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Same here.

Another bible to add: Coming of Age.

Y&R from the beginning As the World Turns 1985-1993 that aren't online Guiding Light 1976-1980 Bill Bell Days 1970s/1980s/1990s SOD

2006 onward are not classic years. I consider John Abbott death the end of Y&R as we knew it.

I didn't know GL was broadcast in Spain. Have any Spain broadcasts turned up online? I've seen broadcasts from Germany, Italy, Iceland online.

William Devane did not get love interests 20 or more years younger until Nicollette Sheridan and Lar Park Lincoln. That's nothing, especially when compared to Dallas and the numerous love interests Larry Hagman had that were 20 or more years younger. In 1992 Ted Shackelford was 46 and Stacy Galina was 26 and the age difference was apparent.

I didn't like Bill Bell having BE Ashley and Traci as romantic rivals. When the Abbott daughters were introduced, it was shown that Ashley looked out for Traci and was protective of her. Bill Bell kept ED original recipe Ashley and Traci in separate orbits as far as their romances and romantic rivalries went (Ashley/Victor/Nikki, Traci/Danny/Lauren, Traci/Brad/Lauren). Keeping it real here, Bill Bell probably realized that Don Diamont was no match acting-wise for ED so that's why he had Brad original storyline pursue Traci and not Ashley. With the way Bill Bell wrote BE Ashley plus Traci role being reduced, BE Ashley seemed like she was both Abbott daughters as one character.

@dragonflies Thank you for the link. Beth Maitland is a treasure and Traci really is the heart of the Abbott family. I'm so glad that Traci finally has long-deserved happiness in her life.

1984/85 Simon & Simon got weakened when Cheers started showing growth. 1985/86 Simon & Simon got clobbered by Cheers. 1986/87 the ill-fated move to Thursday 8 pm where it would be DOA vs. The Cosby Show and despite the return to Thursday 9 pm the damage was already done and was effectively over the end of the season. 1987/88 short season with a late start. 1988/89 the move to Saturday 9 pm and a short final season.

@Broderick I think Bill Bell began losing interest in the Abbotts around 1987. First Traci role was reduced, then the Ashley and Jack recasts threw off the balance in the family. For whatever reason Bill Bell kept the Abbotts instead of replacing them with a new family.

I say when ED left in 1988, Ashley was the #3 female, behind Cricket and Nikki. Remember too that ED departure and MTS pregnancy leave overlapped. 1989 was the wonky year with the females, with Bill Bell's new pet Cassandra becoming the #2 female after Cricket, BE Ashley floundering until the Brad/Traci/Ashley triangle, and Nikki floundering from MTS return until the storyline with PB Jack began. Hahaha. Dead.

Agree. Brenda Epperson left December 1995. Shari Shattuck arrived March 1996. That's why Bill Bell didn't give us a Victor/Nikki/Brad/Ashley quad and instead put Christine in the Ashley role. Could you imagine Nikki confronting Shari Shattuck Ashley in the hospital when Victor got shot?

That pretty much describes first half of 1997. Bill Bell's second worst nepotism. That casting derailed a potential Victor/Nikki/Brad/Ashley quad and none of the subsequent storylines worked.

1984/85 Magnum, P.I. got weakened by The Cosby Show. 1985/86 Magnum, P.I. got slaughtered by The Cosby Show and was effectively over at the end of the season. 1986/87 CBS moved Magnum, P.I. to Wednesday 9 pm but that didn't help. 1987/88 Magnum, P.I. got a definitive final season with a proper ending.

@soapfan770 1986/87 was a sign of things to come for CBS. Murder, She Wrote their only scripted show to finish in the Top 10. Dallas fell out of the Top 10. The rest of the dramas were either aging or not showing growth. Still struggling with sitcoms.

I'd say yes. Broderick you are killing me 🤣

The final three seasons of the 1980s were overall not very good. 1987/88 Nielsen people meters wreaked havoc. 1988/89 after effects of the writer's strike and changing times. 1989/90 was probably the worst primetime television season of the 1980s.

Tyrone could have been another go-to lawyer in town and Jazz could have been a restaurant/night club owner. I don't think the Jackson brothers got a proper exit storyline.

Thank you @Maxim and happy holidays to you as well.

Corrected that for you

So your mom stopped watching in the aftermath of Bobby's car accident, but then stopped again after it was all a dream?

Season 9 had a Christmas episode, A Christmas Secret.

I'm seeing elements of two future Bill Bell storylines. B&B Thorne shooting Ridge in the aftermath of finding out that Ridge and Caroline became involved and then not remembering, and Y&R Victor meeting Hope in Kansas.

Knots Landing was effectively over with Abby departure. The final five seasons were a chore to get through. I feel the final four seasons happened because CBS was in their third place primetime mess era.

@soapfan770 Thank you for the holiday greetings and same to you. Happy holidays everyone. Stay safe 🤗