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Y&R November 2022 Discussion Thread
@soapfan770 Not that I'm aware of. My cable guide says NFL on Thursday and college football on Friday.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
I'm not a regular viewer of the Housewives, but does anyone think that the Larsa Pippen/Marcus Jordan relationship is going to be a storyline on Miami this season? I find the whole dynamic of their relationship creepy, considering she was in his orbit when he was a child.
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Y&R November 2022 Discussion Thread
Next week is a short week due to Thanksgiving. Y&R is so not exciting that I'm looking forward to the break.
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
1982/83 was the start of CBS's struggle with sitcoms. M*A*S*H ended and The Jeffersons, Alice, One Day at a Time fell out of the Top 10. Newhart first season had a good start, finishing 12th tied w/ The Jeffersons and the second highest rated new scripted series of 1982/83 after The A-Team, but it was very up and down during its run. Newhart dropped to 23rd in 1983/84, went up to 16th in 1984/85, remained at 16th in 1985/86, back up to 12th in 1986/87, dropped to 25th in 1987/88, and was below the Top 30 in its final two seasons 1988/89 and 1989/90. Newhart was another show that got lost in the shuffle when sitcoms made a comeback in Fall 1985, overshadowed by the big mid-1980s workplace/friendship sitcoms Cheers, Golden Girls, Night Court.
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DOOL - John Aniston Dies at 89
Days has lost an entire generation, the heads of all their core families. Macdonald Carey, Frances Reid, Joseph Mascolo, Frank Parker, Peggy McCay, John Aniston all gone within the last 30 years.
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DOOL - John Aniston Dies at 89
RIP John Aniston and thank you for your contributions to daytime television.
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
Murder, She Wrote was finishing ahead of the primetime soaps as early as its second episode. 1984/85 was the peak season of primetime soaps but 16 of Murder, She Wrote's first 22 episodes finished ahead of at least one of the primetime soaps. These episodes were October 7, 1984: Deadly Lady (episode 2), rating 20.3. Finished ahead of Falcon Crest (October 5: Father's Day, rating 20.0). No Dynasty on October 3. October 14, 1984: Birds of a Feather (episode 3), rating 19.4. Finished ahead of Falcon Crest (October 12: Strangers, rating 18.5). No Knots Landing on October 11. November 25, 1984: Hit, Run and Homicide (episode 7), rating 19.7. Finished ahead of Falcon Crest (November 23: The Trump Card, rating 18.8) and Knots Landing (November 22: Love to Take You Home, rating 16.3). This episode of Murder, She Wrote also finished ahead of The Cosby Show (November 22: Bonjour Sondra, rating 16.7). December 9, 1984: We're Off to Kill the Wizard (episode 8 ), rating 22.3. Finished ahead of Falcon Crest (December 7: Going Once, Going Twice; rating 20.7) and Knots Landing (December 6: We Come Together, rating 20.2). December 30, 1984: Death Casts a Spell (episode 10), rating 22.3. Finished ahead of Falcon Crest (December 28: Suitable for Framing, rating 21.2) and Knots Landing (December 27: Uncharted Territory, rating 20.3). No Dynasty on December 26. January 6, 1985: Capitol Offense (episode 11), rating 22.4. Finished ahead of Falcon Crest (January 4: Vicious Circle, rating 21.5) and Knots Landing (January 3: Weighing of Evils, rating 21.4). January 13, 1985: Broadway Malady (episode 12), rating 21.8. Tied Falcon Crest (January 11: Insult and Injury, rating 21.8) and finished ahead of Knots Landing (January 10: #14 With a Bullet, rating 18.6). February 3, 1985: Murder to a Jazz Beat (episode 13), rating 22.0. Finished ahead of Falcon Crest (February 1: The Showdown, rating 20.1). February 17, 1985: Paint Me a Murder (episode 15), rating 20.5. Finished ahead of Falcon Crest (February 15: Forsaking All Others, rating 19.4). February 24, 1985: Tough Guys Don't Die (episode 16), rating 21.7. Finished ahead of Falcon Crest (February 22: Recriminations, rating 20.2) and Knots Landing (February 21: The Emperor's Clothes, rating 18.8). March 3, 1985: Sudden Death (episode 17), rating 21.6. Finished ahead of Knots Landing (February 28: The Deluge, rating 20.3). No Falcon Crest on March 1. March 10, 1985: Footnote to Murder (episode 18), rating 19.7. Finished ahead of Falcon Crest (March 8: House Divided, rating 17.5). March 17, 1985: Murder Takes the Bus (episode 19), rating 22.4. Finished ahead of Falcon Crest (March 15: The Trial, rating 17.6). No Knots Landing on March 14. March 31, 1985: Armed Response (episode 20), rating 21.2. Finished ahead of Knots Landing (March 28: A Man of Good Will, rating 19.4) and Falcon Crest (March 29: Justice for All, rating 19.2). April 7, 1985: Murder at the Oasis (episode 21), rating 20.4. Finished ahead of Knots Landing (April 4: For Better, for Worse; rating 18.2). No Dallas and Falcon Crest on April 5. April 21, 1985: Funeral at Fifty-Mile (season finale), rating 24.5. Finished ahead of Dallas (April 19: The Ewing Connection, rating 21.1) and Falcon Crest (April 19: The Decline, rating 16.9). No Knots Landing on April 18. This episode of Murder, She Wrote finished 2nd for the week, behind a repeat of The Cosby Show. No Dynasty on April 17. On a win-loss basis, Murder, She Wrote's 1984/85 record vs. the soaps was Falcon Crest 13-6, plus 1 tie Knots Landing 9-9 Dallas 1-20 Dynasty 0-19 The tide shifted 1985/86 until the end of the primetime soap era 1992/93, as Murder, She Wrote began finishing ahead of all four soaps. The first Murder, She Wrote episode to finish ahead of all four soaps was Murder in the Afternoon (October 13, 1985, rating 24.9). This episode finished 2nd for the week, behind The Cosby Show. From 1985/86 to 1992/93, there were 12 episodes of Murder, She Wrote that finished behind one of the soaps. These episodes were September 29, 1985: Widow Weep for Me (season 2 premiere), rating 24.4. Finished behind Dynasty (September 25: The Aftermath (season 6 premiere), rating 28.1). No Falcon Crest on September 27. October 6, 1985: Joshua Peabody Died Here... Possibly, rating 23.5. Finished behind Dallas (October 4: Those Eyes, rating 23.8). October 27, 1985: Sing a Song of Murder, rating 21.1. Finished behind Dallas (October 25: Mothers, rating 22.7). No Dynasty on October 23. May 18, 1986: If the Frame Fits (season 2 finale), rating 21.7. Finished behind Dallas (May 16: Blast from the Past (season 9 finale), rating 24.9). September 28, 1986: Death Stalks the Big Top (Part 1; season 3 premiere), rating 24.6. Finished behind Dallas (September 26: Return to Camelot (season 10 premiere), rating 26.5). No Falcon Crest on September 26. October 25, 1987: The Way to Dusty Death, rating 17.7. Finished behind Dallas (October 23: Tough Love, rating 18.2). No Dynasty on October 21. May 14, 1989: Mirror, Mirror on the Wall (Part 1), rating 15.4. Finished behind Knots Landing (May 11: The Heat of Passion, rating 16.3). Dynasty series finale May 11. May 21, 1989: Mirror, Mirror on the Wall (Part 2; season 5 finale), rating 17.6. Finished behind Knots Landing (May 18: Down Came the Rain and Washed the Spider Out (season 10 finale), rating 18.0). April 8, 1990: Always a Thief, rating 14.4. Finished behind Knots Landing (April 5: The One to Blame, rating 14.5). No Falcon Crest on April 6. May 20, 1990: The Sicilian Encounter (season 6 finale), rating 14.1. Finished behind Knots Landing (May 17: Lets Get Married (season 11 finale), rating 14.7). Dallas season 13 finale May 11. Falcon Crest series finale May 17. May 5, 1991: Tainted Lady, rating 16.0. Finished behind Dallas (May 3: Conundrum (series finale), rating 22.0). May 12, 1991: The Skinny According to Nick Culhane (season 7 finale), rating 13.2. Finished behind Knots Landing (May 9: Play, Pause, Search (season 12 finale), rating 14.2). On a win-loss basis, Murder, She Wrote's overall records vs. the soaps were Falcon Crest 100-6, plus 1 tie Knots Landing 148-14 Dallas 105-26 Dynasty 63-20
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Y&R November 2022 Discussion Thread
Mishael Morgan is smart to leave Y&R. Her talent is being wasted there.
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Time Slot Hits
For a show that resulted in so many time slot hits and even poked fun at NBC for it, Seinfeld itself could have very easily been a time slot hit looking at its scheduling history. NBC broadcast the pilot episode of Seinfeld on Wednesday July 5, 1989 @ 9 pm but it doesn't get picked up for Fall 1989. Thursday May 31, 1990 @ 9:30 pm, Seinfeld premieres as a summer series and the run is four episodes. Wednesday January 23, 1991 @ 9:30 pm, Seinfeld returns as a midseason series and the run is twelve episodes. Episodes 1-4, 12 Wednesday 9:30 pm (Night Court lead out). Episodes 5-11 Thursday 9:30 pm (Cheers lead out). Finishes below the Top 30. 1991/92: Seinfeld returns for its first full season. Episodes 1-11, 15, 18 Wednesday 9:30 pm (Night Court lead out). Episodes 12-14, 16, 17, 19-23 Wednesday 9 pm. Finishes below the Top 30. 1992/93: Episodes 1-3, 5-15 Wednesday 9 pm where its head-to-head w/ Home Improvement. Episode 4 Wednesday 9:30 pm. Episodes 16-22 Thursday 9:30 pm (Cheers lead out). Episode 23 Thursday 8 pm. Episode 24 Thursday 8:30 pm. Moves up to 25th. 1993/94: Moves to Thursday 9 pm where it remains until final season 1997/98. Finishes 3rd, #1, 2nd, 2nd, #1. During the final 5 seasons of Cheers, it seems as though NBC used Thursday 9:30 pm as a testing ground. Looking at the 1992/93 weekly ratings, Seinfeld got a boost from episodes 16-22 being the Cheers lead out and episodes 23 and 24 being broadcast the same night as Cheers series finale, although moving away from being head-to-head w/ Home Improvement was also a big factor. If Seinfeld had Thursday 9:30 pm as its time slot from its first full season, who knows what kind of ratings it would have gotten.
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Billboard Charts
I think Rihanna will get her 15th #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 soon.
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Y&R November 2022 Discussion Thread
3 A.M. was everything! Whenever that played you knew something dangerous with consequences was about to take place.
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Knots Landing
@Vee I'm looking forward to your thoughts on the Ava Gardner episodes. I love messy wealthy matriarchs and Ava as Ruth was everything.
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Mystery YR return
@BoldRestless @SoapsudsIIRC there was an episode in December 1988 where Danny, Phillip, Chase, Scott visited Cricket with gifts all at the same time. Of course there was this SOD cover not long after that.
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Best/Worst Written Soap Affairs
@Paul Raven @DramatistDreamer The Nathan/Keesha affair really was a sign that Bill Bell had lost interest in Nathan.
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Y&R November 2022 Discussion Thread
@Taoboi November sleeps 🤣
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- Guiding Light Discussion Thread
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Best/Worst Written Soap Affairs
@Paul Raven Yes, the 1984-1988 Victor/Nikki/Ashley/Jack quad drove so much story in that era. Bill Bell revisiting the quad in 1990-1992 w/ the Ashley and Jack recasts didn't work in hindsight. To think that the eternal triangle was the result of two accident pairings in Victor/Nikki and Victor/Ashley.
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Billboard Charts
Taylor Swift is the 7th female solo artist to reach 9 #1s on the Billboard Hot 100. The female solo artists w/ 9 or more #1s on the Billboard Hot 100 are Mariah Carey (19), Rihanna (14), Madonna (12), Whitney Houston (11), Janet Jackson (10), Katy Perry (9), Taylor Swift (9). If we do not count Elvis Presley's 11 pre-Billboard Hot 100 #1s, Taylor Swift is the 15th artist to reach 9 #1s on the Billboard Hot 100.
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Look into the past - 1975
Reading about Nikki's early storylines as a troublemaking promiscuous girl/ho in these streets, not surprised she ended up climbing that pole three years later. Jill would break her mother's heart in pursuit of the come up. The four Ls quad is really taking off here. I think we're getting close to the big Leslie/Lorie confrontation.
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YR/BOLD: 30 Years of Sheila Carter
Going by real time, Finn was born 15 months before Sheila arrived in Genoa City. I thought Bradley would have delved into his father's history of Sheila and have the father be John Silva. Remember in Fall 1990 there were hints that John Silva and Sheila shared a past but then Bill Bell decided not to expand further on it.
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
1983/84 was the low point of sitcoms it seems. All the Top 10 sitcoms from 1979/80 to 1982/83 had either ended (Flo, House Calls, Too Close for Comfort, M*A*S*H), were declining (The Jeffersons, Alice), or were about to end (Three's Company, One Day at a Time). The only bright spot for sitcoms that season was Kate & Allie, which premiered midseason and finished 8th for the season, the only sitcom to finish in the 1983/84 Top 10 and the highest rated new scripted series of the season. Kate & Allie couldn't maintain its momentum though, hovering in the teens for its second through fourth seasons, falling out of the Top 30 in its fifth season, and finishing below the Top 30 in its sixth and final season. Perhaps Kate & Allie got lost in the shuffle when sitcoms made a comeback in Fall 1985, as it was overshadowed by the big mid-1980s family sitcoms (The Cosby Show, Family Ties, Who's the Boss, Growing Pains) and workplace/friendship sitcoms (Cheers, The Golden Girls, Night Court).
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YR/BOLD: 30 Years of Sheila Carter
We only saw Sheila pregnant twice on-screen though, Scott's child that was miscarried, and Mary Warwick.
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YR/BOLD: 30 Years of Sheila Carter
Sheila's first Y&R episode was May 1990 and first B&B episode was May 1992. I liked her 1990-1992 Y&R storyline and 1992-1995 B&B storyline. Sheila was played out by the end of her second B&B run (1995-1998).
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Look into the past - 1975
Thanks @FrenchFan. Nikki was quite the ho in these streets, and Jill was all about the come up. I also got the impression that Jill was alot more street smart than Nikki.