Everything posted by Khan
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Y&R: ATWT alum joins
I'll just pretend her real name is "Judith."
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YR Promo for this week
Josh Morrow acts as if he ate some bad sushi. At the rate Jordan's going, she'll be plunging all of Genoa City into terminal darkness by next week.
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Primetime Soaps
"Sisters" fit well with the NBC brand, but I think it would've fit on ABC, too.
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Dynasty Discussion Thread
I agree. Watching it again on Pluto TV, I think there is much about the final season that I like. The storytelling is more focused, with everything built toward one main goal. Characters have real, understandable motivations. The dialogue isn't as cringey and actors are being directed to ACT rather than just pose and make OTT pronouncements. And while it's obvious that the budget has been reduced - as one poster said in the Primetime Soaps thread, Joan Collins seems to be wearing a lot of Chanel (or Chanel-like) outfits this season - there's still enough glamour there, I think, in the wardrobe and sets to satisfy those who watched mostly for that stuff. I, myself, would have gone further with the revamp, making scenes shorter and switching out the old, orchestrations for synthesized music. Overall, though, I would agree that David Paulsen did a decent job. However, at the same time, you're right, @Chris 2, in that it was a tired show, and not just because Linda Evans was gone and Joan Collins was reduced to nominal special guest star. (Frankly, as iconic as JC and Alexis were, both on the show and in the '80's, I think Alexis wore out her welcome long before the last season). IMO, DYNASTY was tired, because its' excessiveness had taken so much out of the show and its' characters. For all the things that David Paulsen did right with the last season, it still felt like coming down after snorting a yacht full of cocaine. Paulsen probably needed to take a page from Bill Bell's Y&R playbook, phase out the Carringtons and Colbys and rebuild the show around a new family or two, but obviously, that wasn't feasible.
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Ryan's Hope Discussion Thread
Conversely, Bill Bell and Agnes Nixon hated the hour format, because they felt it required too much padding. I agree. Clearly, Douglas Marland loved to tell big stories with a lot of characters. (He would have killed on a streaming series, by the way). A half-hour soap doesn't lend itself to big "umbrella stories," because the amount of time per episode is so limited.
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Ratings From the 90's
I agree. Even a brand-new, thirty-minute soap can be a crap shoot. I'd argue, however, that many of the later ones failed for very specific reasons. LOVING failed, for instance, because it never had a strong enough identity or theme. TC failed, because, even though it had MORE of an identity than LOVING, it still was a spin-off of a failed soap opera, and it didn't have a strong story to help launch it either. (Morgan Fairchild and her boots arriving by helicopter is a great scene, but it's not a story.) Both CAPITOL and GENERATIONS were well-structured, but their executions were all wrong. Neither had good writing when they started. (CAPITOL, however, did get better as time went on. GENERATIONS, on the other hand, never got the chance.) And PC, IMO, never got out from under GH's shadow, which is ironic, because it probably was more hospital-centric than GH had been in years. Even when it became DARK SHADOWS: THE NEW BREED, it still felt to me like GH2. B&B, on the other hand, survived, not just because of Bill Bell's skills as a storyteller, but also because it had a real, discernible theme: a family drama set against the backdrop of the fashion industry in L.A.* B&B experienced some growing pains, of course, but I think you could see the potential from the start. (Potential that, I'm sad to say, Bradley has squandered.) You can blame NBC Daytime for TEXAS being an inferior version of DALLAS. The Corringtons and Paul Rauch's original concept was for a soap set in the antebellum South, but NBCD wanted something that was more in line with DALLAS, which had become a massive hit. Personally, I think the Corrington's original idea sounds intriguing, but I don't know how sustainable it'd have been as an ongoing, daily serial. (*I think it would've made more sense to set it in NYC, the home of "Fashion Week," but whatever.)
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Ratings From the 90's
I know the Christmas episode from that year credits her and JER as HW's.
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Dynasty Discussion Thread
By the 1988-89 season, ABC had begun to carve out a new reputation for itself as a serious challenger to NBC and its' upscale, quality programming. The network wanted to be known as something other than "Aaron's Broadcasting Company." DYNASTY was seen as a tired, useless relic of that period. Unless the show had miraculously clawed its way back into the Top 10, it was a goner. I agree. Like you said, @soapfan770, DYNASTY was flailing in the ratings. "Cheers" was their main competitor, and it was handing them their ass every week. No way was ABC going to renew DYNASTY for another season. David Paulsen's efforts to turn DYNASTY around and bring it into the post-Reagan era were commendable, but he and the rest of the team should have crafted a series finale that would have tied up all loose ends.
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Best/Worst Soap Wedding Dresses, Hats, Headpieces and Veils
So would Michael.
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ALL: Drag and disguises.
They say one should never speak ill of the drag, but, dear God, that look is hideous.
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Y&R: ATWT alum joins
I would have named her "Margo."
- Primetime Soaps
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Dynasty Discussion Thread
Once Steven left Denver, Sammy Jo no longer had any real purpose on this show other than she was the mother of one of Blake's grandchildren. Maybe it was Abby Ewing? ("Donna Mills is back - and DYNASTY's got her!")
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Dynasty Discussion Thread
An online blogger named Jackson Upperco (http://www.jacksonupperco.com) put it best: Talk about a wretched storyline! Where does the show go from here? Either she’s crazy or the show is now supernatural — and true to form, Dynasty refuses to commit to either. I, myself, would have explained it away as a brain tumor.
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Primetime Soaps
Ironically, "thirtysomething" was one show I looked forward to watching every week (in bed, because it technically was on past my bedtime) and I was way, way, WAY outside their target audience in more ways than one, lol. I, too, would love to know which couple Gary and Val replaced on KL. I have to assume they were different from Kenny/Ginger, who were the show's designated young couple. Maybe they were a couple who'd been married before but were now giving holy matrimony another try, lol.
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ALL: Drag and disguises.
What about Wendi, the mixologist during Claire Labine's run? Should we count her, too?
- Ryan's Hope Discussion Thread
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LIFETIME: "Ladies of the 80's: A Diva's Christmas"
Me, too. I don't think the wig flatters Morgan at all. Nor does her outfit. It's a little too "Rose Nylund" for me. It's really a shame how she has allowed herself to fall into the cosmetic surgery trap. BITD, I thought she was one of the most beautiful women on TV.
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ALL: Drag and disguises.
This might not count, but I recall actor/playwright Charles Busch playing a modeling agent named "Peg Barlow" on OLTL during a summer storyline where Jen Rappaport had run off to NYC for reasons I can't recall now. In that case, however, Busch wasn't portraying a man who had disguised himself as a woman. AFAIK, Peg was written and portrayed as female.
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Primetime Soaps
That's a very good point, @Broderick; and one, I believe, David Jacobs himself recognized when he introduced Abby in the second season. I know Jacobs liked to say that Abby was in the works all along - just as he liked to tell people that he made Karen so aggressive in the pilot, because viewers would have been wondering who was going to be "the J.R." on the show - but I don't necessarily believe his claims, lol. I think he saw that the intended "'Scenes from a Marriage x 4'" concept wasn't working, especially when half the cast simply wasn't up to the challenge, so he decided to bring on a single person - and a recently divorced mother, at that - in order to create more variety in the storylines. I also think one major drawback in KL's initial premise and first season is that the four couples are more alike than they are not. Gary/Val and Kenny/Ginger were ostensibly younger than Sid/Karen and Richard/Laura, but Jacobs and his team didn't make a big deal about that. (For one thing, would the two younger, newly married couples feel all that comfortable hanging out all the time with the older ones?) Nor did they explore the inherent dramatic possibilities in what was probably an interfaith union between Jewish Richard and Irish Catholic/Protestant Laura. I realize that one could push boundaries only so far on network television in 1979, but why not have an interracial couple living in the cul-de-sac? Or (gulp) a same-sex couple? The more varied the couplings, I think, the more interesting they could have been to people watching.
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Y&R: ATWT alum joins
IOW, Jordan feels guilty that she and Eve never had an opportunity to make amends, so she's taking her anger and frustration out on Victor. Again, though, why wait this long? Did she really need to steal Cole and Victoria's baby, raise it and train it to hate the Newmans in order to get her revenge? She had plenty of other chances to ruin the Newmans - hell, she could've been the one who sabotaged that plane that crashed with Nick on it during the MAB era!
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Primetime Soaps
Yes. At the outset, David Jacobs envisioned KL to be a sort of American version of Ingmar Bergman's "Scenes from a Marriage." He also drew upon his own recent experience as story editor for "Family" - where, coincidentally, Edward Zwick and Marshall Herskovitz had also cut their teeth - in developing the show.
- A Mother Knows... DAYS Preview for 11/27-12/1
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Y&R: ATWT alum joins
Well, if they were estranged, why is Jordan so intent on avenging her sister's death? And why did she wait so long to set this plan into motion? So many questions.... You know, they could have hired Colleen Zenk to be a recast for Lindsay Wells. I'm just saying.
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LIFETIME: "Ladies of the 80's: A Diva's Christmas"
I would put even the Lechowicks' work on the show up there with "Hill Street Blues," "St. Elsewhere" and other dramas from the '80's that really challenged the audience's expectations of what one could do every week on television. Last time I saw Michelle Phillips online, she looked very frail. I don't know if she would have been up for appearing in this movie, or any movie, for that matter. It doesn't help that she's heavier these days, too. Her extra pounds make her face look heavier and puffier than it should.