Everything posted by Franko
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The Preemption/Out of Pattern Thread
Much appreciated.
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The Preemption/Out of Pattern Thread
Yakima, Washington, June 1978 KIMA, the CBS station, aired the syndicated soap HIGH HOPES instead of afternoon news, slotting it between SEARCH and ATWT (and against the dying FOR RICHER, FOR POORER and the start of AMC). Non-soap-related: KNDO (NBC) aired The Mickey Mouse Club instead of Card Sharks. Boston/Providence/Hartford, November 1981 THE DOCTORS did not air on WBZ in Boston (which aired People Are Talking), but did air on WJAR in Providence and WVIT in New Britain. No EDGE in Boston (it had been dropped from ABC affiliate WCVB in 1976 and independent station WLVI in September 1978; WCVB had reruns of The Waltons after GH; WLVI had afternoon cartoons), New Haven (WTNH carried EDGE from August 1976-September 1979 and aired Merv Griffin in the afternoon) or Providence (WPRI dropped Edge by October 1979 and also aired Merv). GUIDING LIGHT aired at 9 a.m. on WLNE in New Bedford (which aired an afternoon movie after SEARCH). San Francisco and Sacramento, April 1982 (a prelude to the 1983 schedules earlier on this page) KCRA (Sacramento) was airing DAYS at 3 as early as April '82, with TEXAS as its lead-in. No DOCTORS, SEARCH or AW. On KRON (San Francisco), THE DOCTORS aired at 11. No SEARCH (Midday instead) or TEXAS (Ironside reruns, followed by Merv Griffin; by '83, Merv moved up an hour). The CBS and ABC affiliates' schedules are more or less the same/in pattern. Chicago, June 1983 WMAQ aired news at noon, meaning DAYS and AW aired a half-hour out of pattern (and AW directly competed with CAPITOL, plus the end of OLTL). WBBM aired Donahue at 9, with Pyramid, Child's Play and Tattletales airing in a block before Y&R at 11:30 and The Price Is Right airing after the soaps at 3 p.m. WLS aired EDGE at 9:30 a.m., after A.M Chicago. EDGE was not airing on WTEN in Albany, New York, as of July 1984. The 10:30 a.m. slot, which it was at in August 1980 (according to the Edge Homepage), was filled by Mary Tyler Moore reruns.
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GH: Classic Thread
They not only chem tested her with Ned, they chem tested her with Ashton! And Colton, at least in the immediate aftermath of his triangle with Frisco & Felicia. I can see it now ... a ripped from the headlines story where Terry returns, seeking legal action against Bobbie for a conservatorship she was placed under during the Purity Water/O'Connor brothers mess.
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GH: Classic Thread
She was. Plus it was Vinton's nickname for Naomi on Mama's Family. Going back to Bobbie and the '80s brownstone crew, I'm wondering how long Robin Bernard's contract was for. Terry Brock had four years on the front burners (1984-87), then spent 1988 into early 1990 mostly just singing. I guess they figured they better get as much use out of the Duke's Place set as they can.
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The Preemption/Out of Pattern Thread
Some Midwest odds and ends: Minneapolis/St. Paul, January 1988: RYAN'S HOPE and LOVING aired from 11-12 a.m. CST on independent station KTMA. The ABC station, KTSP, aired Geraldo at 10 a.m., followed by HOME and the news before ALL MY CHILDREN. Detroit, October 1989: WJBK (then a CBS station) aired 3rd Degree rather than Family Feud at 10 a.m. (as the lead-in for the network Wheel of Fortune), but did air the syndicated Family Feud at 7 p.m. WDIV (NBC) aired Joan Rivers at 10 rather than Classic Concentration and Scrabble. Santa Barbara, which had previously aired in the morning on WDIV -- at least as of September 1985 -- was in pattern at 3 p.m.. WXYZ (ABC) aired HOME at 4:30 a.m. and Sally Jessy at 11 a.m. Chicago, December 1990: DAYS OF OUR LIVES aired at 11 a.m. on WMAQ, opposite Trump Card and THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS on WBBM and Match Game and LOVING on WLS. DOOL seems to have aired at 11 for at least a few years. Does anyone know exactly how long? And finally, Mason City, Ottumwa, the Quad Cities and Dubuque, Iowa, November 1989: Everything in pattern on the two CBS stations, KIMT (Mason City) and WHBF (Quad Cities). LOVING aired on KTVO (Ottumwa) and KDUB (Dubuque), but not WQAD (Quad Cities). No Classic Concentration and Scrabble on KWQC (Quad Cities), which aired Sally Jessy. One more: GENERAL HOSPITAL still wasn't airing in Dayton, Ohio as of July 1993. WDTN aired Maury Povich at 3 p.m. (and GH aired at 3 p.m. on WKRC in Cincinnati). Speaking of Cincinnati, WLWT aired ANOTHER WORLD at 1 p.m. and DAYS OF OUR LIVES at 2 p.m. while they aired in their normal timeslots on WKEF in Dayton. Both WHIO (Dayton) and WCPO (Cincinnati) aired the CBS soaps in pattern.
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GH: Classic Thread
And, of course, she had lapses through the years, like faking blindness to keep Noah by her side (a plot development that didn't last nearly as long as I expected), trying to keep Tony from finding out that Lucas was illegally adopted, the custody fight with Tiffany, affair with Damian, etc.
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The Politics Thread
"I asked her why she made the decision. She told me 'January 6th.' And left it at that." Those MFers were straight-up ready to kill Nancy. I don't blame her for not taking any [!@#$%^&*] with this.
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ALL: Imagine how HWs would have written other soaps…
Days of Our Lives, in between Pat Falken Smith's runs, seemed determined to emulate the ABC/Y&R relevance and youth appeal trends. With that in mind, I'd have loved to see the Dobsons' take on Days, given how well they were at modernizing (The) Guiding Light.
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Ratings from the 80's
Off the top of my head, I know RH brought back Delia (once again played by Ilene Kristen) and Joe (now played by Walt Wiley), AMC brought back Nina (once again played by Taylor Miller) and GH brought back Robert and Tiffany (still played by Tristan Rogers and Sharon Wyatt, even if he wouldn't fully return until the following year). Who did LOVING and OLTL bring back?
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GH: RIP Stuart Damon :(
Everyone has pretty much said what I'd want to say. GH, as I've often mentioned, was my late grandma's favorite. It does hurt to lose another piece of what made that show special for me. (It's eerie to remember/realize we're going to lose more and more daytime legends.) On a lighter note, Stuart has a great cameo in Star 80, in the scene when Eric Roberts is making an ass of himself at the Playboy Mansion. He bugs Stuart's character about career doldrums, then gives him a cheesy thumbs up for good luck. Once alone, Stuart flips him off.
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ALL: Proposed Soaps Over The Years
Definitely agree, considering how the soap landscape looked in 1984, when Y&R was unmistakably in its second wind. The Stewart and Bauer soaps might have had a better chance between 1980-82. Interesting! CBS wasn't likely to cancel Pyramid or TPIR, so that leaves the half-hours that Press Your Luck filled (the show itself was scheduled at 10:30 a.m.), the half-hour given back to the affiliates for news, or the 4 p.m. half hour (where Tattletales was). I could see that, yes. (It's smoother than the idea I outlined above.) In this scenario, one of CBS' newcomers is up against LOVING and Wheel of Fortune.
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DAYS: June 2021 Discussion Thread
That and the fact that he had brain surgery just before they got married (as we found out from @will81's uploads of Soap Opera Digest from 1991).
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The Preemption/Out of Pattern Thread
Salt Lake City, May 1992 KUTV (NBC) 9 a.m.: AW 10 a.m.: A Closer Look and One on One 11 a.m.: Sally Jessy 12 p.m.: News 1 p.m.: SB 2 p.m.: DOOL 3 p.m.: Maury 4 p.m.: Donahue KTVX (ABC) 9 a.m.: Regis & Kathie Lee 10 a.m.: Home 11 a.m.: AMC Noon: OLTL 1 p.m.: GH 2 p.m.: People's Court and Candid Camera 3 p.m.: Geraldo 4 p.m.: Montel KSL (CBS) 9 a.m.: TPIR 10 a.m.: Y&R 11 a.m.: ATWT 12 p.m.: News 1 p.m.: GL 2 p.m.: Oprah 3 p.m.: Love Boat reruns 4 p.m.: Perfect Strangers and Cosby Show reruns I'm always a little amazed at markets where one could watch six soap operas in a row. You always think that sort of thing went out when shows started expanding to an hour.
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The Preemption/Out of Pattern Thread
A few things out of the ordinary for St. Louis in February 1981. No EDGE on KTVI (It had been dropped a year and a half previously). The 3 p.m. CST slot went to Match Game, with Family Feud airing at 3:30 rather than 11 a.m. Mary Tyler Moore reruns were RH's lead-in. Over on KSDK, no DOCTORS (maybe it was dropped when it moved to the start of the soap lineup?). Midday ran at 11:30 a.m., followed by news, meaning DOOL, AW and TEXAS were all delayed a half hour, airing from 12:30-3:30 CST. The 3:30 slot went to "The World of People." CBS's full lineup aired on KMOX. However, One Day at a Time reruns aired at 11 a.m. as the lead-in to SFT, rather than after GL. John Davidson's talk show aired at 3 p.m. Oklahoma City, June 1982 KTVY 4 (NBC) -- no Diff'rent Strokes reruns, WOF or SFT 9 a.m.: Hour Magazine 10 a.m.: TEXAS 11 a.m.: DOCTORS and Dannysday Noon: News and DOOL 1 p.m.: DOOL and AW 2 p.m.: AW and CHiPs reruns 3 p.m.: CHiPs and Bewitched reruns KOCO 5 (ABC) -- no Family Feud 9 a.m.: Donahue 10 a.m.: The Love Boat reruns 11 a.m.: AMC (on a delay) 12 p.m.: News and RH 1 p.m.: OLTL 2 p.m.: GH 3 p.m.: EDGE and Here's Lucy reruns KWTV 9 (CBS) -- all of the network schedule 9 a.m.: One Day at a Time and Alice reruns 10 a.m.: TPIR 11 a.m.: Y&R 12 p.m.: News and ATWT 1 p.m.: ATWT and CAPITOL 2 p.m.: GL 3 p.m.: The Waltons reruns
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News & Gossip from the mid-1980s per The Soaps of Yesterday
Glad to see the thread's back! Hello-hello again, @will81! Maybe it's me, but I'm getting mighty sick of Jon-Michael Reed haranguing Santa Barbara for being a hot mess. I dunno, I just feel like he's writing with a "How dare they?!" attitude that's really off-putting. Then again, but most accounts, SB needed the reins to be pulled in, so ... The relentless pimping of Brad Maule continues. I'm so glad to know he didn't really have his head shaved. And welcome aboard, Fuenella! Mrs. Divine, indeed.
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The Politics Thread
Lord, she needs to retire already ...
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Days: May 2021 Discussion Thread
Since they all seem to be afflicted with Peter Pan Syndrome, how about "The Lost Boys & Girls"?
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The Preemption/Out of Pattern Thread
Fairbanks, Alaska, October 1983: KTTU, the NBC station in Anchorage, also aired ABC shows: 9 a.m.: AMC 10 a.m.: GH 11 a.m.: Sale of the Century and Wheel of Fortune 12 p.m.: LOV and SFT 1 p.m.: DAYS 2 p.m.: AW 3 p.m.: Dream House and Go! KTVF, then-CBS in Fairbanks: 9 a.m.: Richard Simmons and Pyramid 10 a.m.: Press Your Luck and Tattletales 11 a.m.: TPIR 12 p.m.: News & Y&R 1 p.m.: Y&R and ATWT 2 p.m.: ATWT and CAP 3 p.m.: GL (Another Life aired on the religious station at 3:30) It's crazy to think that as late as 1983, in this market, one could watch up to seven soaps in a day. And up to seven game network game shows.
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The Preemption/Out of Pattern Thread
Checking in on this area, July 1983: NBC (listings only for Sacramento (KCRA) and San Francisco (KRON)) 9 a.m.: still Finnerty & Company/reruns (now Diff'rent Strokes) and Sale of the Century 10 a.m.: still Wheel of Fortune on both, with Sacramento still airing Tic Tac Dough and SF airing the new network game, Dream House, at 10:30 11 a.m.: Dream House and Sale of the Century in Sacramento/Facts of Life reruns and news in SF 12 p.m.: still news in Sacramento/DAYS in SF 1 p.m.: Fantasy in Sacramento/AW in SF 2 p.m.: AW in Sacramento (there's a YouTube promo of AW joining or returning to KCRA)/Merv Griffin in SF 3 p.m.: still DAYS in Sacramento/Mary Tyler Moore and Entertainment Tonight in SF 4 p.m.: Donahue in Sacramento/TGI4 (local talk show) in SF CBS (listings for Sacramento, San Francisco, Chico and Eureka) 9 a.m.: Pyramid and Child's Play in all but KIEM in Eureka, which aired Donahue 10 a.m.: TPIR on all but KPIX in San Francisco (it aired on independent station KTZO; KPIX aired People Are Talking) 11 a.m.: Y&R on all but KIEM, which aired Jim Bakker 12 p.m.: News on all but KIEM, which aired Pyramid, followed by ATWT across the board 1 p.m.: ATWT conclusion, then CAPITOL, across the board 2 p.m.: GL across the board 3 p.m.: Y&R in Eureka, Hour Magazine in Sacramento & SF, Lie Detector and Little House reruns in Chico 4 p.m: Child's Play and Tattletales in Eureka, a shorter afternoon version of People are Talking and Tattletales in SF, California Afternoon in Sacramento and the conclusion of Little House and start on Bonanza in Chico ABC (listings for Sacramento/Stockton, San Francisco, Eureka and Redding) 9 a.m.: Good Morning California and RH/AM San Francisco/EDGE and All in the Family reruns/Donahue 10 a.m.: Too Close for Comfort reruns in all but Redding, which aired AM California, followed LOV across the board 11 a.m.: AMC in Sacramento, Family Feud and RH in SF, Eureka and Redding 12 p.m.: news in Sacramento, AMC in SF, Eureka and Redding 1 p.m.: OLTL across the board 2 p.m.: GH across the board 3 p.m.: The People's Court and All in the Family in Sacramento, EDGE and a movie in SF, Hour Magazine in Eureka and EDGE and DAYS in Redding 4 p.m.: Three's Company and The Jeffersons in Sacramento, the rest of SF's movie, The Waltons in Eureka and the DAYS conclusion and People's Court in Redding According to the EDGE Homepage, the show was dropped from KOVR in Sacramento in August 1980.
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The Preemption/Out of Pattern Thread
Atlanta, April 1988: ABC: 9:00 Geraldo 10:00 The Judge 10:30 Superior Court 11:00 Newlywed Game 11:30 Hollywood Squares 12:00 News 12:30 Ryan's Hope 1:00 All My Children 2:00 One Life to Live 3:00 General Hospital 4:00 Oprah Winfrey CBS: 9:00 Donahue 10:00 Sally Jessy Raphel 10:30 Divorce Court 11:00 The Price is Right 12:00 News 12:30 The Young and The Restless 1:30 The Bold and The Beautiful 2:00 As The World Turns 3:00 Guiding Light. 4/4:30 The Jeffersons NBC: 9:00 Jeopardy! 9:30 Win Lose or Draw 10:00 Will Shriner 11:00 Wheel of Fortune 11:30 Concentration 12:00 Noonday 1:00 Days of Our Lives 2:00 Another World 3:00 Santa Barbara 4:00 Knots Landing
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The Preemption/Out of Pattern Thread
I guess adding B&B sometime between late 1989-late 1991 inspired KGGM, the CBS in Albuquerque, to shake things up. Of note: all of the network programming is accounted for in '91, while the network version of Wheel of Fortune apparently didn't air (stopped airing?) in '89. 10 a.m.: From Y&R to ATWT 11 a.m.: From ATWT to Designing Women and Family Feud 12 p.m.: From news and FF to news and TPIR 1 p.m.: From TPIR to TPIR's second half and B&B 2 p.m.: GL, both times 3 p.m.: From FF's syndicated version and Love Connection to Y&R
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The Preemption/Out of Pattern Thread
New Mexico/West Texas/Durango, Colorado, October 1989: NBC (four stations -- Albuquerque, Roswell, El Paso and Farmington) 8 a.m. -- Today conclusion in all but El Paso (airing Scrabble and Golden Girls reruns) 9 a.m. -- Scrabble and Jackpot! (El Paso aired Donahue) 10 a.m. -- I Love Lucy reruns and GENERATIONS (El Paso aired Sally Jessy Raphael) 11 a.m. -- DOOL (all four) 12 p.m. -- AW (all four) 1 p.m. -- SB (all four) 2 p.m. -- GENERATIONS and Classic Concentration in El Paso, Highway to Heaven on the others 3 p.m. -- Divorce Court and People's Court on all but El Paso, Highway to Heaven in EP CBS (four stations -- El Paso, Durango, Roswell and Albuquerque) 8 a.m. -- Joan Rivers in El Paso, Sally Jessy on the others 9 a.m. -- TPIR in El Paso and Durango, Donahue in Roswell and Albuquerque 10 a.m. -- Family Feud and Y&R in El Paso; Y&R on the others 11 a.m. -- Y&R conclusion and B&B in El Paso; Golden Girls and Wheel of Fortune (network, I'm assuming) in Durango; ATWT in Roswell and Albuquerque 12 p.m. -- ATWT in El Paso; news and Family Feud on the others 1 p.m. -- GL in El Paso and Durango; TPIR in Roswell and Albuquerque 2 p.m. -- Three's Company and Win, Lose or Draw in El Paso, ATWT in Durango, GL in Roswell and Albuquerque 3 p.m. -- Geraldo in El Paso; B&B and People's Court in Durango, Family Feud (syndicated) and Love Connection in Roswell and Albuquerque ABC (five stations -- Carlsbad, Albuquerque, El Paso, Silver City and Clovis) 8 a.m. -- GMA conclusion in all but Clovis (airing Donahue) 9 a.m. -- Home in Carlsbad and El Paso, Joan Rivers in Albuquerque and Silver City, Regis & Kathie Lee in Clovis 10 a.m. -- Webster reruns and Loving in Carlsbad and El Paso, Regis & Kathie Lee in Albuquerque and Silver City, Sally Jessy in Clovis 11 a.m. -- AMC in all but Clovis, which aired news and 3rd Degree 12 p.m. -- OLTL (all five) 1 p.m. -- GH (all five) 2 p.m. -- Inside Edition and Jeopardy! in Carlsbad and El Paso, The Judge and Inside Edition in Albuquerque and Silver City, Geraldo in Clovis 3 p.m. -- Family Ties and Growing Pains in Carlsbad and El Paso, Oprah in Albuquerque and Silver City, Family Feud and Win, Lose or Draw in Clovis