Everything posted by kalbir
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Most Concequential Soap Plots
GL Roger/Holly storylines from March 1979 marital rape to April 1980 Roger's fall off the cliff in Santo Domingo. Those 13 months of storylines set in motion so much of what we saw a decade later during the Calhoun era.
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Most Concequential Soap Plots
This also led to Bill Bell creating Victor's back story of being abandoned by both parents, growing up in an orphanage, and his becoming a self-made man, thus Victor's character arc from villain to anti-hero/romantic leading man. MTS has said that Victor/Nikki were an accident pairing that just blew up and it was Bill Bell that saw the connection between her and EB before they themselves even realized it was there. It's funny that Bill Bell's initial plan Victor/Lorie didn't happen, but the two accident pairings Victor/Nikki and Victor/Ashley would be the eternal triangle that still impacts so much of what we see today.
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Most Concequential Soap Plots
I think Victor/Lorie was Bill Bell's initial plan, but he changed course with the unexpected popularity of Victor/Nikki My Fair Lady storyline, MTS real-life pregnancy, and JLB departure. When Bill Bell put Victor/Lorie in each other's orbit in 1980, it was the wealthy businessman introduced as the new villain that was drawn to the vixen daughter of the main upper-class family. A Victor/Lorie marriage probably would have been more along the lines of a 1980s high society power couple. While Victor may have had some affection for Lorie, I never felt that there was genuine love between them.
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Y&R November 2022 Discussion Thread
🤣 He's trying to avoid having a dad bod. Keeping it real, JM has never appealed to me in either acting or looks. His whole overgrown frat boy persona doesn't help either.
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Male Charachters that Carried their Shows or Revieved Heavy Focus
Similar vein Terry Lester's Jack.
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Most Concequential Soap Plots
Y&R Jill and Katherine's first encounter at the hair salon led to nearly 40 years of storylines. Victor entering the Abbott orbit with the Mergeron takeover storyline set in motion so much of what we see today.
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Falcon Crest
Then again, bringing together the kind-hearted heroine and dangerous villain is a tale as old as time.
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Male Charachters that Carried their Shows or Revieved Heavy Focus
@Soapfan8 Victor was introduced as the new villain but once Bill Bell created the backstory of Victor's childhood and his becoming a self-made man, Victor became more of an anti-hero/romantic leading man than a villain.
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Soap Endgame Couples
I never liked Jack and Nikki as a couple. I didn't feel that they had a great love between them. PB has never worked for me as a romantic leading man.
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Dallas Discussion Thread
Dallas mentions in SOD Best and Worst. 1984: Best Prime Time Cliffhanger, Gimme a Break!, Most Tortured Love Stories 1985: Best Prime Time Show 1986: Best Story Line, Biggest Cop-Out, Best Dream 1987: Best Scene Stealers, Most Pointless Story 1988: Gimme a Break! 1989: Best Casting - Prime Time 1990: Best Reincarnated Twosome The write ups are posted here Classic Soap Opera Digest News on Tumblr - #Best & Worst
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Knots Landing
Knots Landing mentions in SOD Best and Worst. 1983: Best True-to-Life Storylines, Best Nighttime Show 1984: Best Casting, Best Story, Best Show 1985: Best Weddings, Most Romantic Scenes, Most Intriguing Characters, Best Performance by a Celebrity 1986: Most Surprising Relative, Best Prime Time Show 1987: Best Prime-Time Casting 1988: Best Wacko (Prime-Time), Biggest Waste of Talent 1989: Most Shocking Twist, Best Show- Prime Time 1990: Best Villain (Prime Time), Best Hidden Pregnancy, Best Widower, Best Prime-Time Show 1991: Best Villainess, Most Disappointing Show The write ups are posted here Classic Soap Opera Digest News on Tumblr - #Best & Worst 1985 is incomplete on Tumblr but the missing write ups (text only) are here Voldemort Best & Worst -- 1985 - Daytime Royalty (daytimeroyaltyonline.com) The 1991 mentions are here 1-7-92 Soap Opera Digest THE BEST & WORST of 1991 | Soap Opera World but I couldn't find the write ups anywhere.
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Falcon Crest
Falcon Crest mentions in SOD Best and Worst. 1983: Best Nighttime Cliffhanger 1984: Most Intriguing Characters, Funny Couples 1985: Most Improved Show Prime Time 1986: Biggest Letdown 1987: Best Love Story, Most Shocking Twist, Best Prime-Time Show 1988: Best Reconciliation, Most Intriguing Characters, Best Prime-Time Show 1989: Biggest Waste of Talent - Prime Time, Most Ruined Show The write ups are posted here Classic Soap Opera Digest News on Tumblr - #Best & Worst
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Dynasty Discussion Thread
Dynasty mentions in SOD Best and Worst. 1984: Most Daring Plot, Best Dressed Women, Best Dressed Men, Thumbs Up!, Gimme a Break! 1985: Biggest Waste of Talent, Worst Casting 1986: Most Melodramatic Show. The Colbys got Best Prime Time Casting. 1987: Most Pointless Show. The Colbys got a mention in Gimme a Break. 1988: Worst Storyline, Most Ruined Show 1989: Best Enemies - Prime Time The write ups are posted here Classic Soap Opera Digest News on Tumblr - #Best & Worst 1985 is incomplete on Tumblr but the missing write ups (text only) are here Voldemort Best & Worst -- 1985 - Daytime Royalty (daytimeroyaltyonline.com)
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Male Charachters that Carried their Shows or Revieved Heavy Focus
Victor owns this thread. I can't really think of anyone for B&B though. Maybe early 1990s GL Roger.
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Dallas Discussion Thread
Three Dallas-related anniversaries, both real-life in the city and fictional on the show, are each separated by a day. November 22, 1963: President Kennedy is shot and killed in Dallas. November 21, 1980: CBS broadcasts the Dallas episode where who shot JR is revealed and it is the highest rated episode of the entire series. November 23, 2012: Larry Hagman passes away in Dallas as he was there filming the TNT revival of Dallas. It's so surreal that the episode where the most famous cliffhanger of the series was resolved was broadcast one day before the 17th anniversary of the most infamous real-life shooting that took place in the city of Dallas, and that Larry Hagman passed away 32 years and 2 days after that episode was broadcast.
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Your daily (or nightly) thought
Happy Thanksgiving everyone, and stay safe 🤗
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Soap Opera Anniversaries
B&B 10th anniversary week recap. March 23, 1997 was a Sunday. The Bold and the Beautiful Recaps: The week of March 24, 1997 on B&B | Soap Central
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Falcon Crest
Agree. It went from wealthy Waltons in modern day California wine country in season 1, to a Dallas with grapes/James Bond hybrid in seasons 2-4, then a Dallas with grapes/Miami Vice hybrid in season 5 (if you can't beat the new hotness, might as well join it), a high-octane action-packed thrill ride in seasons 6 and 7, and off the rails plus budget mode in seasons 8 and 9. Any show that's focused on family/business conflicts was going to draw comparisons to Dallas, but the James Bond and Miami Vice elements were not needed. The mentally ill members of the main family and guest stars in short arcs were elements used on Empire 30+ years later. Falcon Crest may not have been a pop culture phenomenon, but I think its place in television history is that of being Jane Wyman's late career comeback that pretty much overlapped with her ex-husband's presidency. The first episode December 4, 1981 was 318 days after Reagan took office, and the final episode May 17, 1990 was 1 year 117 days after Reagan left office.
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Soap Opera Anniversaries
Y&R anniversary week recaps. The Young and the Restless Recaps: The week of March 23, 1998 on Y&R | Soap Central The Young and the Restless Recaps: The week of March 24, 2003 on Y&R | Soap Central The Young and the Restless Recaps: The week of March 25, 2013 on Y&R | Soap Central During the classics, we saw an episode from the 20th anniversary week (March 22-26, 1993). I don't think any episodes have surfaced from the 10th anniversary week March 28-April 1, 1983 (March 26, 1983 was a Saturday).
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Falcon Crest
I agree. All the ingredients were there for a great show (the family/business conflicts, the soap elements, the acting talent) but the execution squandered the potential. I have a feeling that network interference and backstage drama played a big part in that.
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Time Slot Hits
Another show that resulted in so many time slot hits that could have been one itself was Friends. 1994/95: NBC new Thursday lineup is 8 pm Mad About You, 8:30 pm new comedy Friends (replacing Wings, which moved to Tuesday 8 pm), 9 pm Seinfeld, 9:30 pm new comedy Madman of the People (replacing Frasier, which moved to Tuesday 9 pm, head-to-head w/ Home Improvement), 10 pm new drama ER (replacing L.A. Law, which ended Spring 1994). February 1995, Friends moves to 9:30 pm when Madman of the People is pulled from the schedule and new comedy Hope and Gloria premieres at 8:30 pm. Seinfeld moves up from 3rd to #1, ER is 2nd, Friends is 8th, Mad About You moves up from below the Top 30 to 11th (its highest finish ever), Madman of the People is 12th but is cancelled, Hope and Gloria is 14th, Frasier drops from 7th to 15th, Wings drops from 18th (tied w/ NYPD Blue) to 26th. 1995/96: NBC new Thursday lineup is 8 pm Friends (replacing Mad About You, which moved to Sunday 8 pm), 8:30 pm new comedy The Single Guy (replacing Hope and Gloria, which moved to Sunday 8:30 pm then Saturday 9 pm), 9 pm Seinfeld, 9:30 pm new comedy Caroline in the City, 10 pm ER. ER moves up to #1, Seinfeld drops to 2nd, Friends moves up to 3rd, Caroline in the City finishes 4th, The Single Guy finishes 6th, Mad About You falls below the Top 30, Hope and Gloria falls below the Top 30 and is cancelled. 1996/97 to final season 2003/04: Friends remains Thursday 8 pm and it finishes 4th (tied w/ The Naked Truth), 4th, 2nd, 5th, 5th (tied w/ Monday Night Football and Everybody Loves Raymond), #1, 2nd, 4th. NBC struggled with Thursday 8 pm in the years between the end of The Cosby Show and the move of Friends to that time slot. Looking at the 1994/95 weekly ratings, Friends did get a boost from the final 8 episodes of its first season being hammocked between Seinfeld and ER. Fortunately for NBC the move of Friends to Thursday 8 pm paid off for them.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
Larsa and Marcus have apparently been together since September. New Miami episodes drop in December.