P.J.

I've never seen that; but I can't recall reading much about their early relationship. It sounds like she got along with Gregg Marx.

The only thing useful about Rosanna was MW's Carly. What fascination Marland had with poor little rich girls I will never understand. I guess she kind of filled the ingénue void left when Byrne left/was recast with Heather Rattray. But OY vey...if only she'd had as much talent to fill her bra with as she did flesh.... I don't remember much of Babs/Gunnar, but I remember loving them. But I do have a special place in my heart for Hal&Babs. I thought BH and CZ had great chemistry. I was kind of shocked to find out they didn't really get along all that well.

I think it's less about Deas as an actor and more about Deas as Tom Hughes. I honestly don't even really remember him on ATWT (damn the education system in this country anyway...LOL) but I loved the first couple of years of him on GL.

Well, it's hard to keep track of thirty years' worth of co-stars. She completely lucked out getting to nearly sleep with Gregg Marx's Tom..

I do wish Marland had explored/addressed the way Emma isolated herself after Harvey's death. It's like she never really moved on after his death. Odd that Bea Reardon was kind of the same way---but at least they addressed that, having thought she was abandoned by Tom (?) when he was really dead. Oh, and about the refrigerator---Cal and Jarod (Iva's bio dad) literally had a little war trying to win Emma's affections with new appliances. It was a thing.

By that time Tom had been an adult for like thirty years, LOL. *shivers thinking about a Tom/Molly hookup* Thank God they never went there.

Well, it's not like other siblings didn't share lovers. Even the stalwart Bob did sisters. It's just that their were six of them, which has to be the biggest family ATWT ever had. Tom Hughes had plenty of half-siblings, but Chuckie died young; he barely knew Scott and Chris was about three generations younger than him. Hard to share a ho that way. LOL.

One, I loved the Snyder kitchen too. The only thing really tacky about it was the water heater in plain sight, which probably no one's done since the '30's in the first place. I wouldn't consider the Snyders tacky at all. Down to earth, definitely. I think some of the gee-golly-Mayberryness of them was overdone at times---I caught one clip (it must have been the first Christmas they'd been on the show) where Emma gave people home made bread, of all things...and sometimes it seemed like they had a tradition for every day of the week. But for the most part, they were the decent people you kinda/sorta knew from down the street/road/hall who would lend you a helping hand without you having to ask. I loved Jack, and for the most part his relationship with Holden. I wouldn't have wanted him as a recast Caleb---one, Caleb by that time had too much history to simply ignore it. Sure, you could have had him divorce Julie. But you couldn't rewrite his history with his family, and frankly, by then I was tired of him and Holden fighting over women, their childhood, and everything else under the sun. They got away with it with Brad (Peck's version) because in the scheme of things he'd been a minor character, on for what, a year and a half? And two, because the show needed fresh blood. I thought he really fit in with Emma, Holden and Lily. It's not his fault they were the only Snyders left. And ATWT was always reluctant to cast anyone as simply someone new in town unrelated to anyone.

Meg emerged once they got her away from any man who would have fallen at Lily's feet---ie, Tonio---and into a more adult story. Any other "teen" actress never got an "A" story. Lily always WAS the "A" story. Dee with James? SAY WHAT?? Part of the reason no one talks about Brad Hollister is that he had no family on that show for the last 25 years. No one would remember Jennifer Ryan had not Kim and Babs still been around. And the Dobson era is not fondly remembered in general.

I FLOVED Pam Wagner!! It totally sucked that EVERY younger actress chilled in MB's shade in the late 80's. Brad Hollister? I don't even remember him. But one of my earliest soap memories is Melinda's death. Thunking her head on a boat---what a cruel way to go.

Well, Lucinda did lose her company. But yeah, she was never in danger of losing the Walsh estate---even if it did shrink horribly over the years. I don't recall if she got any of Whit's money---but I don't doubt that even Bob had to pay some kind of alimony after their divorce. No matter what kind of wife you were back then, you got alimony.

That was when someone gave a damn about ATWT being a multi-generational show. I don't even really know where Lisa got her money. I just assume it was mostly from marrying and divorcing (or being widowed) well.

oh, come on. She was mostly the money behind these endeavors. Not that she wasn't portrayed as a competent business woman, but we all know her true talent was marrying up.

I don't think Barbara was mad at either of them; even though Margo's affair with James meant they would never be friends. Barbara was tired of being shat on by life. She survived James, but Gunnar died shortly thereafter, then she lost Brian over Paul issues to Shannon. She decided she wasn't going to be hurt by men anymore. Tom and Margo were having problems. Tom agreed to help Barbara start up her first clothing line, Simply Barbara. Tom and Babs did kiss---but he pulled away and wanted to keep it strictly business. So there was some desire on her part---but I think it was more about power than love.

Well, some of it was no doubt a reaction to Luke propelling GH to number one. But with Nick especially I think it was just writing a stereotypical Greek male. He seemed to be modeled a bit on Ari Onassis. And I think Nick was intentionally written "stronger" to differentiate him from the somewhat wussy Dan.

Well, I had forgotten Betsy had just learned Dan was her father---but WASP or not, I expected more emotion than Kim's borderline creepy beatific smile. At least David managed to looked pissed off at his son's death. And props that they used "Look to This Day", or whatever the poem is.

It wasn't that it was just silent that bugged me though---it's that no one was even touching during the funeral. As if the director glued everyone's ass to the seat so they wouldn't ruin his camera angles or something. You'd think either Kim or Ellen would be trying to comfort Betsy.

Yes, that's Tom. That's Tom Tammi in the role. I thought the funeral was oddly, eerily silent. Maybe I'm just used to the modern way of things, with lines and asides cut into the scenes. They all looked grumpy to me. Except of course Kim, who's giving the most stoned version of a smile I've ever seen.

now that I think of it, some of that might be on the Babs/James dvd I waited too long to order.

If you look for it (and I don't go out of my way to do so) I think there's something available for everyone from the "modern" era of ATWT (defined as 1979 on, from rumors of what P&G has kept and could be made available in some way to fans). From that era---probably the beginning of the Barbara/James story. I know parts of James/Barbara/Gunnar are online, but I'm not sure the beginning of CZ's portrayal of Barbara is.

The original Jennifer/Bob/Kim triangle through the John/Kim/Dan/Susan years. Somehow, I can't really wrap my mind around "bad", caberet-singing Kim selfishly stealing her sister's man right out from under her. And J/K/D/S is just classic soap opera in my mind. A close second would be early Lisa---but I've seen some clips here and there and it seems so slow (and it's in black and white) that I don't know if it would really grab me.

WORD.

It's Carjack's third anniversary today..... Damn, I can't believe it's three years already that ATWT's been gone.

It wasn't exactly a secret, Amanda was unsure of the specific provisions of it. (which is stupid. what trust fund kid doesn't know exactly when they get their money?) Not that I blame Katherine in the least....who would let those two loose with money? They'd blow through it in six months.

Poor Peter Parros!! I know people think he's simply boring....but he's given nothing to do! He was literally standing right beside Veronica during that rambling speech, and you would have never known it. They didn't cut to him, he didn't utter a word while his wife went on this hateful vent. I kept thinking this is the perfect moment for David to grow a pair of balls or at least show us something about the character other than his ability to clean up after his disgusting friend Jim....but no, TP treats him like a nonentity until the very last second, when he weakly offers Jeffrey a hint of compassion. I think Schneider fits the role of Jim---but he's not a patriarch. Katherine is every inch a matriarch though. If she was just a little less cold towards her own children, she'd be a tough-love Miss Ellie.