DramatistDreamer

It's my understanding that the call was not leaked, it was released. Raffensperger, whose office recorded the call, instructed that the call not be released UNLESS there was some attack on any state officials, or a mischaracterization of what took place in the call. My understanding is that one or both of those thresholds were crossed, so the recording of the call was released. That's just my understanding of the situation.

He truly sounds convincing as someone who has lost what's left of his mind. Part of me wonders whether he thinks this might help him if/when those crimimal indictments happen, perhaps his lawyers can try to convince a judge to declare him mentally incompetent. In any case, he sounds wild and desperate, not resolute. He truly should've been removed from office after impeachment. Shame on the people who made it possible for him to remain.

I wonder whether an actual Latino actor would have thought the character bordered stereotypes too closely. I didn't have a problem with Boynton, although, on a few occasions, I did sometimes find myself unintentionally laughing at things in his performance that weren't meant to be funny. Most of the Montegan characters were played by Latinos (except for Finn), it might been more effective if Tonio had been portrayed by a Latino actor.

It's right where his "Law and Order" title is, in the dumpster.

Thanks @Soapsuds but I am much better now. I feel for his loved ones more than anyone else.

The national murder rate is now the highest it has been in 20 years. Slavic Village and Cleveland's East Side is but one example of the degradation and deterioration of the social contract that is taking place in America. Indifference by the public may also be because the exent of the damage hasn't yet been made explicit. That may take months or even years to unwind. The incoming administration may make this clearer once they are in the White House. Then the general public may begin to care much more.

This GOP mini-insurrection feels like a distraction, tbh. Meanwhile, the U.S. systems have been hacked to death by the Russians and the extent of the damage continues to unfold.

That's great news @Taoboi ! Please continue to be vigilant in taking care of yourself. Thanks to everyone who has been sending me kind condolences. I've actually been talking about it with mutual friends and acquaintances, so I am no longer keeping feelings inside, which has provided a bit of release.

Barbara was never and could never stay a vixen, just like she could never remain a heroine/ingenue perpetually. It is par for the course that the character would have a reset. All I'm saying is why not embrace the journey while you're at it? Technically, JR Ewing was one note but that didn't stop him from embracing the role and all that came with it. Which is likely why Larry Hagman landed on the covers of magazine and decades after Dallas went off the air, people still remember the character.

Speaking of bringing all the smoke, this lady wasn't afraid!

Where would Ivanka run for Congress? Surely not NYC. Maybe a wisp of a chance if she ran on Staten Island before the demographics thoroughly change, as has already been happening but nobody else can stand her in NYC. Better take that to Florida or somewhere else.

See, I didn't see it as Barbara trying to get Tom back. At all. I saw it as Barbara burning through the vestiges of her former life as a doormat and put upon wife. People seem to forget that she interjected herself even more between Brian and Shannon. Now, you can make a case for her wanting Brian back, even going so far to plot a surprise to bust up Shannon and Brian's wedding. If you saw the scenes between Barbara and Margo where Barbara accused Margo of bringing about the trouble in her marriage, by not being a good wife to Tom, you'll see that it was more about her relationship to Margo, rather than Tom. If it was about wanting Tom, the tension and enmity would not have continued when Barbara was with Hal, but it did. AFAIC, it was more about old wounds between Barbara and Margo bearing fruit. Another thing, these actors contradict themselves. In an interview, Colleen said that she spent her first several episodes apologizing to various characters, because apparently, the character previously caused a lot of tumult and promptly left town. Apparently, Barbara was no angel even from the earliest incarnation of the character, so Colleen should've known what time it was, 😂. Now, had she won an Emmy (and quite frankly, she should have been nominated for her performance), she likely would've felt differently. It's likely the reason why unfortunately these soaps usually deferred to the men to play the most complex characters-- most of the women just seemed as if they didn't want that smoke, lol.

There has been some talk about not seating those electeds in the convening of the new Congress. I'm going to need less talk about it and more 'be about it'. There needs to be clarity on the consequences that will result from such an action and the consequences need to be steep.

This should be implemented in every state.

America's inhumane, overcrowded and little-considered prison system is really buckling under the weight of the pandemic.

Lucinda and Barbara had an interesting relationship, especially in their early years. You got the sense that Barbara looked up to Lucinda (and became a sort of protege) and Lucinda seemed to genuinely like Barbara, so much so that Lucinda held back from any retaliation when she discovered that Barbara had been having an affair with her son-in-law Tonio. Things changed when Lucinda's "It's just business" ethos caused her to do to Barbara what she essentially did to Steve Andropoulos, which was to take advantage of a vulnerable proprietor and vulture the company. On most other soaps, this type of storyline would likely be written for men, but I like the fact that it was written for two women and in such an organic way.

The optics of this... Certainly not a vote of confidence for Johnson.

Thanks for the well-wishes, @Khan @DRW50 2020 was a tough year for all of and the loss of live has been unfathomable. It's probably a combination of that and feeling momentarily overwhelmed. We will all get through this. From the looks of it, Great Britain barely knows what it's doing as well.

Don't want to use the word "disaster" but this vaccine rollout has been far from ideal, to say the least.

Just found out that a colleague died of COVID-19 a few days ago. I hadn't been in touch with him for a number of years. At first, I felt oddly numb and then I began to remember be bits, hos personality quirks and moments of kindness and generosity and it made me smile, even giggle but now, I feel inexplicably and unbelievably down.

I'm sorry but every time I think of that storyline, I keep hearing Helen and Christian Slater yelling "Fair is Fair!" 😂

The writer who came up with the idea for the "Oakdale Three (or Four)", now that's youth obsessed.

Being that P&G, like most soap production companies, seemed to be chasing the youth demographic, I think most writers on the daytime dramas could be said to prefer to write for young love, because if you don't (or of you seem not to), you might find yourself looking for a new job. In Still, with Bob and Kim having some of the most consequential storylines in the mid to late 80s, Lisa not hurting for romantic pairings, it's hard for me to say that Marland preferred writing young love.

Every time I read about how much Liz liked to play fast and loose with scripts, the more it floors me that she is the same woman who once dated Paddy Chayefsky, who was notoriously controlling over his work in a way tha Marland could only dream of being.

Welcome From what I have been able to glean, it seems as though some interviews may have been out there years before the reunion live stream, but I admit, much of the talk recently stemmed from discussion that came specifically from those reunion live streams.