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Both were born on screen, Scotty in March 1991 and Colleen in February 1992. Y&R did not do a good job in building the next generation. I think inconsistent SORASing played a big part in that.

I think sometime between 1993 and 1996 Beth Maitland had her daughter. I don't think Beth was pregnant in real life when Traci was pregnant with Colleen.

@BoldRestless Jeanne Cooper's birth date is October 25, 1928 so she was 45 when she started on Y&R in late 1973 and 55 when she had the facelift in early 1984. Compare how Jeanne looked in that age range to current female cast members in that age range, ie. Amelia Heinle (47), Sharon Case (49), Lauralee Bell (52 in December), Michelle Stafford (55), and holy difference. Same goes for the males. Eric Braeden (born April 3, 1941) was 38 when he started on Y&R in February 1980 and was 48 at the end of the 1980s. Compare how Eric looked in the 1980s to current male cast members in that age range, ie. Jordi Vilasuso (39), Donny Boaz (40 in December), Greg Rikaart (43), Jason Thompson (44 in November), Joshua Morrow (46), and once again holy difference. 1970s/1980s styling I think played a big part in why those in 40s and 50s looked so much older than what we're used to seeing those in their 40s and 50s look like in 2020.

I've finished the 1980s clips and I'm having withdrawals 😂 Is it wrong that I skipped all the Cricket scenes 🤣 From the 1988 clips/full episodes, Nikki's pregnancy with Nicholas must have been the longest pregnancy on daytime. Nikki becomes pregnant in January and learns about it in May. Victor notices Nikki's weight gain in June and finds out about the pregnancy shortly after. Nikki leaves town in November and returns with baby Nicholas in January 1989.

You were spared 2006 onward which are not classics.

Wow, Italy was airing 1981 episodes in 1985. It's possible that Italy's run began with the 1 hour episodes.

It seems like alot of countries that air Y&R started with 1986 episodes. Besides Canada, Australia, and maybe New Zealand, did any other countries get Y&R episodes from earlier than 1986?

So Israel started w/ Fall 1988 episodes then? What year was Y&R first broadcast in Israel? The 1988 clips were January-March. The pivotal moment in that clip set is Victor's devastation over Ashley's marriage to Steven which leads to Victor getting drunk and turning to Nikki, resulting in Nikki becoming pregnant with Nicholas. The main non-Cricket 1988 stories I remember were Katherine and Rex's marriage, Chance's birth, Ruthless publication, Paul becomes involved with Cassandra, Victor and Nikki divorce, Steven's death, Brad in a cage, Nicholas's birth. Also the second of the big three late 1980s recasts when Eileen Davidson left and was replaced with Brenda Epperson.

Whomever that person is, they should be knighted by the Queen.

@Broderick @yrfan1983 @titan1978 Had Bill Bell kept Amy, we might not have gotten Dru and Olivia.

Besides Cricket eating the show, there was Ashley's breakdown after aborting Victor's baby, Nikki's recovery from her illness that she hid from Victor, Katherine and Jill's custody battle over Phillip, Nina becomes pregnant with Chance, Paul and Lauren divorce, Lauren becomes involved with Brad, Jill hires Rex to woo Katherine; I think that covers the main non-Cricket 1987 stories. November 1986 had the EP change from H. Wesley Kenney to Ed Scott and June 1987 was the first of the big three late 1980s recasts when Brenda Dickson was fired and replaced with Jess Walton. There was also what seems to be a slight cast purge during the second half of 1986 to through 1987, with the departures of Marla Adams, Colleen Casey, Alex Donnelly, Steven Ford, Lauren Koslow, Julianna McCarthy, Phil Morris, Robert Parucha, Jon St. Elwood, James Storm, Stephanie Williams. I wonder how much of it was Bill Bell running out of story for the characters and how much of it was Ed Scott doing some house cleaning.

@BroderickAlso Lauren Koslow and Nick Schillace. They are still together AFAIK.

Ed Scott took over as EP in November 1986 and it wasn't long after that all the reported BTS drama w/ BD began. One has to wonder how much of it was BD and how much of it was ES. Remember the early years of ES as EP (1986-1989) also had Cricket eating the show and the departures of ED and TL. Yes, I know Y&R reached #1 during ES's run but IMO he got all the credit for the groundwork that was laid by H. Wesley Kenney.

Fall 1985 is being uploaded. The feud and quadrangle are entering full strength and everything is going to culminate in the first half of 1986. 1985/1986 Y&R reached #2, it was the peak of the Bill Bell/H. Wesley Kenney years. Side note, I noticed 1985 is when Brenda Dickson started to get OTT in her acting mannerisms. I know they get worse in 1986 and 1987.

1985 uploads so far are so good. The feud and quadrangle are building up. So many stories are going to culminate in the first half of 1986, the peak of the Bill Bell/H. Wesley Kenney era. Not digging the mob princess storyline. Still can't believe Y&R went there with Whiteface Tyrone. There's even another action hero Victor rescue sequence complete with cheesy 1980s music Can't wait to see more of 1985 and hopefully the first half of 1986.

Peter Bergman mentioned in a podcast that Y&R tested six actors for Jack before he was cast. I know two of them were Mark Pinter and Jeff Trachta, and a third may have been Jon Lindstrom. Any ideas of who the other three were?

IIRC, Christine got into the Newman orbit around Summer/Fall 1995 when Nick was accused of shooting Matt Clark. After Nick's trial, I seem to remember Victor hiring Christine for the Newman Enterprises legal department. I still can't believe Bill Bell would allude to a potential Victor/Christine pairing in 1996 🤮

Mid-1990s Nikki was so snooty lady of the manor. I remember the Nikki/Christine confrontation. It was before the shooting. Nikki witnessed Victor comforting Christine over Christine's broken engagement to Paul and then Nikki sauntered over to Legal Aid and put Christine on blast. It looked like Bill Bell was alluding to a potential Victor/Christine pairing before the shooting but thankfully that didn't happen.

@YRfan23 Agree that the mob story is way too General Hospital/Days. If the clips get into 1985, we might see Tyrone in whiteface. That would not happen today. Watched the fall 1984 clips, things are getting good. That meeting of Victor and Jack at Gina's, there were hints of the eternal feud to come. Was that their first meeting? I wonder how long Bill Bell would've kept the feud going had Terry Lester not left.

Kimberly was Bradley's version of Cricket.

The seeds are being planted for the eternal quadrangle and eternal feud. Do we dare hope that we get to see Victor and Jack's first meeting? Marc Mergeron is way too Dynasty. I think he stays on until 1988 or so.

Daytime dramas could get away with alot more stuff in the first half of the 1980s. Then AIDS happened and that changed everything.

Finished the 1983 uploads and watched what was uploaded of 1984 so far. The transition is complete and Y&R is becoming Y&R as we know it today. So from Summer 1983 to Summer 1986, Cricket showed up for summer, Christmas, Spring Break storylines. She wasn't annoying in small doses, but we all know what was to come in the later part of the decade. It was daring of Y&R and really brave of Jeanne Cooper to allow the actual facelift surgery to be shown. Katherine's facelift paved the way for reality shows like Extreme Makeover, The Swan, Dr. 90210. What in General Hospital/Days was that Caribbean remote rescue sequence complete with cheesy 1980s music? Victor started out as Bill Bell's version of J.R. Ewing and 4 years later he's an action hero! Can't believe Y&R went there and had Victor harpooned in the groin 😂 Of course little did Paul know that he would have a similar groin injury 10 years later 😂 One 1980s trend I noticed Y&R didn't jump on the bandwagon of as much was the supercouple craze. Even though Bill Bell may not have intended for it, one could say Victor/Nikki are Y&R's supercouple. Did the soap press give Victor/Nikki much hype from 1981-1984 as they gave Luke/Laura and Bo/Hope during that same time?

We hold Y&R to a higher standard than other daytime dramas, but even Bill Bell was not immune to jumping on the action/adventure bandwagon. I wonder how much of that was Bill Bell's own choice or was it CBS attempting to cash in on General Hospital's popularity. Allison was the poor man's Vanessa. Bill Bell's best Vanessa re-creation was Stephanie.

I've been enjoying 1983 clips more than the return episodes. I think Cricket's first appearance from summer 1983 is in there. It's so odd to see Terry Lester's Jack actually liking Cricket's modelling shoot, knowing what was to happen by the end of the decade. The mob story is way too General Hospital/Days. Jazz is serving up some Mr. T vibes, I wonder if CBS was trying to cash in on Mr. T's popularity. That reminds me of another Bill Bell element, the educated professional with a troublemaking sibling: Casey/Nikki, Tyrone/Jazz, Olivia/Dru, Neil/Malcolm. 1982/1983 Y&R finished 4th, becoming CBS's #1 daytime drama, with the ABC big three finishing in the top 3. 1983/1984 Y&R moved past One Life to Live to finish 3rd. Hopefully we'll get to 1984 as that's when Y&R became Y&R as we know it today.