Everything posted by kalbir
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Dallas Discussion Thread
HD streaming and Blu-ray release to time in with the 45th anniversary in April.
- Y&R: Old Articles
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Retcons You Liked/Disliked
I think the Carl rewrite was that he went to work one morning and never came home. Onscreen he stopped being shown around 1990 without an explanation.
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The Celine Dion Thread
Her YT channel has many of her full albums Celine Dion - YouTube Her first US television appearance Love this performance
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Retcons You Liked/Disliked
Some bad Y&R rewrites mainly due to them going against established history: Jack the Vietnam veteran circa 1970-1972 when it was established that Dina abandoned the family in 1971. Nikki becoming pregnant by Paul during the Summer 1980 cult storyline. That means Nikki would have given birth in Spring 1981 which we know did not happen.
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
Nancy Lee Grahn, Lane Davies, Marcy Walker, A Martinez appear in this promo for NBC's Fall 1988 lineup.
- DAYS: Behind the Scenes, Articles/Photos
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Murder, She Wrote
That's why the bookend episodes in Seasons 6 and 7.
- Y&R: Old Articles
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SOD Best and Worst of 2022
SOD hasn't been relevant for the better part of the last 25 years. The internet has made the soap press obsolete.
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SOD Best and Worst of 2022
Hahaha. I'm so done right now.
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Young & Restless - November 2022 Episode Counts
EB is pretty active on Twitter, so I don't think he's having any health issues. He has always maintained he has no plans to retire.
- DAYS: Behind the Scenes, Articles/Photos
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Y&R: Old Articles
@Broderick When the Abbott daughters were introduced, Ashley was a college graduate (so close to ED's own age, 23 in 1982) and Traci was a high school graduate (BM was 24 in 1982 but playing 18). Their initial storylines had Ashley starting her career at Jabot and Traci starting college, so it makes sense that their social lives would be separate.
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The Joan Collins Fan Club
Joan Collins on Instagram: “Farewell to the wonderful Angela Lansbury. She was immensely talented and deserved her long life and career. Here we are performing at the…” I had no idea they once performed together. I am impressed that the diva of all divas of 1980s primetime soaps is showing love to Angela Lansbury.
- Y&R: Old Articles
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Y&R: Old Articles
@yrfan1983 Looking back at 1988, it was an off year. There was the writer's strike, Cricket eating the show, MTS on pregnancy leave at the end of the year, ED departure w/o a proper exit story, Cassandra being elevated to front-burner lead. I get that the Victor/Leanna marriage was to deflect attention away from the Ruthless book that detailed Ashley's emotional breakdown, but I never really could figure out why Victor was intrigued by Leanna in the first place.
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
Heading into Fall 1984, action shows were the second biggest genre after primetime soaps. Murder, She Wrote was finishing ahead of the big three action shows (The A-Team, Simon & Simon; Magnum, P.I.) from its first episode. 14 of Murder, She Wrote's first 22 episodes finished ahead of a new episode of at least one of the big three action shows. These episodes were September 30, 1984: The Murder of Sherlock Holmes (series premiere), rating 18.9. Finished ahead of Magnum, P.I. (September 27: Echoes of the Mind (Part 1) (season 5 premiere), rating 18.4) and Simon & Simon (September 27: C'est Simon (season 4 premiere), rating 18.2). October 7, 1984: Deadly Lady (episode 2), rating 20.3. Finished ahead of Magnum, P.I. (October 4: Echoes of the Mind (Part 2), rating 19.4). November 25, 1984: Hit, Run and Homicide (episode 7), rating 19.7. Finished ahead of Simon & Simon (November 22: Almost Completely Out of Circulation, rating 19.5). Magnum, P.I. was a repeat on November 22. December 9, 1984: We're Off to Kill the Wizard (episode 8 ), rating 22.3. Finished ahead of The A-Team (December 4: The Bells of St. Mary's, rating 21.4) and Magnum, P.I. (December 6 - Luther Gillis: File #001, rating 21.0). January 13, 1985: Broadway Malady (episode 12), rating 21.8. Finished ahead of Magnum, P.I. (January 10: Professor Jonathan Higgins, rating 20.5). Simon & Simon was a repeat on January 10. February 3, 1985: Murder to a Jazz Beat (episode 13), rating 22.0. Finished ahead of Magnum, P.I. (January 31: All for One (Part 1), rating 18.9). February 10, 1985: My Johnny Lies Over the Ocean (episode 14), rating 19.9. Finished ahead of Magnum, P.I. (February 7: All for One (Part 2), rating 18.7). February 17, 1985: Paint Me a Murder (episode 15), rating 20.5. Finished ahead of Magnum, P.I. (February 14: The Love-for-Sale Boat, rating 19.8). February 24, 1985: Tough Guys Don't Die (episode 16), rating 21.7. Finished ahead of Magnum, P.I. (February 21: Let Me Hear the Music, rating 18.9). The A-Team was a repeat on February 19. March 3, 1985: Sudden Death (episode 17), rating 21.6. Finished ahead of The A-Team (February 26: Knights of the Road, rating 19.3). Magnum, P.I. was a repeat on February 28. March 10, 1985: Footnote to Murder (episode 18), rating 19.7. Finished ahead of Magnum, P.I. (March 7: Ms. Jones, rating 17.7). Simon & Simon was a repeat on March 7. March 17, 1985: Murder Takes the Bus (episode 19), rating 22.4. Finished ahead of Magnum, P.I. (March 14: The Man from Marseilles, rating 15.8). No Simon & Simon on March 14. The A-Team was a repeat on March 12. March 31, 1985: Armed Response (episode 20), rating 21.2. Finished ahead of Magnum, P.I. (March 28: Torah, Torah, Torah; rating 16.8). The A-Team was a repeat on March 26. April 7, 1985: Murder at the Oasis (episode 21), rating 20.4. Finished ahead of Magnum, P.I. (April 4: A Pretty Good Dancing Chicken (season 5 finale), rating 19.4). Simon & Simon season 4 finale March 28. On a win-loss basis, Murder, She Wrote's 1984/85 record vs. the action shows was Magnum, P.I. 12-6 The A-Team 2-13 Simon & Simon 2-13 The tide shifted 1985/86 until the end of the action shows, as Murder, She Wrote began finishing ahead of all three of the action shows. The first Murder, She Wrote episode to finish ahead of a new episode of all three action shows was Joshua Peabody Died Here... Possibly (October 6, 1985, rating 23.5). This episode finished 4th for the week, behind The Cosby Show, Family Ties, and Dallas. From 1985/86 until the end of the action shows, there was one episode of Murder, She Wrote that finished behind a new episode of one of the action shows. This episode was May 1, 1988: Deadpan, rating 20.8. Finished behind Magnum, P.I. (May 1: Resolutions (series finale), rating 32.0). Simon & Simon season 7 finale April 7. The A-Team final episode March 8, 1987. On a win-loss basis, Murder, She Wrote's overall records vs. the action shows were Magnum, P.I. 50-7 Simon & Simon 51-13 The A-Team 26-13 I don't think anyone that watched the broadcast networks in 1984/85 expected this comforting drama to take down the big three action shows and big four primetime soaps from the beginning and then the following season become the highest rated drama across the broadcast networks, ahead of all the primetime soaps and action shows, and even ahead of the new hotness Miami Vice (or as Angela Lansbury referred to it in a 1985 Los Angeles Times interview, Miami Heat). In fact, new episodes of Miami Vice never finished ahead of new episodes of Murder, She Wrote. On a win-loss basis, Murder, She Wrote's overall record vs. Miami Vice was 76-0, a clean sweep.
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Y&R: Old Articles
Does anyone know if the full SOD Awards from January 1989 has surfaced anywhere? That edition was Y&R's best showing in the 1980s, w/ EB winning Lead Actor, JC winning Lead Actress plus receiving the Editor's Award, and Quinn Redeker winning Supporting Actor. Only clips are on YT, but none of them are of the Y&R wins. It's amazing that Y&R got three fan-voted SOD Awards at the height of Days/Santa Barbara dominating them.
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Y&R: Old Articles
Considering TB was one of Y&R's first acting Daytime Emmy winners, I say she deserves an anniversary episode. Clips that should be shown: Lauren's first appearance, first meeting w/ Paul and their wedding, first fight w/ Traci, first scene w/ JoAnna, first scene running Fenmore's after her father's death. Hahaha, yes. The cult story was referenced but Dylan was not. He's been wiped from the canon.
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Y&R: Old Articles
As I pointed out before, ED's acting style is what lead Ashley's pairings w/ Brian, Eric, Marc to tank. That's also probably why Bill Bell kept ED Ashley and Traci in separate orbits when it came to their romances and romantic rivals. There was no way that 1985 Don Diamont could have kept up acting-wise w/ 1985 ED. When Bill Bell put Victor in the Abbott orbit w/ the Mergeron takeover storyline, he saw that EB was a match for ED's acting style and the rest is history. While I think Ashley cared for Steven, I didn't sense it was a genuine love. Steven supported Ashley through a difficult time, but I feel the marriage was her trying to move on from Victor.
- B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
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Mystery YR return
Oh the shade 🤣 Tyler was a fake-ass Shemar in a long line of fake-ass Shemars.
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Y&R: Old Articles
Ashley feels like four separate characters. ED 1982-88 original recipe Ashley was initially presented as confident and goal-oriented on track to a successful business career but became emotionally fragile in the aftermath of the parentage reveal. Ashley was a likeable character, but I didn't feel she was a clear-cut heroine in the vein of Chris Brooks and Leslie before her, and Caroline and Christine after her. Even though Ashley was the other woman in the eternal triangle and little Victoria called her the wicked witch that took her daddy away, you couldn't fully hate Ashley. BE Ashley was a serviceable recast, but she was written more as a heroine to fit BE acting style and that didn't fit the character. BE looked too innocent and sweet to be believable as the other woman in the eternal triangle. I could not picture little Victoria calling BE Ashley the wicked witch that took her daddy away. SS Ashley was unlikeable and boring, but the timing may have played a part too. Bill Bell seemed to have lost interest in the Abbotts when Y&R went off track from 1994-1997. ED 1999 return was as though she never left but there was a coldness and hardness added to Ashley that wasn't there in her original run. That might have been due to Bill Bell no longer writing, or a change in ED acting style from her time on Days.
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
I've said this numerous times, but to me the real proof that Bradley did not inherit his father's talent was when we were denied a Stephanie and Victor scene during the Jabot/Newman/Forrester crossover storyline. You know Bill Bell would have given us a scene of two of his greatest creations together. I recall an interview w/ Susan Flannery from the early 2000s where she even said it was a missed opportunity that Stephanie and Victor didn't interact during that storyline. I wish I could find that interview but no luck.