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My impression is that Eve dispatched with Charlie in spring '83, as she took over every aspect of Victor's life and wanted no interference. And then there was a gap of about a year, until after the V&N wedding, that Miguel was introduced as Charlie's replacement.

These scenes are in the vault under fall ‘83 clips. This “story” feels very random and just something the writers came up with to kill time for Victor before other plots heated up. How could the head of Newman Enterprises have the time to go work at a diner? So silly. Marian is definitely not someone Victor has romantic feelings for. Overall it feels like a PSA story about how difficult it can be for people earning minimum wage. Douglas last appeared Oct ‘95… I think 10/16/95. He never had a job. I think he was implied he came from family money. He would talk about his days during “the war” but people doubted he ever saw combat 😂 Lynn disappeared end of ‘04/early ‘05…? Laura Bryan Birn’s departure seemed to coincide with the departure of her dad, YR staffer Jerry Birn. John S courted Nina and maybe kissed her, but she was always hesitant and intimidated by him, and officially dumped him once Ryan caught her eye.

What was the airdate? That could have been during the writers strike

Possibly but it was almost a full 5 years from Veronica’s debut to when John first looked at Mamie in a romantic light.

Great question. I think the soap mags at the time only said that the show is taking the character "in a different direction". The last episode for Marguerite Ray (Mamie #1) was the debut episode for Drucilla and Victoria Rowell, and then the show switched to Veronica Redd. Who was the better Mamie? All things considered, my vote is for Marguerite Ray. I think she was better as the Abbott housekeeper and surrogate mother to Jack, Ashley and Traci. Veronica Redd's Mamie never was quite a fit for me, in that regard. But on the flip side, I think Veronica was better at portraying Mamie as a strict demanding mother-figure to Dru.

Bond Gideon's husband is a member of the Facebook YR Classic page. IIRC he posted that Bond's talent agent asked the show for too much money, and the show countered by replacing her with Deborah Adair.

4/19/82 is in the vault. There’s a flashback to the spring ’81 hook-up of Jack and Jill, so you can get a little glimpse. I think that flashback has a newly-created insert of Jerry Douglas’ John discovering Jack and Jill hooking up. Where in the original scene, I assume it was Brett Halsey’s John discovering them, and that’s when Brett H was let go. When John returned to town, Jill definitely had some atoning to do for sleeping with Jack, as she reconnected with John.

I agree there could have been more flashbacks upon Sheila's BnB debut. Also, the scenes that aired on YR, I think on 5/20/92, of Sheila at the diner recovering after escaping the farmhouse fire - perhaps these scenes should have just aired on BnB instead, to show the viewers more where Sheila was coming from. Besides that, though, I think the show did an incredible job of incorporating Sheila in the Forrester world. I do think CBS aired promos during both YR and BB to add more color... there's a summer '92 BnB Promo where Sheila is "The Hand that Rocks the Cradle", obsessed with Eric Jr.

September and fall of '86 was a major "Sophie's Choice" for 14-year-old me, who had no VCR... The previous tv season - I had no issues watching Colbys Season 1, Thursdays at 9, and then Knots Landing Season 8, right after that at 10. But then the scheduling idiots at CBS moved KL Season 9 to Thursdays at 9, in direct competition with Colbys season 2! 😫 I had to prioritize my beloved KL, and I would literally just change the channel during commercials to catch brief glimpses of the Colbys 🤣 IIRC KL's ratings took a big hit, and the show was moved back to 10. But by then Colbys was nearing cancellation...

I 100% agree that making Jill the daughter of Katherine was an awful idea. But - is there anyone besides me who enjoyed the story itself? 🤣 I thought it had lots of great beats: - The return of the Fosters, especially beloved Liz - The incredible character of Charlotte, alcoholic fake Jill birth-mother, played indelibly by Elizabeth Harrower soon before her passing. Every line she spoke was just gold. - Katherine’s stroke, which led to some great tense scenes as she knew Billy and Mac were cousins but couldn’t communicate it - On that note, finally an interesting story for the beige and boring Billy and Mac recasts. I was just starting to warm up to them, when in the course of a week in June ‘03, they went from getting married, to breaking up and leaving town separately. All that said, I’m quite happy the Jill/Katherine blood-relation was later retconned. I can’t keep track - is Jill still considered a Fenmore or was that also (hopefully) retconned?

I agree with the majority of your picks, but I’m curious - why 2003?

"Derek and Jill suggested that Liz give herself a more youthful look by dyeing her hair. They gave her a wig to acquaint herself with the new image, but she felt ridiculous." Ok this sounds amazing

I’m up to 1381 – the therapy sessions with Sheila and Jay Garvin are just exquisite. She only gives him half of the Lauren Fenmore story and then is so desperate that she takes his flawed advice. It’s funny how a huge summer ’92 plot point was Sheila plotting to take over from Judy as l’il Eric’s nanny, but once Brooke and l’il Eric get off the plane from Paris, there’s no mention of daycare for the baby. Peter Brown is still in the contract credits but hasn’t made one appearance in at least a couple months… he must have been a FOBB (friend of Bill Bell

Love all these details! Do you recall if Greg was played by Wings H or had Howard M taken over by this point?

^ Not "calm" exactly... YR dropped from the top of the ratings in '80 to the middle of the pack, and didn't climb back up til '83, so I'm sure the CBS execs weren't thrilled. One other issue post-1 hour transition was John McCook... IIRC he left in Feb '80, but called it a hiatus and left Bill Bell hanging as to whether he would return. He wound up only coming back for a ep or two in May '80 and that was it. That's why BB had to pivot to find Lorie a new love interest, and brought on Nick Benedict, but that didn't wind up clicking either.

I appreciate Macy more when she is in work and family mode... as the Clarke story approaches its climax, she is a steady support for Sally both at Spectra and on the homefront.

Are you guys into the Zach/Felicia/Jack mafia/poker story in this latest batch of '92 eps? It's hasn't really caught my attention so I'm FFing those scenes, plus I know that Z&F will be written off by '93..

Maeve Quinlan plays "Airline Representative" in 1360

The writers did such a masterful job, incorporating Sheila into the Forrester world... 1356 - first mention of Lauren Fenmore. Ridge fills Eric in on how Lauren's baby died and how it was later found out that the babies were switched. (conveniently, Ridge couldn't recall the details of who was the perpetrator Eric says, "what kind of person could switch a baby??" The camera then pans to Sheila, who is at the hospital "taking good care" of Brooke 😈 < chef's kiss > perfection!

Weren't there some recent '75 recaps covering Lorie and Phillip spending time together... so maybe Lorie visited the mansion?

Never been a fan of Michael or CLB’s acting mannerisms, but this is a good 30th anniversary retrospective interview https://www.tvinsider.com/1023582/christian-leblanc-young-and-the-restless-michael-baldwin-anniversary/

I just noticed an anonymous angel added 5/30/13! Thanks a million! So this is actually just 1 scene, not multiple scenes. This is a scene that could never be achieved on the Y&R of 2021. It's just beautifully written and acted. Nothing earth-shaking - just a tender moment between two people with a lot of history. I could feel the real-life affection that TEB and BM have for each other.

Hi, does anyone have May 30, 2013 that they can upload to the Vault? I would just love to see these fabulous scenes again ❤️ "Traci arrived outside Phyllis' penthouse, and she ran into Lauren. Lauren said that she'd been thinking about how she'd bullied Traci in their younger days. Traci called it ancient history, but Lauren pointed out that they'd never cleared it up. Lauren confessed that she'd treated Traci horribly, but she had seen the other side of bullying, and she didn't know if the hurt ever went away. Traci initially said that she had no residual side effects, but then she recalled that she'd recently been at a restaurant, thinking about ordering dessert, and out of nowhere, Lauren's cruel words had flooded into her head. Lauren hated the things she'd said, but Traci asserted that she was no longer the insecure girl who'd turned to pills, and she'd moved on. Lauren mused that she'd never forgotten, and Traci agreed, but she was glad the subject of bullying was getting attention. Lauren apologized, but she knew that it couldn't make up for the pain she'd caused. Traci said that they couldn't change the past, but it was never too late to become a better person. The women hugged, and Lauren received a text message from Fen, asking her to meet him at Crimson Lights.

I was thinking about “head writer eras”, and then thinking about 1982-1989, and how I don’t really see that time period associated with a certain head writer. That’s kinda crazy, because that’s the era when Days exploded in popularity and was instrumental in creating the “supercouple” trend. Bo and Hope, Shane and Kim, Roman/John and Marlena, Steve and Kayla, Jennifer and Jack at the tail end… the show was on fire! The writing, production values, and star charisma were all on point. But we don’t seem to look at this time in any way similar to a “JER era”. I referenced the head writer list from Jason47’s site and I think I see why. It was a rotating series of head writers and mostly CO-head writers. Margaret DePriest & Sheri Anderson.......4/19/82-9/21/84............ Margaret DePriest, Sheri Anderson & Thom Racina..9/24/84-10/25/84......... Sheri Anderson & Thom Racina...............10/26/84-11/30/84........ Sheri Anderson, Thom Racina & Leah Laiman......12/3/84-11/10/86.......... Thom Racina & Leah Laiman..................11/11/86-11/18/86........ Leah Laiman.........................................11/19/86-3/14/89.......... Despite the shift in writers, to me – it’s amazing how the show kept a throughline of maintaining the same “feel” during all those years. Thoughts?

I feel like Ronn Moss was heavily inspired by Wayne Northrop’s Roman famously only referring to Marlena as “Doc” back in the 80s