. I surely don't want to take it as anything negative since it's a melting pot so to speak.

Hey Wales...sorry I misread your post and got the wrong interpretation. About the LA comment..I was just joking. As a whole, I loathe the city but not everyone there is judgmental and bad but, for the most part, that is the impression I get (I would say 90% of the residents there are stuck up, snotty, rude, egocentric, money hungry). At least it is liberal and you got an awesome mayor (he is my first pick to be the nominee for Governor in 2010...for the Democrats, that is)

After the 8 years of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney & Condileeza Rice and their Iraq War, anyone with a brain should vote DEMOCRATIC! Anyone voting for another W, that's exactly what John McCain will be, must be out of their freaking mind, have no common sense or brains, or as just f'd up in the skull as W is!

And Sylph, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are great Presidential candidates and either one of them will make an excellent President and will be a helluva lot better than W, Dick, Bush Sr or Ronnie Reagan!!!! They'd make a great ticket and I hope they will agree to run with each other after the winner is decided. I am hoping Hillary as President and Barack as Vice. I think Barack needs just a little more experience before becoming President. 8 years as Vice would be just that for Barack, then hopefully he'll get the Presidency.

ITA and I am Australian and I don't like Bush and Co.

We had 11 years of little Johnny Howard here and every time Bush told him to jump he asked how high. He was also known as Bush's puppet cuz he did what ever his very good friend George wanted.

Finally in Nov of last year we voted little Johnny and his party out. He even lost his seat.

Kevin Rudd became our new Prime Minister. If Bush tells him to jump he will tell Bush to get back to him next week and he will see if he has time then

Now one of the first things he did was order a withdrawal of our troops from Iraq and they are expected to be home by mid year.

I think that he also told Bush at the climate thing in Dec last year to pull his finger out and to do something to help.

Edited February 2, 200817 yr by SnCCorinthos4ever

Well it sounds like you got an improvement in leadership, SnC!

McCain is pretty much disliked right now by the GOP so I say nominate him because the Clinton Machine will get ready to criticize him like no other and down he goes, just like George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, Rick Lazio, and that Spencer dude

Did you just say Rick Lazio? What an ass!!

Hey Wales...sorry I misread your post and got the wrong interpretation. About the LA comment..I was just joking. As a whole, I loathe the city but not everyone there is judgmental and bad but, for the most part, that is the impression I get (I would say 90% of the residents there are stuck up, snotty, rude, egocentric, money hungry). At least it is liberal and you got an awesome mayor (he is my first pick to be the nominee for Governor in 2010...for the Democrats, that is)

NP. I'm learning not to be emotional or defensive about anything I read because it's so easy to misinterpret a person's intent and I don't want to get angry about things that may not even matter to me in the long run.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on the percentage because I'm quite certain it is way lower than that. Maybe if you're talking about Beverly Hills, Brentwood, or some of the other elite neighborhoods, but the majority of the people fall into the middle to lower class. I guess it all depends on the encounters one has because those encounters for me have been the exception rather than the norn.

I also have to disagree with you about the mayor. He is most definitely busy propping himself up for higher office that he isn't dedicating the time he should to actually managing the city affairs. I see him as slick and polished as opposed to having any substance. But then again that is the nature of most politicians and that's why I can't really get into them. This whole place is overrun with career politicians who haven't done a thing but keep promising this and that as they steadily increase property taxes, lie about temporary sales tax increases, are seeking out tolls, etc. I'm pretty much expecting an offer of room and board for a paycheck once they've exhausted all their tax options.

Los Angeles needs a business minded mayor not one who is more concerned about being seen with celebrities. California needs a governor who can fix a wound not one who will put a whole lot of band aids on it while he's partying up.

Did you just say Rick Lazio? What an ass!!

Well yea she did beat him ....did he represent Long Island?

I just checked and yes he did...you poor guy. LOL! At least you did not have Gray Davis as your governor

Edited February 3, 200817 yr by DevotedToAMC