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I shouldn't assume, but maybe Bill & Doug in jail, or Tommy Horton and one of his Army buddies? Not a long-term thing, but just a situation that happened.

From a 1987 Diva von Dish commentary about parties for SOD: "Oakdale's specialty is the birthday party. The younger set celebrates theirs every year and for some strange reason, the whole town is invited. While the entire cast is deft at establishing the party mood, I'm not sure that if I were Lily Walsh or Dusty Donovan I would want everyone in town who was over thirty at my birthday party*. Of course, Lily and Dusty don't have friends their own age. And I suspect budget cuts at Procter and Gamble prohibit anyone from calling Rent-a-Friend. So what do we do? To simulate genuine party activity, like dancing, I suggest renting clips, old or new, from the archives of Dick Clark's American Bandstand. Somehow I can't imagine Dusty Donovan rocking out; he'd be afraid of offending the Moral Majority. Holden is too uptight to let his backbone slip. Casey Peretti can definitely cut a rug and I'm sure John and Lucinda can show Bob and Kim a thing or two when it comes to modern dance techniques**, but we need more." *I'm pretty sure she lived for that. **Please, if anyone in that town was into dirty dancing, it was Lisa.

I think kitchen sink drama appeals to audiences, but the idea of saying it's "like a soap opera" carries too much stigma and stereotyping right now.

The Education of Max Bickford did make it to 22 episodes. I guess since it was on Sundays at 8, they were willing to wait before lowering the ax. What crashed and burned in the fall of 2001 was Danny, starring Daniel Stern. Two episodes (at 8:30 Friday, after Ellen's short-lived comeback sitcom) and out.

Judy Garland, The Judy Garland Show Julie Andrews, The Julie Andrews Hour and Julie Faye Dunaway, It Had to Be You

Talking about Dawn on the roles that didn't survive recasts thread got me thinking about Monty 2.0. I'd always heard about a wave of characters/actors leaving the show and a new wave arriving, and thanks to curlyqgrl's summaries, I think I have the the final tally. It was really more like three waves. Monty's first day back, according to Wikipedia, was Wednesday, Feb. 13, 1991. Her last day was Friday, Jan. 24, 1992. First Wave: Out: Katherine Delafield (Edie Lehman, 11/26/90) Shep Casey (Bradley Lockerman, 12/21/90) Rita Lloyd (Kim Terry, 1/10/91) Lucy Coe (temporarily, for Lynn Herring's maternity leave, 1/29/91) Broxton (actor name?, 2/1/91 it appears) Simone Hardy (Stephanie Williams, 2/12/91) Carla Greco (Laura Harring, 2/14/91?) Frankie Greco (Robert Fontaine Jr., no clue on date, but presumably around this time) Cheryl Stansbury (Jennifer Anglin, 2/14/91?) Colton Shore (Scott Thompson Baker, 2/26/91) Charlene Simpson (Maree Cheatham, 2/26/91) Dawn Winthrop (Jennifer Guthrie, 2/27/91) Eric Jackson/"Edge Jerome" (Mark St. James, no date given, but presumably late February-early March) Nurse Jessie Brewer (Emily McLaughlin, 3/1/91; not a writing decision, but notable) Decker Moss (Michael Watson, no date given, but presumably early March) Larry Ashton (Hugo Napier, 3/22/91; back for a few days in July) In/Back: Jenny Eckert (Cheryl Richardson, 2/13/91) Mac Scorpio (John J. York, 2/18/91) Bill Eckert (Tony Geary, 2/19/91) Fred Eckert (William Boyett, 2/20/91) Angela Eckert (Carol Lawrence, 2/20/91) Sly Eckert (Glenn Walker Harris Jr., 2/20/91) Finian O'Toole (Arte Johnson, 2/22/91?) Harlan Barrett (Michael Cole, 3/7/91) Lucy Coe (Lynn Herring, 3/12/91) Paul Hornsby (Paul Satterfield, 3/18/91) Second Wave Out: Fred Eckert (William Boyett, 5/31/91) Angela Eckert (Carol Lawrence, 6/5/91; back for Jenny and Ned's wedding in February 1992) Frisco Jones (Jack Wagner, 6/11/91) Ned Ashton (Kurt McKinney, 8/30/91) In/Back Nancy Eckert (Linda Dona, 5/28/91) Dominique Taub (Tawny Fere Ellis, 6/4/91) Leopold Taub (Chip Lucia, 6/6/91) Connor Olivera (Michael Lynch, 6/24/91) Simone Hardy (Stephanie Williams, 6/25/91) Cesar Faison (Anders Hove, 6/26/91) A.J. Quartermaine (Gerald Hopkins, 6/26/91) Nurse Sheila something-or-other (actress name?, 6/26/91 it appears) Julia Barrett (Crystal Carson, 6/27/91) Susan Hornsby (Irina Cashen, 8/21/91) Third Wave: Out: Nancy Eckert (Linda Dona, 10/14/91 -- whodunnit storyline for another month) Felicia Jones (Kristina Wagner, 11/5/91; back in May 1992) Dominique Taub (Tawny Fere Ellis, 11/14/91) Finian O'Toole (Arte Johnson, 11/21/91?) Harlan Barrett (Michael Cole, 11/22/91) Leopold Taub (Chip Lucia, 12/5/91) Cesar Faison (Anders Hove, 12/5/91) Anna Devane (Finola Hughes, 12/17/91) Susan Hornsby (Irina Cashen, 12/27/91) Anna Devane (Camilla Moore, 1/20/92) Cesar Faison (Anders Hove, 2/25/92) Robert Scorpio (Tristan Rogers, 2/25/92) David Langton (Jeff Pomerantz, 3/23/92) Lucy Coe (Lynn Herring, 3/27/92) In/Back: Ned Ashton (Wally Kurth, 9/9/91) Dr. Eric Simpson (Brandon Hooper, 9/18/91) Edward Quartermaine (David Lewis, 11/26/91) Dominique Taub (Shell Davidson, 12/3/91) Jason Quartermaine (Steve Burton, 12/19/91) Anna Devane (Camilla Moore, 12/20/91) David Langton (Jeff Pomerantz, 1/13/92) Holly Sutton (Emma Samms, 1/16/92) Cesar Faison (Anders Hove, 1/17/92) Nikki Langton (Camille Cooper, 1/30/92)

Victor certainly went into a new direction posthumously.

Ooh, do Augusta Dabney next!

I think Leslie Woods wins this category, having worked in soaps from the radio era all the way up to 2001. She also appeared in three out of the big four nighttime soaps (no Dynasty) and her penultimate role was (fittingly) in Nurse Betty. Maybe he could appear in the final episodes of both, like he did on OLTL.

I suspect not. What I wonder about, though, is what was going through Gloria Monty's head during this time. According to Waggett's Soap Opera Encyclopedia, she was fond of having a successor right on the heels of the departed. By the time Luke was gone for good, Robert was the leading man. With Robert and Holly gone, was she pushing for Frisco and Felicia as the marquee couple, or was it always in the cards to bring Robert back? I know Anna was intended for Dr. Buzz before clicking with Duke.

If I'm not mistaken, The Chateau was introduced in 1970 as Nick Davis' place. I want to say it was gone for good after the gas pipe explosion in 1987 (?). Nevertheless, the Chateau lived on into the '90s in at least one corner of fandom -- it was the "location" of the "How to Host a Murder" party game. Now, when did The Goalpost disappear? Just prior to the Chicken Shack showing up?

Vetsoapfan, could you shed some more light for me about what made Sharon unique? I'm imagining her as not too far off from Amy Vining, but I have the feeling that's not doing Sharon justice. I did love Amy, BTW.

Julia turned 24 in June 1975.

If nothing else, I hope Susan and Roya at least met. Maybe Susan could have jokingly told her the Rosemary Prinz, "Don't get stuck here," story. Were AMC and Loving at the same studios?

And, of course, Miss Inch in The Parent Trap. "Let the punishment fit the crime ... the punishment fit the crime."

Queen of the Night always make me think of Whitney Houston's outfit from The Bodyguard. Slightly fitting, considering how Roman and Marlena met. Anyway, I doubt they'll go this route, but it'd be interesting to find out the people of the night were a bit cult-ish and they haven't forgotten their queen.

Wait, Bubba from Mama's Family?

Carl, I'm curious -- is it the execution (i.e. performances) of that certain episode? If so, I'd agree.

*Bryant Gumbel waits by the phone* As far as I know, the skeletons in his closet were ego, not libido, driven.

The two brothers idea is interesting. I wonder how it would have played in Dallas' heyday, before the self-parodying last few seasons. I'm really glad to know Seth ended up being memorable. It was a real buzzkill watching the episode and realizing he did nothing. Oh thank goodness, it *is* the Tate house. I thought my eyes were tricking me.

It seems to me ABC was throwing out the baby with the bathwater, especially since Going Places was a one season wonder. Plus, where else was Just the Ten of Us going to fit? After Growing Pains?

At one point, Just the Ten of Us' Wikipedia page heavily implied it was cancelled due to network politics. ABC wanted to have Miller-Boyett as sole producer of TGIF's programs. The discussion points exist, albeit toned down, for the page about Going Places. I'd love to see more of Good and Evil, Witt Thomas Harris' five-episode flop from 1991. In her autobiography, Teri Garr wrote it was pitched to her as a satire of what we'd now call the 1 percent. That satire kept getting watered down as production continued. Plus, Lane Davies and Susan Harris' dialogue is a match made in heaven. (fast-forward to 7:50)

The earliest instance I can find is 1994: Personally, I prefer earlier Q Thanksgivings, like 1989 (Alan chewing out Dawn, "my wife's bastard daughtah!") or 1981 (Monica and Scotty having some common ground, plus Emma Lutz being thankful for Luke and Laura).

Let alone K.J. Apa getting into that car accident after supposedly being overworked.

For you, SoapDope: Although Julie has the most to do, I actually think Jill Talley steals the sketch with her take on Jan Hooks as Carlene.