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From zap2it.com Monday, July 01, 2024 Episode #9305 (Season 37, Episode 196) Poppy's past catches up with her as she attempts to solidify her new Spencer family. Tuesday, July 02, 2024 Episode #9306 (Season 37, Episode 197) An unexpected death kicks off a sizzling summer mystery. Wednesday, July 03, 2024 Episode #9307 (Season 37, Episode 198) Katie gets emotional with Bill about his new relationship. Paris issues Hope a warning to stay away from Thomas. Thursday, July 04, 2024 Episode #9308 (Season 37, Episode 199) The Forrester Fourth of July party sets off fireworks in the sky and of the heart. Friday, July 05, 2024 Episode #9309 (Season 37, Episode 200) Poppy realizes that she may be in serious competition with Katie. Hope is devastated as Eric raises a toast to Paris and Thomas.

From zap2it.com Monday, July 1, 2024 on CBS (Fri. June 28 on Global-Canada) Episode #12903 (CBS Season 51, Episode 188) Devon vows to protect his family's legacy. Traci and Alan share a warm moment. Abby arrives in Paris to support Ashley. Jill loses patience with Billy. Tuesday, July 2, 2024 on CBS (Mon. July 1st on Global-Canada) Episode #12904 (CBS Season 51, Episode 189) Victor plays his cards close to the vest. Michael confides in Diane. Nikki feels guilty causing problems for Jack. Wednesday, July 3, 2024 on CBS (Tues. July 2 on Global-Canada) Episode #12905 (CBS Season 51, Episode 190 Jack confronts Kyle about working with Victor. Chance questions Billy's motives. Sparks fly between Nate and Audra. Thursday, July 4, 2024 on CBS (Wed. July 3 on Global-Canada) Episode #12906 (CBS Season 51, Episode 191) Victor and Jack reignite their feud. Diane is held accountable for her actions. Chelsea and Adam reminisce about their past. Friday, July 5, 2024 on CBS (Thurs. July 4 on Global-Canada) Episode #12907 (CBS Season 51, Episode 192) Victor strikes a deal with Kyle. Adam and Chelsea make a pact. Summer enlists Phyllis' and Nick's help.

RE: Nikki and Josh. What exactly happened to Don Diamont in 1996 that we saw Brad written out? It’s a bit odd the show spent nearly a year of the build-up of Brad and Nikki but it comes to an abrupt end between Victor’s shooting and Brad’s exit after being a suspect for it. Then just a few months later Nikki is hitched to Josh so quickly. I seriously have to wonder if Josh was given what was planned storylines for Brad? On the flip side Hope returned and it seemed Victor and Hope were destined to reconcile until Victor pursued Diane and then Hope got relegated to a bizarre triangle with Ashley and Kurt before leaving…I know Signy was trying to break into primetime at the time so she didn’t resign. She got that recurring role on X-Files but then quickly ended up on GL. Everything worked out well in the end for the show, but I have to wonder to what Bell’s original plan was before the show derailed as summer 1996 went on.

The homeless guy is Luna’s dad? How lame.

Friday June 28: Okay I admit I haven’t watched any of this week at all until today other than reading recaps but from what I saw today maybe had some potential for better or for worse lol. Diane/Kyle: This story still doesn’t make any sense at all whatsoever and is very illogical. In fact this story has made zero sense from the get go and shows JG can’t even tell a simply family conflict story. That said, we’re back to Audra/Kyle/Summer and I’m here for it after we were robbed last summer, but too little too late tbh. Faith and Lucy scenes where nice, actually it would be nicer if Faith hadn’t been abruptly SOARSed into college and just have Faith be a HS senior giving Lucy tips on how to handle the mean girls. Meanwhile Faith and Moses are broken up…? Yikes. Moses should’ve been causing ruckus for Devon & Lily the past couple years but unfortunately JG has no imagination. And as for Sharon…yikes. I know we’ve all complained about the lack of Sharon having story for the past few years but we don’t need for Sharon to be a kleptomaniac again, or sleep with every man in town, or go just go bonkers again (remember when Pratt said Sharon was the new Sheila?)

The way they have been writing lately that idea will probably go over their heads 🤣

Wake me up when Lucy on Y&R has a teenage angsty fallout with her parents and runs away to find her Uncle Finn

Hahahaha I’ve been playing catch since that vacation but I agree with everything you said! I meant to comment on Abby whining to Billy about not knowing about Ashley lol….yah I was wondering if JG actually reads this board has decided to make this a running gag LMAO… And yes, the spray tanning has gotten out of hand on this show. Use to be Stafford with all the embarrassing splotch jobs but yeah I looking at Thompson…yikes.

You’re welcome!!! I knew we discussed it a long time ago so I knew you would enjoy. You definitely make some great points especially about the forced wackiness. As for Sheila Kelley as a gay man I definitely never found her attractive in that manner LOL, but she was pretty and was very charismatic. I think her character development arc was one of the better things about the later years. I had wanted Kelley to succeed when she was later on Sisters but the preposterousness of her character’s story was a non-starter ended up DOA. And the whole Arnie/Roxanne/Dave triangle story was so…boring and weird. They even continued that plot in the 2002 reunion movie. A thankless role…he had at least one multiple episode arc in Season 7 about a crazy stalker. He didn’t even make it all through the final 8th season as he was dropped for another actor/character they hired in a last minute rush to save the show. But it was already too late. That and the “lesbian” kisses between Abby and CJ that went completely unresolved. You’re welcome!!! I did the same for the most part although Linda’s murder on Knots left me in the cold for a good while there. I finally caught up on everything LA Law when it used to be rerun constantly on A&E. Rosenberg fit in decently and was something fun, but Mazar was obviously too NYC for the show (Mazar to me always has had limited range but that’s another story). The show also tried pushing a a naive fundamentalist Christian character this season but flopped as the actress was terrible.

Ah yes the Tartikoff era was over, and really for a lot of 80s leftovers that 1991-92 season was rough on them. LA Law’s ratings definitely reflect the rise and fall of the show from a creative standpoint as well as other factors you mentioned: 1986-87: #21 (tied with My Sister Sam, originally aired on Friday nights against Falcon Crest til moving to Thursdays mid season.) 1987–88: #12 (tied with Moonlighting) 1988-89: #10 1989-90: #14 (Tied with Murder She Wrote) 1990-91: #13 1991-92: #19 1992-93 #40 1993-94: #36 (tied with Unsolved Mysteries and cancelled).

I wasn’t sure where else to post this scathing review from January 1992, but I’ll post it here as the old LA Law thread is archived. Boy the show imploded in its last 2-3 years didn’t it? Obviously the constant turnover of cast, writers, and producers didn’t help. I liked Maisus & Tinker’s work on St Elsewhere and other work later on but their LA run was a misfire. @DRW50 @Soapsuds @kalbir @Khan @Vee @Chris B Entertainment Weekly January 31, 1992 (by Ken Tucker) Sure, other series are having their problems these days — Designing Women, for example, still hasn’t found a way to work Julia Duffy’s tart comedic skills into its increasingly sweet mix; Knots Landing voluntarily stopped production for a while to lubricate its creaking joints, to apply a fresh coat of oiliness to William Devane. But no long-running show is floundering quite as badly as L.A. Law. What used to be the most brisk, unpredictable drama on television has become a Madmagazine parody of itself, teeming with corny caricatures instead of solid characters, clichés instead of crisp dialogue. Once firmly lodged near the top of the Nielsens, Law‘s ratings have fluctuated wildly of late, and hasn’t your Friday-morning water cooler chat about the show taken on a grumpy, who-cares air?: Why has venerable Leland McKenzie (Richard Dysart) been reduced to brief comic bits , with monkeys? When did the pugnaciousness of Tommy Mullaney (John Spencer) sour into sneery smugness? When did Ann Kelsey and Stuart Markowitz (Jill Eikenberry and Michael Tucker) become the dullest couple on earth? It’s significant that the worry and discontent of people involved with Law has become increasingly public. NBC Entertainment president Warren Littlefield recently told The New York Times: ”I’ve been very involved in trying to fix the show…Where are the wonderful character revelations we’ve gotten used to seeing?” In USA Today, Corbin Bernsen made an open plea to the show’s writers to enliven his character, the once-a-wise-guy, now-a-snooze divorce lawyer Arnie Becker. Nonetheless, Bernsen said that if ”you look at the worst of the shows, I still think they’re way up there in quality.” Compared with, say, Jake and the Fatman, I guess. And this month, that journal of postmodern pop-cultural analysis, Redbook, has offered an article headlined ”The Devil in Miss Donohoe,” in which the actress who plays Law‘s blunt, frisky C.J. Lamb theorizes that NBC doesn’t want to show us an ”irretrievably gay” C.J. — one possible reason her role seems to have been de-emphasized this season. Sigh. Remember the good old days, when Amanda Donohoe’s character smooched Michelle Green’s Abby Perkins? Whatever happened to C.J.’s sexuality? Sex, in fact — once one of Law‘s most potent elements — has become downright embarrassing on this show. Remember, long ago, the hot clinches between Harry Hamlin’s Michael Kuzak and Susan Dey’s Grace (”Oh, Mickey!”) Van Owen? Compare that couple with the new romantic duo of Arnie and his former secretary, Roxanne (Susan Ruttan). Here we have an ongoing plot line whose sole intention is to prove that consummated lust is a bore. No, these days, interoffice trysting at the firm of McKenzie, Brackman has become so matter-of-fact that the affair between Cecil Hoffmann’s Zoey and Blair Underwood’s Jonathan seems less like spontaneous combustion than the writing staff’s statistical inevitability. (”All right now, which two characters haven’t we put in bed together yet? Zoey and Jonathan? Oooh-a little Jungle Fever thing! Great!”) Law‘s current cast even has an extremely promising candidate to heat up the show — sloe-eyed secretary Gwen, played by Sheila Kelley. Kelley is so inherently incendiary that Arsenio Hall threw a jacket over her miniskirted thighs when she recently appeared on his show. But in most episodes this year on Law, Gwen has been kept in the background, glowing, smoldering. By now it’s obvious that every one of the characters introduced this season has been a disaster. Michael Cumpsty seems to be a talented actor miscast as the chesty hunk Frank Kittredge. Conchata Ferrell’s Susan Bloom, who spends entirely too much time blowing kisses at Leland, has succeeded only too well in making her pushy, obnoxious entertainment lawyer a figure to be avoided at all costs. (We’ve already said bye-bye to rookie Tom ”We Hardly Knew Ye” Verica, whose never-established character got booted from the firm at Christmastime.) Lately, Law has been calling in its markers, attempting to recapture the old glory by squeezing scripts out of former executive producer David E. Kelley (whose Jan. 9 story was a disappointing one, save for a showstopping turn by Kevin Spacey as a wealthy loony-bird) and the series’ cocreator himself, Steven Bochco. The Jan. 16 show, cowritten by Bochco and David Milch, was, if anything, a bit worse than Kelley’s. The episode fell back on an an- noying trick the series has used throughout its history, the old when-in- doubt-get-Benny-in-troublebit: Hauled into court for taking in a 12-year- old boy without adopting him, sweet Benny (Larry Drake) was used once again to jerk our tears, and this time, the manipulation was just too mechanical, too crass. The person most likely to take the fall for Law‘s present droopiness is new executive producer Patricia Green. But maybe it’s not entirely Green’s, or anyone else’s, fault. In 1986, L.A. Law debuted at the height of the Reagan era as a shrewd celebration of the yuppie ethos, reveling in the revitalized wealth, power, and glamour of the corporate world (it would take thirtysomething, a year later, to raise the specters of doubt and guilt — which is why it was never as popular as Law). But in 1992, L.A. Law is disintegrating as fast as the economy: It’s Bushed. Perhaps, like Hill Street Blues before it, L.A. Law is a TV groundbreaker that stayed around a season or two after its pop-cultural moment had passed. Maybe it’s time McKenzie, Brackman went belly up. C-

I meant to comment on it earlier this week but was a bit shocked to see TSJ and Tucker out. Wow. JG and Kent are really putting their heads together LOL. Now spoilers for the last week of June from Soap Opera News: Monday, June 24, 2024 – Episode #12898 Victor plays hardball with Kyle, Victoria struggles with family matters, Nikki and Nick compare notes about Adam, and Traci enjoys her time with Alan in the City of Love. Tuesday, June 25, 2024 – Episode #12899 Sharon reminisces about her past, Devon and Billy vie for control, and Nick looks out for Phyllis. Wednesday, June 26, 2024 – Episode #12900 Adam and Chelsea receive disturbing-news, Devon questions Lily’s decision making, and Jill gives Billy an ultimatum. Thursday, June 27, 2024 – Episode #12901 Victor uses Kyle to outsmart Jack, Audra plots her next move, and Billy is bothered by Chelsea’s bond with Adam. Friday, June 28, 2024 – Episode #12902 Jack and Diane worry about Kyle’s future, Sharon makes a distress call, and Sally and Chloe take on a new project.

100% agree to all of this after catching up with this week. I wish the show would scale back on the ridiculous business stories. Diane/Kyle makes zero sense and is terribly written when it could be written so much better or at least have some psychological meaning behind it, something JG could never do. I admit Friday’s twist ending with Audra and Victor was a nice one but honestly would have been more impressive 20 years ago under a better writing regime. Ashley’s DID story was wrapped up too quick on Monday ugh. Like I mentioned elsewhere the Alan/Martin and “childhood trauma” twists were abrupt, ludicrous, and not fully explored at all I noted it the Summer and Sally scenes were nice…but over freaking Chloe…? Sally has a better friend in Audra. Seriously we should have some real drama between these two like Summer approving of Sally’s work but making final edits behind her back. And thanks @Taoboi 🙂

@Taoboi Here I am lol. I took a much needed mini-vacation my first week of summer vacation and only saw parts of Tuesday’s episode so I’ll share my thoughts on the week once I get caught up 😊 That is hopefully I don’t have to FF most of the week because of that OCD story the less we speak of the better…but I did like the Summer/Sally scenes from what did see on Tuesday.

Spoilers for week of June 10th: Monday, June 10, 2024 – Episode #12888 Victor holds Cole and Michael accountable for their actions, Ashley travels outside her comfort zone, and Audra experiences a professional setback. Tuesday, June 11, 2024 – Episode #12889 Victor reveals a new business strategy to the family, Nikki confides in Lauren, and Adam experiences déjà vu with Victoria. Wednesday, June 12, 2024 - Episode #12890 Victor and Nikki share a difference of opinion about her connection with Jack, Claire lets her guard down with Kyle, and Nick questions Victoria about her future plans. Thursday, June 13, 2024 - Episode #12891 Cole and Victoria revisit their past, Audra has a rude awakening, and Summer struggles co-parenting with Kyle. Friday, June 14, 2024 – Episode #12892 Victor retaliates against Jack, Billy turns on the charm with Lily, and Diane settles unfinished business with Nikki.

This story began back in December/January with Ashley & Tucker having alternating memories of what happened in Paris, so clearly it was planned without an ending from the get go. Ashley referenced childhood trauma (Dina leaving?) but we don’t even know what this trauma refers to as not even a hint was given. I didn’t watch OLTL at the time but for years and years before JG even came to Y&R I’d always see almost universal praise by online soap fans for his early 90s soap work with Michael Malone but obviously in retrospect that was just a one trick pony. All that needed to be said, Amen.

Alan and Martin’s fall off that balcony makes Dex & Alexis 1989 fall on Dynasty look like a James Cameron movie. What a stupid way to end this story. It would have made more sense if Tucker was as darker than we thought and gaslighted Ashley to the point she broke instead of this utter ludicrous last minute twin twist that makes zero sense and hadn’t been addressed until this past week. Also Michelle Stafford didn’t deserve that Emmy and should never have been nominated in the first place. But I know the Emmys are a joke and play favorites.

What in the hell did this story about Ashley’s DID become about? Tacking on an evil twin is ridiculously tacky but Ashley being violated by an evil twin (again!) is wayyyy too much. JG needs to be dismissed so badly…

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m dying laughing right now

Silly autocorrect 🤣 But yes…the other theory I saw is Alan is just gaslighting Ashley and is really Rick Bladeson with plastic surgery in the flesh given JG penchant of visiting old villains this past year.

Y&R spoilers for Tuesday June 4 based on the Canadian episode has Alan the psychiatrist telling Ashley that he has an evil twin brother who’s been impersonating the psychiatrist and may have been responsible for causing DID… Lord is Josh Griffith trying to do a reimagining of the Blade/Ashley/Rick story?

This was the first one I immediately thought of as well. It’s weird because for whatever reason she got strangely blamed by some for stuff for already ongoing stories like Subsex, Bo the Mime, Princess Gina, botching a Kate/Nicholas/Billie triangle etc. I guess Corday and Langan just threw her under the bus at the time when Days was unraveling fast. Of course the Langan era of Days was…something else to put it politely lol… I know Jessica Klein’s disastrous ATWT stint was mentioned already but basically ATWT was a revolving door there 1996-1998: February 1996 – December 1996 Stephen Black and Henry Stern December 1996 – May 1997 Stephen Demorest, Mel Brez and Addie Walsh May 1997 – October 1997 Jessica Klein October-December 1997Stephen Demorest, Mel Brez and Addie Walsh December 1997– February 1998 Addie Walsh What a mess. Also Victor Miller and Michael Conforti only wrote for GL October 1996-February 1997 as they cleaned up McTavish’s mess but were soon replaced by B&E.

Thanks @janea4old for the detailed summary as well!! Haha some of it becomes a blur over time, especially when I use to FF anything Kevin and Chloe there. And some details like where Esther is a receptionist is at I forgot myself lol.

Esther is wealthy from Katherine’s money but hasn’t been a maid in years after she quit in 2015 after Colin sexually harassed her. She mainly works in Crimson Lights and has some job at Fenmore’s. Devon and Abby live at the Chancellor mansion nowadays and I think Chance does occasionally or something.

From Soap Opera News, here's the same old same old first week of June for B&B: The Bold and the Beautiful B&B Spoilers June 3 – 7, 2024. The upcoming week will feature a series of intense moments and much more. Monday, June 3, 2024 – Episode #9285 Brooke and Hope fight to keep the Hope for the Future line alive; Li attempts to halt Bill and Luna’s paternity test. Tuesday, June 4, 2024 – Episode #9286 Ridge makes a final decision between Steffy and Hope; Deacon gives Tom a substantial gift for saving Sheila’s life; Katie learns from R.J. that Bill might be Luna’s father. Wednesday, June 5, 2024 – Episode #9287 Ridge makes a surprising offer to Brooke; Hope vows that Steffy will not get rid of the Logans; the identity of Luna’s father is revealed. Thursday, June 6, 2024 – Episode #9288 Li gives Katie a cryptic warning about Poppy; Steffy clarifies her perspective when Finn defends Hope. Friday, June 7 2024 – Episode #9289 Hope finds herself in an unexpected situation.