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Does anyone know if the full SOD Awards from January 1989 has surfaced anywhere? That edition was Y&R's best showing in the 1980s, w/ EB winning Lead Actor, JC winning Lead Actress plus receiving the Editor's Award, and Quinn Redeker winning Supporting Actor. Only clips are on YT, but none of them are of the Y&R wins. It's amazing that Y&R got three fan-voted SOD Awards at the height of Days/Santa Barbara dominating them.

Considering TB was one of Y&R's first acting Daytime Emmy winners, I say she deserves an anniversary episode. Clips that should be shown: Lauren's first appearance, first meeting w/ Paul and their wedding, first fight w/ Traci, first scene w/ JoAnna, first scene running Fenmore's after her father's death. Hahaha, yes. The cult story was referenced but Dylan was not. He's been wiped from the canon.

As I pointed out before, ED's acting style is what lead Ashley's pairings w/ Brian, Eric, Marc to tank. That's also probably why Bill Bell kept ED Ashley and Traci in separate orbits when it came to their romances and romantic rivals. There was no way that 1985 Don Diamont could have kept up acting-wise w/ 1985 ED. When Bill Bell put Victor in the Abbott orbit w/ the Mergeron takeover storyline, he saw that EB was a match for ED's acting style and the rest is history. While I think Ashley cared for Steven, I didn't sense it was a genuine love. Steven supported Ashley through a difficult time, but I feel the marriage was her trying to move on from Victor.

Taylor the Desert Princess was cheesy and offensive and would not fly today. The first half of 1995 highlights were Taylor revealed to be alive in Los Angeles and Sheila Genoa City past being exposed to the Forresters (we saw one of those eps during the 2020 classics).

Oh the shade 🤣 Tyler was a fake-ass Shemar in a long line of fake-ass Shemars.

Ashley feels like four separate characters. ED 1982-88 original recipe Ashley was initially presented as confident and goal-oriented on track to a successful business career but became emotionally fragile in the aftermath of the parentage reveal. Ashley was a likeable character, but I didn't feel she was a clear-cut heroine in the vein of Chris Brooks and Leslie before her, and Caroline and Christine after her. Even though Ashley was the other woman in the eternal triangle and little Victoria called her the wicked witch that took her daddy away, you couldn't fully hate Ashley. BE Ashley was a serviceable recast, but she was written more as a heroine to fit BE acting style and that didn't fit the character. BE looked too innocent and sweet to be believable as the other woman in the eternal triangle. I could not picture little Victoria calling BE Ashley the wicked witch that took her daddy away. SS Ashley was unlikeable and boring, but the timing may have played a part too. Bill Bell seemed to have lost interest in the Abbotts when Y&R went off track from 1994-1997. ED 1999 return was as though she never left but there was a coldness and hardness added to Ashley that wasn't there in her original run. That might have been due to Bill Bell no longer writing, or a change in ED acting style from her time on Days.

I've said this numerous times, but to me the real proof that Bradley did not inherit his father's talent was when we were denied a Stephanie and Victor scene during the Jabot/Newman/Forrester crossover storyline. You know Bill Bell would have given us a scene of two of his greatest creations together. I recall an interview w/ Susan Flannery from the early 2000s where she even said it was a missed opportunity that Stephanie and Victor didn't interact during that storyline. I wish I could find that interview but no luck.

Fall 1994, aftermath of OJ plus Reilly's Days was about to blow up. B&B starts tanking in the second half of 1995. Yeah, we can really see the difference between Bill Bell's masterpiece of 1987-1993 and Bradley who did not inherit his father's talent.

You're welcome @soapfan770 Murder, She Wrote was one of those shows I took for granted as a kid/teen, but it's a show I appreciate so much more as an adult. There's something comforting about it and maybe that's why it appeals to viewers of all walks of life.

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I think we're going to get Nate/Victoria.

I was surprised 1985 was Most Improved. Seasons 2 and 3 were the peak. Season 4 was still enjoyable, but signs of tanking were showing after the war crimes storyline was abruptly ended. The remaining 10 or so episodes after felt like so much of the momentum that had been built over the run of the series was gone. Season 5 is when the tanking started (keeping it real, all the primetime soaps tanked in 1985/86) plus being head-to-head w/ the new hotness that was Miami Vice didn't help matters either. You must mean the 1987 Best Love Story write up. That was a surprise choice for the time. Back then popular soap romances were mostly young and beautiful star-crossed lovers. These were middle-aged adults with a more emotional connection (I never sensed any longing fueled by passion and heat that the 1985 write up described) that had formed unexpectedly a few years earlier and over time that connection slowly grew into a love that neither one was prepared for and both were a little scared of facing. Perhaps your mother was a fan of Golden Age Hollywood and liked the guest stars in short arcs.

Y&R - 10% good, 90% garbage time

Y&R Summer 1994- Spring 1996 Bill Bell tried so hard to make Joshua Morrow happen.

I hadn't thought of this song for years, but the video is the story of pretty much every 1980s/1990s teen movie.

GL Roger/Holly storylines from March 1979 marital rape to April 1980 Roger's fall off the cliff in Santo Domingo. Those 13 months of storylines set in motion so much of what we saw a decade later during the Calhoun era.

This also led to Bill Bell creating Victor's back story of being abandoned by both parents, growing up in an orphanage, and his becoming a self-made man, thus Victor's character arc from villain to anti-hero/romantic leading man. MTS has said that Victor/Nikki were an accident pairing that just blew up and it was Bill Bell that saw the connection between her and EB before they themselves even realized it was there. It's funny that Bill Bell's initial plan Victor/Lorie didn't happen, but the two accident pairings Victor/Nikki and Victor/Ashley would be the eternal triangle that still impacts so much of what we see today.

I think Victor/Lorie was Bill Bell's initial plan, but he changed course with the unexpected popularity of Victor/Nikki My Fair Lady storyline, MTS real-life pregnancy, and JLB departure. When Bill Bell put Victor/Lorie in each other's orbit in 1980, it was the wealthy businessman introduced as the new villain that was drawn to the vixen daughter of the main upper-class family. A Victor/Lorie marriage probably would have been more along the lines of a 1980s high society power couple. While Victor may have had some affection for Lorie, I never felt that there was genuine love between them.

🤣 He's trying to avoid having a dad bod. Keeping it real, JM has never appealed to me in either acting or looks. His whole overgrown frat boy persona doesn't help either.

Similar vein Terry Lester's Jack.

I'd say MAB-era Sharon.

Leslie Brooks in the same vein.

Y&R Jill and Katherine's first encounter at the hair salon led to nearly 40 years of storylines. Victor entering the Abbott orbit with the Mergeron takeover storyline set in motion so much of what we see today.

Then again, bringing together the kind-hearted heroine and dangerous villain is a tale as old as time.

@Soapfan8 Victor was introduced as the new villain but once Bill Bell created the backstory of Victor's childhood and his becoming a self-made man, Victor became more of an anti-hero/romantic leading man than a villain.