Gray Bunny

I'm guessing last night's New Jersey episode won't be receiving any spectacular ratings. Pretty uneventful. And the first half of the episode focused on the newbies. They're focusing too much on the twins' families. I feel like we know Nicole more than Ter-eh-suh but perhaps I just got them confused in the first episode. Dina was barely on, Melissa was dumb, Amber painted herself in prostitute makeup for the bakery shop, and Teresa's family was still worrying about tomorrow. It's funny that Rosie's girlfriend is named Ellen. The two biggest lesbian talk show hosts happily together.

I love the season 2 reunion. According to the intro, that is the first time a Housewives reunion was in two parts. Watching that reunion, I'm actually surprised Kelly was brought back for another season, considering none of the other girls were feeling her (but I'm glad they did, if only for Scary Island!). And you're right in that Ramona is a hypocrite re: LuAnn's marital problems in the second season. I'm wondering if she's gonna let it all hang out next season. It looks like she's tired of playing it up like things were perfect and is ready to let the world know that Mario was a lying scumball. I just hope she doesn't venture into Sonja territory in terms of being a sloppy man-chaser. OC: They cracked 2 million this past week. Eric, is this the first time they hit over 2 million this season?

Damn, look at that trio. NeNe's been iced out and rightfully so. Season 7 shall be interesting indeed. Chris, I didn't look at the Kelly/Bethenny feud as one that Bethenny started. Granted, the details are cloudy, but the reason why Bethenny was guarded towards Kelly was valid and real. It wasn't a "this is a new cast member" set up, it was more like they had a real, authentic history. And Kelly was fake and phony long before the cameras rolled, only focusing on the pretty men in the room and totally dismissing the ladies (Bethenny wasn't the only one to make that observation). And I'm sorry, but if someone wants to call me Madonna, I'd be flattered. Yes, I am Madonna. I have power, immense wealth, and I don't put my name on everything that comes my way. NYC Present Day: that was a fun finale of the reunion. It's so funny watching Ramona try to have a nice, compassionate moment with the ladies. 'A' for effort, Miss Singer Sonja continued her delusions. Ramonja are such besties it's cute. They finally acknowledged LuAnn's "different role" this season. Carole & Heather reminded me of why I like them, and kinda hope they both return next season. Aviva continued being a joke, and they all knew she pre-planned the leg toss incident. If they wanna do seven gals, I say do: Ramona, LuAnn, Carole, Heather, Sonja, and the return of Jill and Bethenny as a regular friend. If they wanna drop Sonja, that's fine cuz Ramona's ally can be Bethenny. Throw in a new gal or bring back Alex. I'd love to see the original gals battle it out, with the second era (Heather, Carole) to even things out. To this day, we know there's tension between Bethenny vs Jill, Jill vs Ramona, Jill vs Alex (as far as we know), Alex vs LuAnn (as far as we know).

Tamra bailed from the table way too quickly. What a wuss. Take your tongue-lashing like a woman. I loved those looks Tamra and Vicki were giving each other. Even before Tamra asked if something was wrong, she knew she was about to get it. That whole "this is why nobody likes you" line that Tamra said to Danielle makes me kinda wish we could see what was cut.

Who's worse (or should I say better) at throwing the brick and hiding the hand? (i.e. stirring ish up and then acting innocent) or (P.S. I included that photo with a Danielle inset for a reason...)

Agreed. Although it bugs me that now when someone speaks ill will about Teresa/Joe, Melissa acts like she takes personal offence because "they're family." Bitch, please. So, isn't Jersey finished filming? One of the reports said they'd be filming the sentencing of Joe/Teresa in late September and Jacqueline will be appearing. Would that be tagged on to the end of THIS season?

You can just bet they're dangling a carrot to get Bethenny to come back. So now all the stuff she discussed on her talk show-- the mandated girls trips, the need to create drama for the sake of story, etc-- she'll have to do all over again. Weird. Seriously though, they've had all the originals (Jill, Kelly) come back to be on WWHL except Alex. What does Bravo have against her?

I'm sure she tried to make it work. The drama originally unfolded well before the season even premiered on TV. Agreed, MrPrezident. He's only got a couple good years left.

OMFG!!!!!!!!! That advice she gives about women needing to make sure they make a living for themselves rings so true now. I bet she didn't want to end up miserable like her mother. At least Ramona is rich, smart, and independently wealthy. She'll do fine. And I'm sure one day she'll spill the details, especially since she's not the one at fault. Mario. That sexy sh*thead. ;-)

Oh my Lord. I'm not gonna read all that. I don't even like her much. What's the Cliff's Notes version?

Totally agree. It makes NO sense that "Lizzie's friend" was invited to go on the trip. Especially when it was set up that Tamra and Heather were the ones that planned it. I have to roll my eyes at Danielle's petty concern over Vicki calling her dumb. No story. NYC: Andy could've let up on Ramona. She wasn't going to elaborate. She gave her canned answer repeatedly and he kept pressing and getting uglier about it. He should've let up earlier. Ramona is wrong about Heather's hubby. He's quite cute. He's just a shorty compared to his wife. Maybe he simply needs to walk into the room before her so she doesn't overshadow him (season 5 reference) LuAnn is really letting her balls swing and I love it! Get yer apple back, girl! Once again, LuAnn was accidentally back in the apple lineup after the preview for next week's eppy. This whole season has been sloppy, with that and then the disappearing/reappearing Aviva.

Arrrrrrrgh! Lizzie would've been flawless if only she had remembered that she DID text back 'n forth with Tamra on her birthday night. She clearly had too much to drink and forgets some things. Including that epic clip they flashed back to of her saying her hubby only gets an erection once a week! WTF? OC has done a lot of those "flashback" sequences of lil snippets that never aired in the first place, but they use to fill in all the pieces of a conversation. I'm on the fence on if I like it. I think when used sparingly, it works. And it saves the trouble of showing a long drawn out pointless scene where there's only one tiny interesting part to it. These "flashbacks" cut to the chase. But other times, like on tonight's episode, they did that so much it was a tad disorienting to me. Like, I wasn't sure if it was new material we hadn't seen or a true flashback. Vicki had me laughing my ass off! She's such a nut. NYC: rewatched the reunion, and they made an editing booboo at the very end. After the previews for next week's eppy when they go back to the lineup of the six ladies holding their apples, they used Season 5's with LuAnn in the lineup instead of Kristen. Whoops!

It's an interesting comparison watching season one with the show nowadays (along with most other Housewives) where in season one it was ALL about their families. You got to know Jill's daughter, Luann's kids and housekeeper Rosie, Ramona's daughter (LOVED her constant embarrassment of her mother) etc. Nowadays you couldn't even identify who's kids are whose.

1st season on NYC is SO different from the rest. The biggest tiff is a friendly competitive tennis match between Ramona and Jill. Oh and that brief thing with Ramona vs Alex/Simon. Is the reunion on hulu? I have yet to see that, back when it wasn't a big event.

I would think they would keep at least one or the other (Vicki more importantly). Those 2 are the main faces (there's a plastic surgery joke begging to be cracked) of the show. To lose both in one year would hurt the OC brand. Plus, the OC doesn't have a football team of supporting players waiting in the wings, like Atlanta or Beverly Hills.

LuAnn vs. Sonja is what could save both from being cut next season. I'm pretty much over Sonja and her delusions. And I just LOVE LuAnn calling her out on her business ventures that never turn into anything. Sonja needs a wake-up call, and I also like how LuAnn called her out on being a fake friend, losing touch during the break between seasons, then suddenly trying to be all chummy once they started filming again. LuAnn legitimately wanted to keep in touch, and Sonja totally brushed her off. LuAnn/Andy vs. Ramona next week looks sooooo good. I loved that shade Ramona gave about LuAnn being jealous because she's not on the show, because LuAnn actually was one of the MVP's this season without a dusty ol' apple. Aviva is the new Alex; everything she says is irrelevant and nobody really cares what she has to say.

Ooh snap, I bet they will. LuAnn has every right to go after Ramona, because she has commented on LuAnn's infidelity as well as being a "weekend mom." All the more reason why LuAnn needs to return and hold an apple next season. No matter what they decide for next year, they should hold on to their two originals.

Wow, it seems like they just started! That's when you know it's a good season. I would think we'd have a couple months left of episodes before the reunion.

Thanks. I'm really hoping there's more to the story here. If she's just marketing herself and using the NYC name for recognition, that's one thing. But if Bravo is filming, whether it be for one of their other shows or some official event, I'm hoping they're gearing up for a return. I'm totally eating my words, but I want that troublemaker back.

OC: I love how Lizzie looks at all this as an observant outsider, but you know she's eventually going to speak her mind and point out what nobody else voices or are too foolish not to see. I look forward to that bombshell. Heather keeps trying to downplay the fact that she was a chatty-Kathy gossip, talking about Shannon's marriage to a bunch of people who are not involved. Not cool. Someone needs to stress that part to her and point out how tactless and wrong that was. But she's good with arguments, while Shannon is not. BH: Wow, I'll be really surprised if Eileen Davidson actually joined as a regular friend or an actual Housewife! I would think she would just pop up once or twice at one of Rinna's parties or whatnot. By the time this airs, Eileen will be back at Y&R full time. This would benefit CBS's Y&R, not NBC's DAYS (which is under the same umbrella as Bravo).

Ooh, Kim's moving to Sundays? Yeah, that'll definitely help her, although it sounds like she was doing okay on her own. I'm just glad it's only a half-hour show. An hour would kill it. Eric, as a fellow ratings junkie, I appreciate your postings It saves me the trouble of going over to TVByTheNumbers.com. A 1.5 for NYC? Sigh, I'll take it, considering they had those lows around 1 million. I haven't been following too closely on other sites, so is it usual for Jill Zarin to still be a representative of the New York Housewives? Or do you guys think something's in the works and Bravo is working on getting some of the original ladies back?

He's still finishing up his run. Nothing is gonna prevent him from putting in his 7 mile run, nothing I tell ya!

What a crazy wackadoodledoo finale! That was the most bizarre party I have ever seen on one of these shows! Firstly, props to LuAnn for pointing out all the so-called pink elephants in the room (which was the majority of Sonja's guests). That was certainly an eclectic group of people who you wouldn't expect to see party together. The Sonja/harry/LuAnn stuff was good but I'm not surprised about the rumors regarding the Sonja/Harry stuff being faked for the cameras. It didn't seem genuine. Despite this crazy ass party, I almost wish they had done their usual fancy editing and made last week's party (Carole's birthday) the finale because they were all at a better place. It just seemed like your usual Housewives wrapup function. Agreed. The reactions to Aviva's leg tossing are what made the scene! LuAnn crying from laughter, Ramona yelling "oh shyt!" and trying to dart from the table, Carole totally done with her loony tunes antics, Heather getting Aviva riled up. I also thought the gaggle of misfits watching the crazy unfold and their laughter made it equally hilarious. It was just a weird over-the-top event that definitely bordered on parody, as someone else mentioned. If Heather, Ramona, and Luann's appearance on WWHL are any indication, the reunion is going to be FUN! I love how Ramona and LuAnn always rip on each other, but at the end of the day they like each other. They're the OG's of NYC and they gotta hold down this fort! P.S. Their lil write-ups at the very end were novels! And they disappeared way too quickly from screen, you had to freeze it just to get a chance to read it all.

Miami is Passions and NYC was in the middle of the pack but now at GL level. Please do not have a girls trip to Peapack next year! I'm surprised the NYC reunion is 3 parts but it sure looks hilarious! LuAnn on the couch where she should be, Ramona pissed about her relationship with Mario, Luann's karma line, Aviva's holla line... This all looks like a wonderful hot mess and I'm guessing they were encouraged to go balls to the wall to have this season go out on top (in the Nielsens).

1.6 ouch! They're now in the same league as OC and BH. I can only say that maybe it's because it's the summer, but really, it's just an excuse. I'm not surprised in the drop but didn't think it'd drop that low that fast.