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Robert Calhoun laid all the groundwork for GL's early 1990s golden era but JFP ended up getting all the credit.

@ironlion I never got Ryan's appeal and can't figure out how he lasted for 10 years. He basically replaced Chase Benson (whom I don't think even got a proper exit storyline; he stopped appearing in late 1990 or early 1991) in the up-and-coming Jabot executive ranks. I also wonder if Bill Bell used Ryan to fill the void left from killing off Phillip III.

Preparing for streaming maybe.

Yes, but it made Ashley/Traci romantic rivals which did not suit the characters.

This should be a good episode. @ltm1997 I also hope we get to see TB first scene.

Jill/Nina lines up w/ Nikki/Sharon and Vanessa/Lorie lines up w/ Stephanie/Brooke. Brooke/Amber was Bradley's version of Jill/Nina and Nikki/Sharon.

@Liberty City @Faulkner Victor/Ashley worked w/ ED in her original run because Bill Bell saw that EB was a match for ED's acting style. I didn't feel EB had the same connection w/ BE as he did w/ ED in her original run.

Larsa Pippen Photographed Kissing Michael Jordan's Son Marcus (people.com) Am I the only person who finds the whole dynamic of their relationship creepy? I am pretty sure she was aware of him in the 1990s when he was a child. If a 48 year old man was dating a 32 year old woman that was the daughter of his ex's former colleague and he had been aware of her since she was a child, it would look like he was creeping/sniffing around her the whole time.

NBC tried primetime soaps with Flamingo Road, Bare Essence, Yellow Rose, Berrengers but none of them worked. It also didn't help that NBC was a mess in primetime for most of the time primetime soaps as a genre was at its peak.

Could Taylor move past Janet/Whitney/Madonna soon as far as #1s go?

Who's the Boss first two episodes were Thursday 8:30 pm, then moved to Tuesday 8:30 pm. Fall 1985 moved up to Tuesday 8 pm where it took off and ABC Tuesday rebounded. Who's the Boss was ABC's only new show from Fall 1984 to return Fall 1985.

Also Stephanie/Brooke and to a lesser extent Nikki/Sharon. Adding to Bill Bell Mother that favors one son over the other: Vanessa, Cora, Stephanie Upper class background/working class background romantic rivals: Ashley/Nikki, Caroline/Brooke

John Abbott's death on Y&R, because it felt like the end of an era. In all honesty, Y&R hasn't been the same since.

I had no idea The Cosby Show was originally offered to ABC. The Cosby Show on ABC might have gotten Thursday 8:30 pm where Who's the Boss was originally scheduled. ABC was a mess in 1984/85 despite Dynasty reaching #1, so The Cosby Show may not have had the same success on ABC that it did on NBC.

@ironlionBill Bell also used vixen daughter all about the come up becomes involved with the upper class/wealthy man that her working class mother loves w/ Jill/Stuart/Liz and Brooke/Eric/Beth.

Bill Bell had characters/storylines with elements from literature, film, and biblical allusions, but then again that could apply to all writers.

@ranger1rg As long as JM still has that overgrown frat boy persona, Nick will too.

@Taoboi I have never heard anything about the team SM plays for, but I'm totally shocked that his baby mama is 39 and already has two kids by two dads.

@Darn @Faulkner @yrfan1983 Shemar Moore's girlfriend is pregnant with his first child (pagesix.com)

RIP Quinn Redeker and thank you for the years you entertained us on daytime.

1984/85 was probably the best and most pivotal television season of the 1980s. The premieres of The Cosby Show; Murder, She Wrote; Miami Vice; Who's the Boss; Moonlighting. The zenith of primetime soaps as all four were in the Top 10. The peak season of Dynasty and Knots Landing. Dallas lost #1 to Dynasty. Falcon Crest dropped from its peak the previous season. The action shows weakened a bit. The A-Team and Simon & Simon dropped from their peaks the previous season. Magnum, P.I. fell out of the Top 10. Sitcoms were gaining ground again, with the breakout success of The Cosby Show pulling up the rest of NBC's Thursday sitcom lineup Family Ties, Cheers, Night Court. CBS Sunday rebounded with the surprise success of Murder, She Wrote. Crazy Like a Fox was able to retain the Murder, She Wrote audience which The Jeffersons and Alice could not do. Despite Dallas dropping from #1 to 2nd, CBS was #1 for the 6th consecutive season. NBC moved up to 2nd. ABC dropped to 3rd. Little did we know at the time the impact that the breakout success of The Cosby Show and the surprise success of Murder, She Wrote would have on their respective networks, and that impact is still being felt today.

Do not give Bradley ideas. Then again, Bradley did reuse his father's work in the late 1990s. Amber/Rick/Kimberly was Bradley's version of Nina/Phillip/Cricket.

Looking back, 1988/89 wasn't a very good season. So many shows felt off. I chalk it up to after effects of the writer's strike and changing times.

@Paul Raven I had no idea Victor meeting Hope in Kansas was a redo of a Bill Bell Days storyline 🤯

I don't believe so. Other elements Bill Bell used Brothers fighting over a girl: Snapper/Greg, Lance/Lucas, Jazz/Tyrone, Victor/Matt, Ridge/Thorne, Neil/Malcolm Sisters fighting over a guy: Leslie/Lorie, Donna/Katie, Ashley/Traci, Olivia/Dru Virgin heroines that are rape victims: Chris, Peggy, Caroline, Cricket Working class young woman in conflict with wealthy older woman: Jill/Katherine, Nikki/Allison, Brooke/Stephanie, Nina/Jill, Sharon/Nikki Mothers that attempt to control their son's love lives: Vanessa, Allison, Mary, Stephanie, Nikki, Jill Messy wealthy matriarchs: Jennifer, Katherine, Vanessa, Allison, Dina, JoAnna, Stephanie Educated professional that has a troublemaking sibling: Casey/Nikki, Olivia/Dru, Neil/Malcolm