Everything posted by kalbir
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ALL: End of an Era: Are Daytime Soaps Washing Away?
B&B has been surviving off of international sales for the better part of the last 25 years.
- Y&R: Old Articles
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Ratings from the 1990s
Looking at the big three network's line up of dramas that premiered in the 1990s which ran 5 or more seasons, a good number of them seem to be forgotten. CBS: Walker, Texas Ranger (9); Touched by an Angel (9), JAG (9), Diagnosis: Murder (8), Northern Exposure (6); Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman (6); Chicago Hope (6), Nash Bridges (6), Judging Amy (6). Touched by an Angel was a rare bright spot in the primetime mess era. JAG spun off NCIS, which is now CBS's longest-running primetime drama and there's also the NCIS franchise. ABC: NYPD Blue (12), The Practice (8), The Commish (5). NYPD Blue I would say is the second definitive drama of the 1990s. The Practice didn't really take off until it became the lead out of Millionaire (yes, I consider The Practice a time slot hit). NBC: Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (season 26 about to start), original Law & Order (20), ER (15), Homicide: Life on the Street (7), The West Wing (7), Sisters (6), Third Watch (6), Providence (5). We all consider ER the definitive drama of the 1990s. Original Law & Order and The West Wing were Top 10 shows in the 2000s.
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Y&R September 2024 Discussion Thread
Not to give Josh Griffith an idea, but I thought there would be a Single White Female storyline with Lucy and Faith.
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Dynasty Discussion Thread
Of all the actors that were Blake and Alexis children, these three worked together the longest (1985-1988) and its nice to see them together 35+ years later.
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Knots Landing
@Khan That would have made a good exit story for Joan Van Ark instead of what we got.
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Ratings from the 1990s
Yeah, I never thought of The Simpsons. Mainly because it's animated and on Fox. I can't believe The Simpsons 35th anniversary is in December. I don't think I've watched a live episode of The Simpsons in something like 25 years.
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Ratings from the 1990s
Did the 1990s have a definitive family sitcom? The big ones I'd say were Roseanne, Home Improvement, and maybe Everybody Loves Raymond. Roseanne peak 1990-1993 but that era was 1980s hangover plus the remaining big 1980s family sitcoms (The Cosby Show, Who's the Boss?, Growing Pains) were winding down. Home Improvement peak was 1993-1997 and this overlaps with Roseanne winding down. Everybody Loves Raymond showed growth 1998-2000 and this overlaps with Home Improvement winding down. Everybody Loves Raymond didn't crack the Top 10 until 2000/01 and it was a Top 10 show for the rest of its run so maybe its more associated with the early 2000s. I think most of us consider Seinfeld and Friends as the definitive friendship sitcoms of the 1990s.
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Knots Landing
Well it was the time before HIV.
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Ratings from the 70's
November 3, 1975 The Price is Right expands to 1 hour. The Price is Right moved from 10:30 am ET to 10 am ET, now head-to-head with Celebrity Sweepstakes and Wheel of Fortune. First week at 1 hour its middle of the pack.
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Knots Landing
Then season 5 got corporate with Lotus Point, ventured into James Bond/action thriller territory with Wolfbridge, and also got glamorous. I think going corporate and glamorous was a response to Dynasty blowing up and becoming a pop culture phenomenon. Dallas also got corporate and glamorous.
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Ratings from the 1990s
I would say the other comparable drama series to ER is Dallas. Dallas ran 14 seasons. ER ran 15 seasons. Both shows had three seasons as the #1 show. Dallas 1980/81, 1981/82, 1983/84. ER 1995/96, 1996/97, 1998/99. Dallas was the highest-rated drama across the broadcast networks for 5 seasons (1979/80 to 1983/84). ER was the highest-rated drama across the broadcast networks for 7 seasons (1994/95 to 2000/01). Dallas was a Top 10 show for 7 seasons (1979/80 to 1985/86). ER was a Top 10 show for 10 seasons (1994/95 to 2003/04). Both shows had a breakout star in Larry Hagman and George Clooney respectively. Dallas was Larry Hagman's career resurgence that became his second signature role or some may say his career-defining role. ER was George Clooney's career breakthrough after years of jobbing and it lead to him becoming a Hollywood A-lister.
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Ratings from the 70's
Great, thanks again. The Price is Right 1 hour trial week was mid-range I'd say. CBS scheduled the 1 hour trial week 10:30-11:30 am ET, head-to-head with Wheel of Fortune and High Rollers.
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Ratings from the 70's
The Price is Right going strong. No wonder CBS expanded it to 1 hour. @JAS0N47 Do you have game show ratings for September 8-12, 1975 (The Price is Right 1 hour trial week) and November 3-7, 1975 (The Price is Right expands to 1 hour)? Thanks in advance
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Ratings from the 1990s
George Clooney was the breakout star of ER and ER was his career breakthrough after years of jobbing. In the off-season he starred in movies and when his ER contract was up, he left to focus on his film career. I say it was Oceans Eleven that cemented George Clooney as a Hollywood A-lister. Friends seems like it will live on forever in syndication, DVD, streaming, but ER seems to have been forgotten in those mediums.
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ALL: End of an Era: Are Daytime Soaps Washing Away?
Hahaha, yes.
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Knots Landing
Abby was all about the come up. Even though Abby was considered the villainess, I believe she loved her children and wanted what was best for them.
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Knots Landing
Would we consider Abby the breakout character in the vein of JR and Alexis? I don't think Abby became a pop culture phenomenon like JR and Alexis though.
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Ratings from the 70's
@JAS0N47 Thank you for the answers.
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Ratings from the 70's
Bill Bell also preferred 30 minutes. We know from the 1980s ratings thread that Y&R had a post-expansion slump. I don't know if this was answered earlier, but how long did Bill Bell write for Days after it expanded to 1 hour? Also did Susan Flannery depart from Days around the time it expanded to 1 hour?
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Ratings from the 1990s
ER was the highest-rated drama across the broadcast networks from 1994/95 to 2000/01 and three of those seasons (1995/96, 1996/97, 1998/99) it was the #1 show. ER was the first drama since Dallas to have three seasons as the #1 show. Fun fact, the #1 seasons of Dallas (1980/81, 1981/82, 1983/84) and the #1 seasons of ER are each separated by 15 years. ER 15 season run places it as NBC's third longest-running primetime drama, behind Law & Order: Special Victims Unit and Law & Order. Interestingly all premiered in the 1990s.
- B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
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Ratings from the 1990s
Also Fox became a legitimate network this season, thanks to them getting NFL broadcasting rights and established affiliates in major media markets. As far as Fox programming goes, 1994/95 was the peak season of Melrose Place. I don't hold the Seinfeld/ER/Friends era in high regard. NBC was fortunate that both CBS and ABC had primetime mess eras and that's how they were able to get away with scheduling garbage shows at Thursday 8:30 pm and 9:30 pm that still finished among the Top 10. 1994/95 ABC was good with Home Improvement, Grace Under Fire, NYPD Blue but their one-time biggest hit Roseanne was weakening. ABC fortunes would change with the sale to Disney in 1996 and the start of their primetime mess era. Poor CBS, 1994/95 was the start of another primetime mess era. It was back to Murder, She Wrote being their only hit. It's so funny that Murder, She Wrote premiered in 1984/85, the best and most pivotal season of the 1980s, and was still going in 1994/95, the most pivotal season of the 1990s. CBS primetime mess era would continue with the sale to Westinghouse in 1995 and arrival of Les Moonves.
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
Taking @Khan descriptions above and seeing how they apply to each network's line up of dramas that premiered in the 1980s which had runs of 5 or more seasons. Murder, She Wrote (12); Falcon Crest (9); Magnum, P.I. (8); Simon & Simon (8), Cagney & Lacey (7), Jake and the Fatman (5). I think that description fits this list. Dynasty (9), MacGyver (7), The Fall Guy (5), Hotel (5), Moonlighting (5). Moonlighting seems like the only one that fits this description. Thirtysomething and China Beach fit this description but they got four seasons each. L.A. Law (8), Hill Street Blues (7), Hunter (7), St. Elsewhere (6), Matlock (6), Remington Steele (5), The A-Team (5), Miami Vice (5), Highway to Heaven (5), In the Heat of the Night (5), Quantum Leap (5). I would consider L.A. Law innovative as well.
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Ratings from the 70's
@will81 Thanks for the additional info.