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Beverlee McKinsey not being nominated for her work on GL is the most egregious error by the Daytime Emmys. She could have easily won multiple Emmys, especially in the early 1990s when the Lead Actress races I thought were rather weak. I already pointed out Michael Zaslow deserving more Lead Actor wins than the one he got. Also Maureen Garrett had three nominations for Supporting Actress but the years she was nominated (1991, 1992, 1994) those races were tough. GL did pull off the biggest upset in Daytime Emmy history with Cynthia Watros winning Lead Actress in 1998, in the sense that a rookie beat four 15+ year veterans.

I didn't think much of Mark Derwin acting when he was on Y&R so I was surprised he became so popular on GL, first winning Hottest Male Star at the 1993 SOD Awards over Antonio Sabato Jr. and Robert Kelker-Kelly, then being nominated for Lead Actor at the Daytime Emmys that same year. We know Mark Derwin became a Friend of Jill as she brought him on One Life to Life.

Michael Zaslow got his only Lead Actor Emmy in 1994 and was nominated in 1992, 1993, 1995. He deserved more wins than the one he got. These were the 1992-1994 races 1992: Peter Bergman (winner), David Canary, Nicolas Coster, A Martinez, Michael Zaslow 1993: Peter Bergman, David Canary (winner), Mark Derwin, A Martinez, Robert S. Woods, Michael Zaslow 1994: Peter Bergman, Charles Keating, Peter Simon, Robert S. Woods, Michael Zaslow (winner) It was speculated that P&G did not submit very good episodes for MZ in 1992 and 1993, thus the losses. I would have had him win in 1992 for the country club episodes and for the episode where Roger tells Holly that he still loves her. I also think he should have been nominated and possibly win in 1991 for the Acapulco episodes.

JFP stepped up her block voting game during Santa Barbara 1988-1990 Emmy run and by the time she got to GL she had the block voting game on lock.

Y&R big events: St. Thomas remote. Rick kidnaps Blade and switches identities. John and Mamie kiss. B&B big event: James learning Princess Laila is an alive Taylor. Y&R big events: John and Jill custody trial for Billy starts. Jill and Katherine fight at the courthouse. Y&R big events: Blade makes his way back to Genoa City. Ashley sees Blade and Rick together and is stunned by the resemblance. Ashley and Blade leave Genoa City for a brief trip (exit for Brenda Epperson pregnancy leave). B&B big events: Taylor has returned to Los Angeles but only James and Jack know that she's alive. Taylor makes disguised visits to an injured Ridge in the hospital. Sheila and Lauren jacuzzi fight. Lauren tells James about her past with Sheila. James is kidnapped and imprisoned by Sheila.

1984 wasn't broadcast. Justin Deas was present at the 1994 ceremony but absent from the 1988, 1989, 1995, 1997 ceremonies.

December 4, 1986 L.A. Law first episode head-to-head w/ Knots Landing and that L.A. Law episode was Jeanne Cooper's first appearance as Gladys Becker. I see what you did there NBC, you're not fooling me.

L.A. Law final three seasons overlaps w/ NBC in a brief primetime mess era. Remember almost all their big 1980s shows were winding down in that time: The Cosby Show, The Golden Girls, Matlock NBC run, In the Heat of the Night NBC run, Night Court ended Spring 1992. Cheers and A Different World ended Spring 1993. L.A. Law ended Spring 1994.

The Coopers were introduced in the Willmore/Long era w/ Harley, Frank, Nadine and expanded in the Calhoun/Curlee era w/ Stavros and Eleni, but it was under JFP's watch that Buzz arrived and the Coopers were elevated to a main family. JFP clearly wanted a showcase for her friend Justin Deas, and under her watch he got back-to-back Emmys. These were the Emmy races. 1994 Supporting Actor: Ian Buchanan, Thom Christopher, Justin Deas (winner), Patrick Tovatt, Jerry verDorn 1995 Lead Actor: Peter Bergman, David Canary, Justin Deas (winner), Brad Maule, Michael Zaslow Neither race seems highly competitive to me, but were the wins deserved?

EB's Twitter rants give me life.

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at CBS and Lorimar when Murder, She Wrote beat Dallas in the weekly ratings for the first time. The last thing they probably expected to happen was sweet unassuming Angela Lansbury taking down big bad Larry Hagman. I can only imagine how Larry Hagman reacted to being taken down by Angela Lansbury.

Heading into Fall 1984, Dallas had it's third season as the #1 show but it was being threatened by Dynasty. 1984/85 was expected to be the biggest Dallas vs. Dynasty battle ever, but little did we know that a rookie hit was waiting in the wings to blow up and another rookie hit was waiting in the wings to shock the world. I divide 1984/85 into two parts, pre-Super Bowl and post-Super Bowl. Pre-Super Bowl September 28, 1984: Killer at Large (season 8 premiere), rating 26.4, #1. The Cosby Show (September 27: Goodbye, Mr. Fish (episode 2), rating 22.5) was 3rd, Dynasty (September 26: Disappearance (season 5 premiere), rating 22.2) was 4th; and Murder, She Wrote (September 30: The Murder of Sherlock Holmes (series premiere), rating 18.9) was 9th. October 5, 1984: Battle Lines, rating 24.7, #1. The Cosby Show (October 4: Bad Dreams (episode 3), rating 21.9) was 5th; and Murder, She Wrote (October 7: Deadly Lady (episode 2), rating 20.3) was 9th. No Dynasty on October 3. October 12, 1984: If at First You Don’t Succeed, rating 24.0, 7th for the week. Finished ahead of The Cosby Show (October 11: Is that My Boy? (episode 4), rating 20.6, 9th); and Murder, She Wrote (October 14: Birds of a Feather (episode 3), rating 19.4, 12th). Dynasty (October 10: The Mortgage, rating 25.1) was 5th. October 19, 1984: Jamie, rating 24.6, 2nd for the week. Finished ahead of The Cosby Show (October 18: A Shirt Story (episode 5), rating 21.3, 7th). Dynasty (October 17: Fallon, rating 26.1) was #1. No Murder, She Wrote on October 21. October 26, 1984: Family, rating 25.9, 2nd for the week. Finished ahead of The Cosby Show (October 25: Breaking with Tradition (episode 6), rating 21.2, 8th); and Murder, She Wrote (October 28: Hooray for Homicide (episode 4), rating 19.7, 15th). Dynasty (October 24: The Rescue, rating 26.3) was #1. November 2, 1984: Shadow of Doubt, rating 27.1, #1. Dynasty (October 31: The Trial, rating 24.9) was 2nd, The Cosby Show (November 1: One More Time (episode 7), rating 20.0) was 8th; and Murder, She Wrote (November 4: It’s a Dog’s Life (episode 5), rating 16.9) was 23rd. November 9, 1984: Homecoming, rating 26.2, #1. Dynasty (November 7: The Verdict, rating 25.7) was 2nd and The Cosby Show (November 8: Play it Again, Vanessa (episode 8), rating 21.2) was 7th. No Murder, She Wrote on November 11. November 16, 1984: Oil Barons Ball III, rating 26.5, 2nd for the week. Finished ahead of Dynasty (November 14: Amanda, rating 23.5, 5th), The Cosby Show (November 15: How Ugly is He? (episode 9), rating 22.5, 6th); and Murder, She Wrote (November 18: Lovers and Other Killers (episode 6), rating 19.1, 16th). November 23, 1984: Shadows, rating 22.6, 5th for the week. Finished ahead of Murder, She Wrote (November 25: Hit, Run and Homicide (episode 7), rating 19.7, 9th); and The Cosby Show (November 22: Bonjour Sondra (episode 10), rating 16.7, 18th). Dynasty (November 21: The Secret, rating 24.3) was 3rd. November 30, 1984: Charlie, rating 25.9, 2nd for the week. Finished ahead of Dynasty (November 28: Domestic Intrigue, rating 25.2, 3rd). The Cosby Show was a repeat on November 29. No Murder, She Wrote on December 2. December 7, 1984: Barbecue Five, rating 24.7, 3rd for the week. Finished ahead of The Cosby Show (December 6: You’re Not a Mother Night (episode 11), rating 23.1, 4th); and Murder, She Wrote (December 9: We’re Off to Kill the Wizard (episode 8), rating 22.3, 6th). Dynasty (December 5: Krystina, rating 25.3) was #1. December 14, 1984: Do You Take This Woman, rating 25.2, 2nd for the week. Finished ahead of The Cosby Show (December 13: Rudy’s Sick (episode 12), rating 21.3, 6th); and Murder, She Wrote (December 16: Death Takes a Curtain Call (episode 9), rating 16.2, 30th). Dynasty (December 12: Swept Away, rating 26.5) was #1. December 21, 1984: Déjà Vu, rating 23.0, 4th for the week. Finished ahead of The Cosby Show (December 20: Father’s Day (episode 13), rating 21.7, 6th). Dynasty (December 19: That Holiday Spirit, rating 25.9) was #1. Murder, She Wrote was a repeat on December 23. December 28, 1984: Odd Man Out, rating 24.5, #1. Murder, She Wrote (December 30: Death Casts a Spell (episode 10), rating 22.3) was 6th. No Dynasty on December 26. The Cosby Show was a repeat on December 27. January 4, 1985: Lockup in Laredo, rating 26.3, 3rd for the week. Finished ahead of Dynasty (January 2: The Avenger, rating 26.2, 4th); and Murder, She Wrote (January 6: Capitol Offense (episode 11), rating 22.4, 9th). The Cosby Show was a repeat on January 3. January 11, 1985: Winds of War, rating 27.8 (season high), #1. Dynasty (January 9: The Will, rating 27.7 (season high)) was 2nd, The Cosby Show (January 10: Independence Day (episode 14), rating 25.4) was 3rd; and Murder, She Wrote (January 13: Broadway Malady (episode 12), rating 21.8) was 7th. January 18, 1985: Pre-empted for Any Which Way You Can. The Cosby Show (January 17: Physician of the Year (episode 15), rating 27.9) was 3rd and Dynasty (January 16: The Treasure, rating 27.0) was 4th. Murder, She Wrote was a repeat on January 20. On a win/loss basis, Dallas pre-Super Bowl was 7-7 vs. Dynasty, 13-0 vs. new episodes of The Cosby Show, and 12-0 vs. new episodes of Murder, She Wrote. Dallas pre-Super Bowl 16 episodes average was 25.3. Dynasty pre-Super Bowl 15 episodes average was 25.5. Although Dallas and Dynasty had split their head-to-head matchups so far, Dynasty was barely winning the battle based on the episode average. Post-Super Bowl January 25, 1985: Bail Out, rating 26.1, #1. Dynasty (January 23: Foreign Relations, rating 25.0) was 3rd. The Cosby Show was a repeat on January 24. No Murder, She Wrote on January 27. February 1, 1985: Legacy of Hate, rating 26.2, 3rd for the week. Finished ahead of Murder, She Wrote (February 3: Murder to a Jazz Beat (episode 13), rating 22.0, 11th). The Cosby Show (January 31: Jitterbug Break (episode 16), rating 27.8) was #1 and Dynasty (January 30: Triangles, rating 27.0) was 2nd. February 8, 1985: Sins of the Fathers, rating 25.0, 4th for the week. Finished ahead of Murder, She Wrote (February 10: My Johnny Lies Over the Ocean (episode 14), rating 19.9, 16th). The Cosby Show (February 7: Theo and the Joint (episode 17), rating 26.1) was #1 and Dynasty (February 6: The Ball, rating 25.9) was 2nd. February 15, 1985: The Brothers Ewing, rating 25.0, 2nd for the week. Finished ahead of Dynasty (February 13: Circumstantial Evidence, rating 23.4, 5th) and Murder, She Wrote (February 17: Paint Me a Murder (episode 15), rating 20.5, 13th). The Cosby Show (February 14: Vanessa’s New Class (episode 18), rating 26.6) was #1. February 22, 1985: Shattered Dreams, rating 25.8, #1. The Cosby Show (February 21: Clair’s Case (episode 19), rating 25.1) was 3rd, Dynasty (February 20: The Collapse, rating 24.6) was 4th; and Murder, She Wrote (February 24, 1985: Tough Guys Don't Die (episode 16), rating 21.7) was 11th. March 1, 1985 (10-11 pm): Dead Ends, rating 22.6, 7th for the week. Finished ahead of Murder, She Wrote (March 3: Sudden Death (episode 17), rating 21.6, 9th). The Cosby Show (February 28: Back to the Track, Jack (episode 20), rating 27.0) was #1 and Dynasty (February 27: Life and Death, rating 24.8) was 2nd. March 8, 1985: Trial & Error, rating 22.4, 6th for the week. Finished ahead of Murder, She Wrote (March 10: Footnote to Murder (episode 18), rating 19.7, 12th). Dynasty (March 6: Parental Consent, rating 24.0) was 3rd. The Cosby Show was a repeat on March 7. March 15, 1985: The Verdict, rating 22.7, 5th for the week. Finished ahead of Murder, She Wrote (March 17: Murder Takes the Bus (episode 19), rating 22.4, 6th). The Cosby Show (March 14: The Younger Woman (episode 21), rating 28.3) was #1 and Dynasty (March 13: Photo Finish, rating 24.2) was 2nd. March 22, 1985: Pre-empted for NCAA Basketball. Dynasty (March 20: The Crash, rating 22.6) was 3rd. The Cosby Show was a repeat on March 21. Murder, She Wrote was a repeat on March 24. March 29, 1985: Sentences, rating 23.0, 6th for the week. Finished ahead of Murder, She Wrote (March 31: Armed Response (episode 20), rating 21.2, 10th). The Cosby Show (March 28: The Slumber Party (episode 22), rating 30.1 (season high)) was #1 and Dynasty (March 27: Reconciliation, rating 23.1) was 5th. April 5, 1985: Pre-empted for Stormin’ Home. Dynasty (April 3: Sammy Jo, rating 23.1) was 3rd and Murder, She Wrote (April 7: Murder at the Oasis (episode 21), rating 20.4) was 5th. No The Cosby Show on April 4. April 12, 1985: Terms of Estrangement, rating 22.1, 6th for the week. Dynasty (April 10: Kidnap, rating 24.5) was 2nd. The Cosby Show was a repeat on April 11. No Murder, She Wrote on April 14. April 19, 1985: The Ewing Connection, rating 21.1, 5th for the week. Murder, She Wrote (April 21: Funeral at Fifty-Mile (season 1 finale), rating 24.5 (season high)) was 2nd. No Dynasty on April 17. The Cosby Show was a repeat on April 18. April 26, 1985: Pre-empted for Arthur the King. No Dynasty on April 24. The Cosby Show was a repeat on April 25. May 3, 1985: Deeds and Misdeeds, rating 21.4, 3rd for the week. The Cosby Show (May 2: Mr. Quiet (episode 23), rating 25.5) was #1. No Dynasty on May 1. May 10, 1985: Deliverance, rating 22.6, 2nd for the week. Finished ahead of Dynasty (May 8: The Heiress, rating 21.9, 3rd). The Cosby Show (May 9: Cliff’s Birthday (season 1 finale), rating 24.1) was #1. May 17, 1985 (8:30-10 pm): Swan Song (season 8 finale), rating 27.5, #1. Dynasty (May 15: Royal Wedding (season 5 finale), rating 25.9) was 2nd. On a win/loss basis, Dallas post-Super Bowl was 5-7 vs. Dynasty, 1-8 vs. new episodes of The Cosby Show, and 8-1 vs. new episodes of Murder, She Wrote. Dallas post-Super Bowl 14 episodes average was 23.8. Dynasty post-Super Bowl 14 episodes average was 24.3. We can see the ratings drop starting March 1985. At the end of the season, Dynasty was #1, Dallas was 2nd, The Cosby Show was 3rd; and Murder, She Wrote was 8th.

Lets keep it real here. The P&G shows were not in a good place creatively in June 1994 and they were effectively over in the aftermath of OJ.

Once again, EB is keeping it way too real.

June 1994 the frat party started. Fall 1994 was the start of Nick and Sharon eating the show for the next year and half. Blade/Rick began Summer 1994. January 1995 Rick kidnapped Blade and switched identities.

That whole era from the aftermath of Maureen's death to Nancy Curlee leaving the writing team was a chore to get through. Way too much Buzz.

I saw part of Barbara Crampton run online and she didn't work for me as Mindy. I kept seeing her as her Y&R character Leanna. She was also about 5 years too old for the role. Were there any Friends of Jill that were in contention for Mindy in 1993?

Thanks for starting this thread @Soapsuds. I'll be following basketball and maybe track and field.

B&B starts tanking to me in the second half of 1995. From the annual ratings, 1995/96 All My Children loses 2nd to Days and B&B finishes ahead of All My Children.

What to watch for in 1995. Reilly Days blows up and begins to threaten Y&R dominance. Guiding Light enters cancel territory. Loving ends and The City premieres. OJ. CBS sold to Westinghouse and hello Les Moonves. ABC in the process of being sold to Disney. P&G shows all get new EPs.

Great recap @Vee . Dallas tanks for me this season, and it wasn't helped by the it was all a dream resolution. As we all know, Newhart and The Simpsons paid homage to it was all a dream.

Maybe someone at NBC Daytime had beef w/ Bill Bell.

Y&R: Rex death. Phyllis crashes Rex's memorial. Michelle Stafford chose one of her scenes from the Rex memorial episodes as part of the Y&R 50th anniversary memorable moments clip set. Y&R this week: Phyllis attempts to murder Christine. We saw this episode during the classics.

CBS Summer Playhouse, 1987-1989.

@Khan Thank you for the reply re The Cosby Show/Charlie & Co. I've pointed this out before but I think 1985/86 was the turning point season of the 1980s. Escapist shows like the primetime soaps and the big action shows were out, shows that gave comfort and warmth were in. Look at what two of the biggest hits that season were: sophomore surprise Murder, She Wrote and rookie breakout The Golden Girls. Even though both shows main characters were women over 50, the shows appealed to viewers of all walks of life. I pinpoint 1986 as the year s--- got real (AIDS crisis, Space Shuttle Challenger, Chernobyl) and with the world around us changing so much, television viewers sought comfort and warmth.