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Agreed. I did not think Jennifer would grow on me, and there's still traits that are unlikable (no Housewife is perfect, not even my lovely tone-deaf Ramona), but she's entertaining now, and she's no longer a one-upper, thank God. Meanwhile, Jackie is miss Debbie Downer who just seems sour all the time. Did Dolores make it nice (to quote Dorinda) completely? No. But were her observations wrong? Nope. Jackie isn't gelling. I think Melissa feels compelled/producer-coaxed to be that one person that's nice to her to tie her into the group "organically." ATL: Speaking of producer-driven, Marlo's event looked like some last minute shindig that was thrown together to be filmed. Some random empty space, a bogus "valet," sad seating areas, and one wall of 7 ratty wigs. Thank you Kenya for coming in and making it interesting. LOL. Having Nene come in and have lunch with Kandi really accentuates the fact that Nene is such an outsider in this group, which is otherwise doing just fine and creating enough fun and drama without her big stank attitude. If Nene wants to start biting at the hand that feeds her (i.e. Andy Cohen), watch out, because this season is proving that Nene could be a thing of the past and still thrive. BTW: I'm glad some of you like Tanya, and like, okay, she's harmless. But she looks so THIRSTY. So eager and desperate. Yovanna is desperate, but messy and catty so it comes through stronger. But make no mistake, Tanya's itching to hold a peach too.

I'd say in the past 3 years, Dems have paid more attention to the courts and can see rights slowly slipping away or being in grave danger (Roe v. Wade; LGBTQ, etc.) . With that, I wouldn't mind an ad that subtly suggests RBG may not make it another 5 years, juxtaposed with beer-loving Brett Kavanaugh breaking down under interrogation while a level-headed Christine Blasey Ford speaks the truth (not her truth; the truth). Remind Dems what's at stake in all levels of government.

Exactly. And I *really* wish they'd do some ads focusing on how Trump is NOT a Christian. Go for those narrow-minded evangelicals with their heads in the sand. He's not a man of God. He doesn't worship any God other than money. He doesn't attend church. He's not a member of any congregation. He couldn't recite The Lords Prayer or John 3:16 if his life depended on it. Point this out and focus on all the unholy, sinful acts he and his family have committed. If there is a God or Heaven, Trump is on the side of the fallen angel down below.

Agreed. Taking the high road has gotten us nowhere, sorry Michelle Obama. Break it down to the simpletons of the heartland and beyond. He looks like a fool. We look like fools. The world is laughing at us. Hell, at this point, do ads telling us that he and Melania sleep in separate rooms and he was boinking a porn star while she was preggars. Go for the ugly stuff because he's an ugly man, inside and out.

The OC: What a [!@#$%^&*] storm this Key West trip is. I gotta say, other than Vicki's wipeout at the end requiring her usual medical attention, I'd rather hang with the tres amigas than the suckfest of Kelly/Braunwyn/Emily. Even Gina is more tolerable with the "old ladies." I *loved* Bravo's cheeky editing showcasing the old women whooping it up having fun while the younger women were tired, staying in their rooms looking pooped. Ugh at Kelly's continued outbursts and inability to control herself. Total gutter trash. It's no wonder she's good friends with Brandi. Side note: We were in Key West three years ago and went to that gay bar. LOL. It was such a fun hot mess, but the drag queens were pretty terrible. LOL. One of them shown last night on OC is one I saw in person. She resembles Drag Race's Thorgy Thor but ten times worse. But gosh it was fun. I hope to see more of Duval Street next week.

That's true. We certainly haven't seen the last of her, thankfully. @DramatistDreamer Yes. He's a turd too. And sadly, he's the only candidate I've seen commercials for.

I'm very disappointed in this news too. I was hoping for a miracle in Iowa but we can't even get that far... this stinks. Meanwhile, we still have turds like Tulsi sticking around.

@NothinButAttitude Agreed on No Need 4 Nene. Granted, who knows what's going to happen down the line, but the Housewives and Friends of they had last night bring more than enough shade and reading for filth. This would've been the perfect opportunity to see ATL persevere without their usual anchor/safety net. Re: New Jersey. I was willing to give Jackie a chance, but she's such a Debbie Downer. In the words of Vile Kyle, she's looking for tits on an ant. Meanwhile, this is giving me all the feels for Dolores, who's finally out of the shadows of Soggy and is making a name for herself. I'm finally a big fan of hers. And yes, her son Frankie could make many panties out there quite moist Re: OC Sloppy Kelly continues to shovel out more slop and messy garbage. When you're rooting for Tamra to come out on top, you know you've got a problem.

:::shrug::: I liked it. I don't mind the continuing story aspect of it. Agree with @Vee about last week's Darlene/Jackie altercation. Powerful stuff. I think they wisely had Jackie say that Darlene can't take Roseanne's place as being the matriarch of the family. You just know that was inspired by the haters out there...

I know I'm going against "my own kind," but right now, setting up the Democratic candidate as an openly gay man equals an automatic 2nd term for Trump. The haters are too emboldened right now to even consider a queer president. Pass.

Yep! A lot of soaps were actually on an upswing in '93 and early '94 that got halted by OJ interruptions. Y&R had a few weeks in the 9's in early '94.

In general, it seems like a lull for soaps in '87 with the No. 1 shows (Y&R, GH) mostly staying in the 7's.

Summer of '87 and onward sure had some funky numbers and changes at the top rankings.

Agreed. Overall, Wednesday's debate was a big fail and we learned nothing new about the candidates; what their differences are; how their policies and "plans" differ from one another. We know Warren and Bernie's stance on healthcare, how about the other 8 candidates on stage be given 90 seconds each to explain their plans? There's no need to waste time asking what they'd do to Trump after he's out of office. We know they all despise him. I'm tired of these moderators/networks of trying to create buzzworthy moments and easy click-baiting headline makers, pitting candidates against one another for unnecessary reasons. "Donald Trump. Terrible for America. Great for CBS" --- Les Moonves.

Ugh, that is sad to hear. Monique has been one of my top favorites (alongside The Grande Dame) for the past couple seasons now. Great attitude, great life, fantastic hubby, children brought up right... the whole package. No wonder those broke heifers hate her. I hope she stays

Oh honey.... asking the black Bill Gates to hold the iPhone camera while you pucker and pose was NOT a good idea...

I could see that, re: Jackie, Becky & Louise owning the Lunch Box. Hell, this would be the perfect time to bring back Martin Mull as Leon, one of the few important characters from the original that still hasn't been touched upon (other than Andy, lol, who's probably in the attic for all eternity alongside Jerry)

I can't remember, but it had something to do with Dolores' ex Frank, and perhaps a WWHL appearance? The squashes were hilarious. When Ramona and Vicki were called up to squash a beef, they both had no clue they were "feuding." "I love her!" they both said of each other. LOL at Ramona's usual half-assed apologies.

I was just about to chime in, these weekly numbers show me that All My Children was not always a solid No. 3 during this time period as I had long thought.

Ooh look at Y&R at 9's, ATWT & DAYS in the 8's, and AW in the 6's... Meanwhile, Capitol down in the 4's definitely earns a cancellation for a CBS soap...

Wow, I'd be shi✝✝ing myself if I had attended BravoCon. That's my kind of camp. It's clear the audience loves Beverly Hills, love 'em or hate 'em. Ramona in the hot seat 3 teams to squash beefs was hilarious. Vicki as the beloved OG will be back as a full time 'wife for sure next season. I, too, was disappointed that Potomac was treated as an afterthought (alongside Dallas). Andy looked to be orgasming in his pants when Fredrick or whatever his name is (the million dollar former porn star guy) slipped him the tongue. Cue Gizelle's horrified reaction. And of course, loved the love for Queen LVP! BravoCon is good display of what's a REAL feud versus TV fodder. With no Nene, LVP cutting out before the BH cast arrived, and Caroline cutting out before NJ cast arrived, one wonders what they're cooking up for their next/current seasons...? LOL to Kenya and Zolciak having no interest in trying to squash their beef. I bet if Bethenny had attended, the audience would've lost their shi✝ upon her arrival, too. While I'm skeptical on which OC housewives are currently cool with one another, but on the other hand you have NYC always having a fun time together. ATL: Yeah, Mark Daly is a turd. Also, an interesting dynamic that you have them using footage of the Bravo float at World Pride for Atlanta, with so many other city wives in attendance next to them (Margaret, Melissa, Sonja, Tinsley, Kelly Dodd, etc.)

It was sad seeing Porsha break down with her sister, and talk about how she looks to her sister as an example of someone who left their significant other and came through. That was the most real conversation I've seen on Atlanta in a long time.

+1 @VanessaReardon Trust & believe, you've got peeps reading what you're posting, and appreciate you for doing so

@DaytimeFan @Cat and as you know @Antoyne LuAnn sure puts on a fun show! I was in hysterics all night. So much giggling; genuine fun or just sheer absurdity. Firstly, the venue seated 1,700 and I'd say it was close to 2/3rds full. It was mostly women in their 30's and 40's with a few gay men. One of Luann's "friends" in her act is a drag king comedienne who was getting a feel of the audience and asked, "who here is a Republican?" and thankfully only a small handful cheered [Wisconsin may have flipped back to red, but the Madison area is a very blue county]. LuAnn was about a half-hour late. "Who is she?" "Evidently Madonna." LOL I kid, only because we saw Madonna two weeks ago and she was nearly an hour late. Luann came out singing "With A Little Help From My Friends." She sang a bunch of songs as well as her 4 greatest hits.... okay, her ONLY 4 songs She did a Q&A with the audience and of course my gay ass shot up first and got the attention of the man with the mic and I asked if there's any chance Jill Zarin will ever return as a full-time Housewife, not just a friend. She said Jill has done some filming again this season so we'll see her (no full-time though). She had four different dresses throughout the evening. Her second one was by Jovani and she asked, "Do you like this dress?" in the exact same coy way as we saw on the show when Dorinda heckled her. The whole environment was very lax, casual, and fun. When she did her last song (Money Can't Buy You Class), we went up to the stage to jam out to it and shake her hand. As the audience was clearing out, a guy working the event spotted my hubby with his fabulous outfit and overall effervescent personality and said we could stay behind for a meet & greet (I don't know if the others who stayed behind had to pay beforehand for this, but we didn't!) And so we got a photo op with the Countess herself. She's a tall lady! She's a ham. I love that she's a ham and knows it. I asked her why she never liked Alex & Simon, and she said, "Did you??" and said they always came off as trying too hard. True dat! And she also told me her and Ramona just got into something again while filming right now. She had just flown in from the Berkshires filming at Dorinda's. We got photos individually and then a group shot. Now y'all can see what I look like! Don't recoil in horror too hard (That's me, hubby, and our girlfriend)

Spoiler alert 😂 I’m currently waiting for Countess LuAnn to make her appearance on stage...