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Tamara Tunie is rocking the s--- out of her gray hair. She's serving up messy matriarch/grande dame fierceness.

@Taoboi Did Sean Dominic have a glow up that I somehow did not recognize?

Sounds about right. For me it was John Abbott death that marked the end of Y&R as we knew it. Are you checking for Nate now?

Recent talk in the Y&R Old Articles thread about Brenda Epperson run as Ashley has me thinking of a similar situation at B&B in that same era. Hunter Tylo pretty much replaced Joanna Johnson so I wonder if Ronn Moss had any issues working with HT around 1990 and 1991. Bill Bell saw that RM and HT connected on-screen so original Ridge/Taylor worked. AFAIK there was nothing in the soap press in the early 1990s re RM/HT working relationship.

There are some 1989 scenes of EB and BE that came across as a chemistry test but I felt there was no connection which is why I always wondered why Bill Bell revisited Victor/Ashley w/ BE in the role. BE was a serviceable recast but her main storylines (Ashley/Brad/Traci triangle, Victor marriage/divorce, Blade/Rick) didn't really work.

1986/87 was on the whole not a very memorable season. Amen, Matlock, L.A. Law, ALF were the main new shows I remember, but they weren't exactly breakout hits. NBC Thursday continued their domination from 1985/86. Other strong nights were CBS Sunday, NBC Saturday, ABC Tuesday. NBC had a historical night January 22, 1987 where The Cosby Show and Family Ties each had their series high and Cheers had their series high until the series finale. Pivotal events for CBS were Murder, She Wrote having their only #1 episode (Night of the Headless Horseman) and their series high (Simon Says, Color Me Dead), and Dallas falling out of the Top 10. It was a sign of things to come. ABC saw the further weakening of the Aaron Spelling hit factory (Dynasty fell out of the Top 10, Hotel fell out of the Top 30, The Colbys was cancelled) but Tuesday made a comeback with Who's the Boss, Growing Pains, Moonlighting all finishing in the Top 10.

July 10-14, 1989 also had other storylines. July 17, 1989 whole episode was the wedding.

Re: Noah, he was SORASed in 2008 or 2009 but he hasn't had any story of relevance since.

Thanks for the info.

Thanks @JAS0N47 for the 1980s specials. Will you be compiling specials in the 1990s thread?

Joshua Morrow birthdate February 8, 1974. Jason Thompson birthdate November 20, 1976.

No crossovers please. It's not the first half of the 1990s when Y&R/B&B both had Bill Bell at the helm.

Hahaha, dead. Funny thing is, Jason Thompson is 2 years younger than Joshua Morrow.

Here's what happened on the soaps and two rookie hits the week of February 4-10, 1985. The Cosby Show - Theo and the Joint (episode 17, February 7, rating 26.1, #1): Theo searches for the culprit who put marijuana in his schoolbook. Dynasty - The Ball (February 6, rating 25.9, 2nd): Alexis attempts to persuade the head of the Chinese delegation to hire Colbyco. Blake is surprised that Lady Ashley is an Acapulco. Amanda has a romantic fling with Prince Michael of Moldavia. Dallas - Sins of the Fathers (February 8, rating 25.0, 4th): Cliff gets an injunction, but victory is short-lived. Pam learns Mark may be in Hong Kong. Lucy and Eddie's construction project starts. Knots Landing - Fly Away Home (February 7, rating 21.9, 10th): Ben has a flat tire on the road to Empire Valley. A truck with radio receivers stops to help him. Ben takes one of the receivers and tells Mac that he thinks that Empire Valley is only a cover for something bigger. Falcon Crest - Retribution (February 8, rating 20.3, 13th): Angela's kidnapping results in a meeting with Julia. Chase risks all to save Julia. Gustav finally finds the Falcon Crest treasure. This episode of Falcon Crest is notable in that it would be the last episode to finish ahead of a new episode of Murder, She Wrote. Murder, She Wrote - My Johnny Lies Over the Ocean (episode 14, February 10, rating 19.9, 16th): Jessica goes on a cruise with her friend Pamela, who has just been released from a sanatorium where she was recovering from the suicide of her husband Johnny. However, on board the ship Pamela is the victim of a terror campaign, and then another passenger is found dead.

For whatever reason, CBS decided not to tank job The Dukes of Hazzard but in the mid-1980s they did tank job other 1970s holdovers The Jeffersons, Alice; Trapper John, M.D.; and possibly One Day at a Time.

It's unfortunate that so little of the Potter/Dobsons era has surfaced. I've accepted we'll probably never see 1976-1978. All in all, the two bright spots in GL's final 35 years would be 1976-1982 Potter/Dobsons/Marland and 1989-1991 Calhoun/Long/Curlee.

Bill Bell started losing interest in the Abbotts around 1987 when Traci role was reduced. Then came the Ashley and Jack recasts which threw off the balance in the family. To me, BE Ashley and PB Jack are separate characters from ED original recipe Ashley and TL Jack. Considering Traci role was reduced, there were times it felt that Bill Bell wrote BE Ashley like she was both Abbott daughters as one character.

So the best era of the 1970s would have been 1976-1979 Potter/Dobsons then?

I guess CBS logic was Dallas is our biggest hit scripted show and The Dukes of Hazzard and Dallas both appealed to the same audience. I think 1983/84 The Mississippi might have worked at Friday 8 pm, but then that could have lead to The Dukes of Hazzard getting tank jobbed at Tuesday 8 pm vs. The A-Team.

@TEdgeofNight Thanks for the info. The Dukes of Hazzard series finale was last in the time slot. CBS did promote the episode as a series finale (at 19:38).

Sheryl Underwood was a big Y&R fan and she always showed love to the current/former Y&R cast members that appeared on The Talk. She got all excited whenever Eric Braeden or Shemar Moore would show up. Y&R squandered Loren Lott talent. I was happy that she moved on to better things.

You're welcome @Khan It was the combination of EB acting and Bill Bell writing that made Victor character arc a success. We saw Victor go from short-term villain to anti-hero/romantic leading man plus the backstory of his painful childhood (abandoned by both parents and growing up in an orphanage) and becoming a self-made man. EB breaks down Victor as a character in this interview. Eric Braeden Celebrates His 40th Anniversary On The Young And The Restless | The man 👊 The icon 🌟 The only 🙌 Learn more about the man who made Victor Newman who he is today, and don’t miss a special tribute to Eric Braeden’s 40... | By The Young and the Restless | Facebook

1991 EB interview. Not sure if this was posted before. #TBT - Eric Braeden - Soap Opera Digest

OMG Clarence is a name I have not read in like decades. I loved his promos BITD. CBS had the best promos in the 1980s and 1990s. This is the GOAT CBS daytime promo and the yardstick to which all CBS daytime promos are measured. It's hard to believe that its been almost 40 years.

It's difficult to think of anything positive JFP did at any show. I recognize that she stepped up her Emmy block voting game at Santa Barbara and by the time she got to Guiding Light, JFP had the Emmy block voting game on lock. I also recognize that her first year at Guiding Light she got the ratings up but to me she was coasting off the groundwork laid during Robert Calhoun's run. It also helped that the ABC big three were tanking at various times during that year and Days was in their post-supercouple/pre-Reilly mess era.