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Y&R in the 9s!

@will81 I was going by the recaps and the earliest mention of Vanessa was June 1976. Thanks for the correct date.

Y&R June 1976 KT Stevens debut as Vanessa Prentiss. I don't know the exact date of her first episode.

Hahaha, you are killing me.

VI return was the same week that JFP was first credited as EP, that's why I count him in the Friend of Jill list. That whole era from the aftermath of Maureen's death to Nancy Curlee leaving the writing team was way too much Buzz, and for me it was a chore to get through. I didn't think much of Mark Derwin's acting when he was on Y&R, so I was surprised that he became so popular on GL. Remember 1993 SOD Awards he got Hottest Male Star over Antonio Sabato Jr. and was nominated for Lead Actor at the 1993 Daytime Emmys.

There were four Friend of Jill incidents: Vincent Irizarry, Justin Deas, Marcy Walker, Marj Dusay. Also Mark Derwin became a Friend of Jill. I've pointed this out before but I was really surprised Alan was not recast w/ a Friend of Jill.

Hahaha I can't believe you're checking for Joshua Morrow. I just can't get past the whole overgrown frat boy persona that's just so ridiculous at his big age. Yeah the story is silly but EB is keeping the show going. I'm not getting the sense that he's phoning it in and riding out his contract just to collect the checks.

@JAS0N47 Thank you for the info re 1976 pre-emptions. Looking back in this thread, that means 1977 was the first year CBS had pre-emptions for US Open tennis. Also from this thread, Christmas 1979 was the first CBS pre-emption for an NBA game. CBS last pre-emption for an NBA game was Memorial Day 1990.

GL's 1980s revolving door of HWs December 1979: Douglas Marland October 1982: Pat Falken Smith November 1982: L. Virginia Browne February 1983: Richard Culliton and Pamela Long September 1983: Pamela Long January 1986: Jeff Ryder February 1986: Jeff Ryder and Mary Ryan Munisteri September 1986: Mary Ryan Munisteri and Ellen Barrett October 1986: Joseph Manetta November 1986: Joseph Manetta and Sheri Anderson July 1987: Pamela Long January 1991: Nancy Curlee As the World Turns also had a revolving door of HWs in the first half of the 1980s December 1979: Jerome and Bridget Dobson April 1981: Paul Roberts August 1981: Tom King and K.C. Collier January 1982: Jerome and Bridget Dobson May 1983: Carolyn Franz and John Saffron December 1983: John Saffron and Tom King April 1984: Tom King and Millee Taggart November 1984: Cynthia Benjamin and Susan Bedsow Horgan February 1985: Susan Bedsow Horgan September 1985-March 1993: Douglas Marland

I was not aware of Dinah Shore talk show. Thank you. So the main 1970s talk shows were Merv Griffin, Mike Douglas, Donahue, Dinah Shore. Dinah Shore ended in 1980, Mike Douglas ended in 1981, Merv Griffin ended in 1986, and Donahue ended in 1996. Oddly enough, Merv Griffin last episode was Friday September 5, 1986 and the following Monday (September 8, 1986) Oprah went national.

I noticed ABC had no pre-emptions in February for Innsbruck Winter Olympics and CBS had no pre-emptions in April and May for NBA playoffs. We might see ABC pre-emptions in July for Montreal Summer Olympics and CBS pre-emptions in September for US Open tennis.

They all passed relatively close to each other: William Roerick in November 1995. Larry Gates in December 1996. Vince Williams in January 1997.

With Bad Boys: Ride or Die a week away, I was reminded of the first Bad Boys soundtrack

B&B has been a lost cause for the last 20-25 years. We all know Bradley did not inherit his father's talent. If we're keeping it real here, it should have ended with Susan Flannery retirement.

2 anniversaries this month: Bryton James 20th and Joshua Morrow 30th.

1976 recaps in this thread starting on page 18

I don't blame Tonya Lee Williams for not wanting to come back to Y&R after the way she was unceremoniously dumped in 2005.

I am getting a Summer 1984 vibe from this

I remember you once said you liked the modern-day western era more than the corporate and glamorous era. Even though Dallas was a family/business conflict-based show, it had the heart and roots of a western.

Not to derail the thread, but what were the big talk shows pre-Oprah? Merv Griffin, Mike Douglas, Donahue, Hour Magazine, Sally Jessy Raphael are main ones I can think of.

Dallas got more glamorous in 1984/85 in an attempt to compete w/ Dynasty. Miss Ellie was not meant to be a glamorous character even though she was a wealthy matriarch. Her roots were that of a rancher's daughter and that was reflected in her original styling.

Hahaha, love this!

Do you think recasting Miss Ellie played a part in Dallas losing #1 in 1984/85? Barbara Bel Geddes health issues are documented (heart condition and death from lung cancer) but I wonder if her 1984 departure might have been a contract negotiation that went wrong. Her 1990 departure was reported as retirement due to health, but I say salary dump. Yes, Barbara didn't act again after 1990 but if we go by the timeline of her final Dallas episode she lived another 15 years.

@Paul Raven January 1976, Ryan's Hope was only 6 months into its run.

@JAS0N47 Thank you for the additional information re 1977.