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Going by memory, I think Nikki first met Dr. Josh in a medical capacity when she and Brad were engaged and Dr. Josh gave the impression that he was married. It was after Nikki and Brad engagement ended that Nikki saw Dr. Josh again and found out he wasn't married. Hope was back for something like 8 months, returned Fall 1996 and was gone by Spring 1997. Y&R had been off-track since second half of 1994 (it started w/ the frat party). Summer 1996 I enjoyed Who Shot Victor, but it was in the fall that the lull hit and it would continue through the first half of 1997. @DRW50 You are killing me 🤣 Shari Shattuck casting as Ashley derailed some storylines too. I think Bill Bell was planning a Victor/Nikki/Brad/Ashley quad but Shari Shattuck didn't pass the chemistry tests w/ EB and Don Diamont so there goes that storyline.

GL had two show-defining villains w/ MZ Roger (original run 1971-1980 and return 1989-1997) and CB Alan (original run 1977-1984 and return 1986-1988). To those who watched Roger vs. Alan 1977-1980, who wins that villain battle?

Spring 1983 to Summer 1984 pretty much set up the final 25 years.

Are there any other basketball fans here? I don't want to be the only one posting about basketball 😆

@Maxim Beauty and the Beast is my favorite Disney movie of the 1990s Disney renaissance.

Thanks @Rmodelboy 🤗

Do not give Josh Griffith or Bradley ideas.

Classic story theme song battle. The only version that matters as far as I'm concerned. I recognize Celine Dion version cemented her place in the 1990s pop landscape but for me it will forever be Angela over Celine. Oh hells no to this version. If I was Angela Lansbury I would have bitch slapped Ariana Grande for ruining the song.

I think Days remains 2nd for the better part of the next two years. As we all know, the closest Days got to beating Y&R was June 23-27, 1997 and all of Reilly big storylines culminated in Summer 1997.

Thanks @Maxim 🤗

@Soapsuds It Must Have Been Love was the best song on the Pretty Woman soundtrack. Were you a fan of that movie?

It bears repeating, Bradley did not inherit his father's talent.

The cynic in me can't help but feel that GL being CBS highest-rated daytime drama in the Potter/Marland era was helped by Y&R being in their post-expansion slump. Remember pre-expansion Y&R was challenging General Hospital and All My Children for #1 but the expansion derailed all its momentum. Y&R rebounds in the second half of 1982 and that overlaps w/ GL post-Marland fall. It disappoints me that there was a ratings drop during the Calhoun era and the ratings did not reflect the quality of the show (at least to me).

How fitting that 1995 goes on a break right when Reilly Days has blown up 😆 Had Peter Reckell returned at this point?

GL did not finish at #1. It was proven in the 1980s ratings thread. GL won the time slot over General Hospital May 28-June 1, 4-8, 11-15, 1984. Y&R was #1 those three weeks.

Summer 1995 Y&R Nick/Sharon were eating the show and B&B was tanking as Bradley's big storylines had culminated. Reilly Days is about to blow up.

Y&R big event: Dru gives birth to Lily. That was the culmination of all of Bradley's storylines. B&B tanks for me in the second half of 1995.

I loved that episode, mainly because I never liked Friends anyway. I like your ideas for a Murder, She Wrote final season farewell. Sadly Les Moonves didn't allow that to happen. What we got was Everybody Loves Raymond, CSI, NCIS, The Big Bang Theory. All shows with a masculine energy, but that's neither here nor there for this thread.

Full House moved to Tuesday in 1991/92 and became a Top 10 show that season and the following season. Family Matters had two Top 30 seasons in 1991/92 (27th) and 1993/94 (30th). I had forgotten that Miller-Boyett was part of Lorimar/Warner Brothers. It's so funny that Patrick Duffy went from Dallas to TGIF sitcom Step by Step.

1989/90 ABC launched their TGIF Friday comedy block and it was a 1990s staple. Dallas was not a Top 30 show in its final two seasons but two TGIF comedies were in the Top 30 those seasons: Full House 22nd in 1989/90 and 14th in 1990/91, Family Matters 15th in 1990/91. The Dukes of Hazzard never recovered from the 1982/83 cast switch and it was not a Top 30 show in its final two seasons yet CBS left it at Friday 8 pm. After The Dukes of Hazzard ended, Friday 8 pm was a CBS dead zone for the remainder of Dallas run. The longest-running post-The Dukes of Hazzard lead in was Beauty and the Beast for two seasons.

100% this. Angela Lansbury and Murder, She Wrote deserved to have a proper farewell and not the sabotage that Les Moonves inflicted. He will forever be on my s--- list for that. Angela was sweet and unassuming yet savage at the same time. Her most savage moments IMO: The shade towards the new hotness Miami Vice and proceeding to clean sweep them. Angela was more elegant and classy than savage with her shade though (referring to Miami Vice as Miami Heat). Beating the diva of all divas of 1980s primetime soaps Joan Collins to become the highest-rated drama across the broadcast networks. I was impressed that Joan Collins posted a memoriam to Angela on her social media, that was very classy of her to do so. Becoming CBS's highest-rated scripted show and knocking big bad Larry Hagman off the throne at CBS. The episodes in the final season that shaded both Friends and CBS. Angela did not give a f--- about being elegant and classy with her shade. She was hurt and rightfully so and I don't blame her for reacting the way that she did.

I don't think you're being childish at all. We can't hold 1980s primetime soaps to the same standards that we hold the daytime soaps. Those of us that were spoiled by watching the best of the daytime soaps are going to find flaws in the 1980s primetime soaps from a writing and acting standpoint. The 1980s primetime soaps are very much products of their time and I think its a genre that you've had to have watched in real time in order to appreciate. When you watch them in 2024, you have to have the mindset that they are products of their time and alot of things are not going to hold up well through a 2024 lens.

@Khan The Angela Lansbury and Urkel GIFs are killing me 🤣

November 20, 1987: Miami Vice January 6, 1989: Mr. Belvedere January 13, 1989: Mr. Belvedere March 17, 1989: Mr. Belvedere 1989/90 Friday 9 pm Dallas was usually 2nd to Perfect Strangers. They tied on November 3, 1989 and November 10, 1989 and Dallas won the time slot on November 17, 1989 and December 15, 1989. March 16, 1990 Dallas was 3rd at Friday 9 pm to a repeat of Perfect Strangers and a new episode of Nasty Boys. After the NCAA Basketball break, CBS moved Dallas to Friday 10 pm. March 30-April 13, April 27-May 11, November 2-December 21, 1990 Friday 10 pm Dallas was usually 2nd to 20/20. Dallas won the time slot on November 2, 1990. January 4, 1991 Dallas returned to Friday 9 pm and it remained there until the series finale May 3. It was usually 2nd to Perfect Strangers except for January 4, 1991: 3rd to Perfect Strangers and Night Court January 18, 1991: 3rd to Perfect Strangers and a repeat of Cheers March 8, 1991: 2nd to Family Matters April 26, 1991: 2nd to Family Matters May 3, 1991 (series finale): wins time slot and 2nd for the week. Wow, Dallas near the end got beat twice by Family Matters. I can only imagine how Larry Hagman reacted to that. When Urkel beats you, yeah it's time to go.

As I've pointed before, the decline of Dallas over its final six seasons lines up with the decline of CBS's primetime lineup. CBS primetime lost #1 to NBC in Spring 1986 then dropped to 3rd in Spring 1988 and remained in 3rd until Spring 1991. Angela Lansbury may have been sweet and unassuming, but to me she will forever be savage for knocking big bad Larry Hagman off the throne at CBS. Larry Hagman may have been the reason CBS primetime rode high in the first half of the 1980s, but it was Angela Lansbury that ended up carrying CBS primetime on her back through some pretty awful years from the late 1980s to the mid-1990s.