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She peaked really fast in her career and burnt out, that was the point. And the reason why that happened was not because she was untalented (she has talent), but she wasted her moment in the sun with cheap gimmicks, a passive-agressive feud with a legend (Madonna), and progressively crap material (I'm sorry, BTW and AP were not great albums) that ended up flopping and damaging her commercial career. All that and she's not even 30 yet. Everything she does now feels like an engineered PR plan to rebuild her public image and recover from the fall she's had with the general public, and I don't particularly feel it's working.

There is no career upswing though, she hasn't had a hit single in what, 3 years? When you're doing duets and commercials with Tony Bennett and still in your late 20's, something isn't right. Her career ran out of steam in 2010 and she's been clinging on ever since. I'd be very surprised if her next albums sees more success than her last two. It seems like her team is trying to soften her image a bit with paid for PR, but it's too little, too late IMO.

3.38 Million sold in the first week in the US

No one is ever going to beat that record, it took over 15 years for Adele to smash the NSYNC record, and other than Adele currently, no one is selling close to that amount in their first week. And yes, you know Taylor Swift wishes....

We're going way off-topic, and apologies to OLTL fans who may be pissed at this. But I do think it's telling that Bell himself never re-hired Suckass-Moron-a after she left (and failed miserably) with the creation of Generations. In fact, by her own admission, it was SONY who rehired her in 2005 as a consultant, before LML fired her a year or so later. Also, she only spent about 4 years on Y&R in the mid-late 80s, there were "Bell proteges" who had been with the show much longer and through different incarnations of the show since her original stint with the show. Judging by her writing from Generations on, this woman isn't even qualified to write her own suicide note, so the constant praise I see from people like Jamey Giddens and Nelson Branco seems based off of one popular catlight clip from Generations and not much else. I remember her taking credit and gloating about the Sheila poisoning Lauren with a necklace story beat during her 2005 return....

Suckass-Moron-a is no catch herself, people. I always have to chime in whenever she's mentioned, her reputation is built purely upon Tweets from Jamey Giddens and not in the reality of her actual (lackluster/terrible) work or track record.

They were both very flawed and troubled people. At times, Holly could be very unsympathetic, yet I loved her and strangely wanted the best for her. Regardless of the terrible treatment P&G gave Zas, I do think it's fitting Roger and Holly never got a happy ending. They were not that kind of couple, and someone once said they were the true definition of an anti-supercouple, and I love that. I loved watching the two of them move in and out of each other's obit at different times, but I always knew that whatever peace they found with one another was always going to be tentative, even if they loved one another deeply despite everything. I could go on forever, but those of us who witnessed the greatness of these two characters are so lucky. I don't think GL/P&G ever quite expected that this duo would ever be as popular and vital to the show as they were.

^^^Each year my love for those two characters just grows deeper and deeper. I don't think I'll ever enjoy a duo or dynamic between two soap characters as much I did with those two. Roger and Holly just touched a part of my soul that very few things in the entertainment world touch. It also helped that they were both deeply fascinating characters away from one another and were played by two superb (not to mention underrated) actors. Not surprisingly, my favourite eras of this show tend to have Roger/Holly as a main focus point. I always knew when I watched them as a kid that I was watching something very rare and magnificent. I really didn't realize how lucky I was back then, and re-watching clips on YouTube just reaffirms it to me. There will never be a dynamic or two characters like this on soaps ever again. They were truly one of a kind.

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------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I didn't realize she had a quote about sticking to the same formula, here it is since it goes back to a prior discussion about her:

I don't think she was ever going to veer too far off from what made her successful. At the end of the day, she's a contemporary torch singer, so she'll always stick to conventional ballads in her signature delivery style. She's not a Madonna/Beyonce-type artist who has to evolve and change direction on every record.

It's on course to break Nsync's 2000 record for first week album sales in the US as well, as confirmed by Billboard today: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6770264/adele-25-nsync-no-strings-attached-nielsen-soundscan-billboard-charts

HBS was my favorite Margo and I never thought the character was the same after she left and never thought Dolan was great for the role. Speaking of 1989, wasn't this the year Robert Calhoun left as EP to become EP of GL or was that in 1988? When exactly did he leave and when did Laurence Caso join? Granted Marland was still there so the change in EP's wasn't glaring, but I know some who thought the show lost something when Calhoun left. Calhoun was a terrific EP, and never gets the credit he richly deserves.

It seemed like a lot of their ATWT was a prototype for what became Santa Barbara. Their Tom and Margo also seem like an early draft for what became Mason and Julia.

He'll probably be back in a year anyway, I don't see any big Hollywood career for him.

I think you may be referring to this: