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  1. Holy sh*t. Don Hastings was the absolute highlight! He hasn't aged a day since 2010.
  2. I have that episode jotted down in a list of undated episodes. Oakdalian's channel only places it in June 1991 I think, without an exact date. But from what you're saying, it sounds like the wedding had already happened in the Death Of David Stewart episode? Then it would have to be June 3 or June 4 (or May 31, if Oakdalian is wrong about June). Since the June 3 episode is in the archives, it seems like a good educated guess. I'll see if I can dig up something. Thanks for your continued alertness while you're watching these episodes!
  3. What's interesting about all of this is that SoapClassics was actuallty working on an online platform to release episodes. In The Netherlands (and I believe South-Africa?) it had set out a site which contained the first five months of 2005 (The Netherlands) and two weeks in August/September 2007 (South-Africa). Quite a bit of music had been digitally removed, which was a bit odd, especially when characters were dancing to nothing, but the episodes were very watchable and of high quality (visually, that is. Early 2005 wasn't my favorite era of the show, and I say that as someone who only watched the 00s originally. The show ticked back up in the summer of '05 in my opinion). Unfortunately, soon after this project was set up, SoapClassics went out of business. I'm glad I saved the episodes immediately.
  4. Our next checkpoint is November 13, 1984, which is in the P&G Archives as #7377. This means 2 episodes were pre-empted in between, which is problematic, because we have already confirmed 3 pre-emptions. Therefore, one of the "confirmed" episode numbers must, actually, be wrong. However, if we take this period and the next three periods (both of which remain open) together, it still works out. These are the three episodes we have confirmed as pre-empted: November 22, 1984: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] November 23, 1984: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] December 25, 1984: Christmas [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] To make matters worse, we have a strong candidate for yet a fourth pre-emption in this period: January 1, 1985: New Year's Day [January 1 episodes were pre-empted in every other year since 1974, with the exception of 2004] November 13, 1984 - March 19, 1985: 2 pre-emptions, yet 3 pre-emptions confirmed; 1 more strong candidate. Status: open/error -- August 2, 1984 is also in the P&G Archives as #7307. Based on the episode numbers, 3 episodes were pre-empted. We know about 2 of them for sure: September 3, 1984: US Open September 7, 1984: US Open We don't have any further evidence of possible pre-emptions, but I'm assuming the remaining pre-emption belongs in the period above instead. August 2, 1984 - November 13, 1984: 3 pre-emptions, 2 confirmed, 0 candidates. Status: open -- The 7,000th episode is widely reported to have aired on May 20, 1983. This would mean 7 episodes were pre-empted in between. We know about 6: September 5, 1983: US Open September 9, 1983: US Open November 24, 1983: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] November 25, 1983: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] December 26, 1983: Extended Christmas holiday [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] January 2, 1984: Extended New Year's holiday [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] For the remaining pre-emption, we have no contenders. However, I'm assuming this pre-emption belongs in one of the above periods instead. May 20, 1983 - August 2, 1984: 7 pre-emptions, 6 confirmed, 0 candidates. Status: open -- If we take all three of the above periods together, the numbers actually work out (although that's a big if, obviously): Between May 20, 1983 and March 19, 1985, 12 episodes were pre-empted. We know about 11 for sure: September 5, 1983: US Open September 9, 1983: US Open November 24, 1983: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] November 25, 1983: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] December 26, 1983: Extended Christmas holiday [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] January 2, 1984: Extended New Year's holiday [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] September 3, 1984: US Open September 7, 1984: US Open November 22, 1984: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] November 23, 1984: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] December 25, 1984: Christmas [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] For the remaining pre-emption, we have 1 strong contender: January 1, 1985: New Year's Day [January 1 episodes were pre-empted in every other year since 1974, with the exception of 2004] May 20, 1983 - March 19, 1985: 12 pre-emptions, 11 confirmed, 1 contender. Status: open
  5. Also, at the time of his first appearance, Luke was still being played by Christopher Tavani, and, therefore, much younger than Karl's character. This was when Will had just been released from prison. Will saved Luke from his bullies at a time when Lily was trying hard to get Will locked up again (as she couldn't forgive him for murdering her sister). About a year later, Luke has been SORAS-ed (with Jake Weary, then Van Hansis) and started hanging out with Kevin.
  6. In case anyone's interested, I've turned the list into an excel file with filters, which makes it easy to search by last name, first name, title, actor, time period, or even info, when you are looking for a specific someone. I'd be more than happy to share that with anyone who's interested. Just send me a PM.
  7. Outstanding! I love finding channels I didn't know about. I see the episode also ends in a "join us tomorrow". There is an 1998 episode, including a "join us again Monday", that I did not yet find elsewhere on the channel as well. Thanks for the heads-up, I made sure to subscribe! I'll add in the info once I get to the complete overhaul! Sorry it's been a while, these are crazy times we live in. We'll pick things up at November 3, 1987, which is where we got last time. The next confirmed episode number is #7904 on December 9, 1986, which comes from a script. This means there were 19 pre-emptions (which means it's Iran-Contra time!). We know about these 5 pre-emptions: December 25, 1986: Christmas January 1, 1987: New Year's Day July 23, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? [pre-emption confirmed by Dan Region in the credits] September 7, 1987: US Open September 11, 1987: US Open For the 14 remaining pre-emptions, I have 17 potential candidates: July 7, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 8, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 9, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 10, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 13, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 14, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 15, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 16, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 17, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 20, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 27, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 28, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 29, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 30, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 31, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? August 3, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? August 4, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? December 9, 1986 - November 3, 1987: 19 pre-emptions, 5 confirmed, 17 candidates. Status: open -- The November 7, 1986 episode (Hello, Barbara) is in the P&G Archives as #7884, which means that 2 episodes were pre-empted. We know about both of them: November 27, 1986: Thanksgiving November 28, 1986: Thanksgiving November 7, 1986 - December 9, 1986: 2 pre-emptions, both confirmed. Status: closed -- The April 2, 1986 episode (30th anniversary) is in the P&G Corporate Archives and in the ATAS-UCLA archives as #7729, which means 2 episodes were pre-empted. We know about both of them: September 1, 1986: US Open September 5, 1986: US Open April 2, 1986 - November 7, 1986: 2 pre-emptions, both confirmed. Status: closed -- The March 19, 1985 episode was #7465 according to a script, which means 7 episodes were pre-empted. We know about all 7: September 2, 1985: US Open September 6, 1985: US Open November 28, 1985: Thanksgiving November 29, 1985: Thanksgiving December 25, 1985: Christmas January 1, 1986: New Year's Day January 28, 1986: Challenger disaster coverage March 19, 1985 - April 2, 1986: 7 pre-emptions, all confirmed. Status: closed
  8. Thanks for sharing! I've always wondered just when exactly Wagner & MacLaughlin were written out. It's so interesting to see the article singling out Helen Wagner, instead of going for "Wagner and MacLaughlin out of a job". I'm used to Helen being mentioned on her her own from the many years she was (thankfully) on the show after Don's death, but I always assumed before that it was always Don & Helen.
  9. 3 new episode numbers? Nice work @Paul Raven. I'll try to process these ASAP. I will also continue working my way back, connecting episode numbers, as I was doing, I've just been a bit busy lately.
  10. That's the "was cast on a third show" I was referring to above, indeed. Thanks slick!
  11. Perhaps I can be of some assistance... Here's a screencap of Sgt. Doyle from 1980. Can anyone confirm that this is Guardino?
  12. I just realized, to my shock, that one of the most celebrated and longest-running actors from As The World Turns is still missing from the list. I can't believe I hadn't noticed that before, I guess I'd always thought he'd been done somewhere in the first 20 pages. In addition to his 35 years on ATWT, I know he had at least one other daytime role, and he was cast on a third show. He was also nominated for 8 Daytime Emmy's, taking home 2 of them. Slick, would you be so kind as to do a hopper profile for the legendary... Larry Bryggman
  13. Damn. What a tremendous loss. I'm a big fan of Inside The Actors Studio, and I have always had an endless amount of respect for him and found him to be a true class act. I haven't caught any episodes since he's stepped down as host, and while I appreciate the attempt to carry on the legacy, I can't quite imagine the show without him. I would have never guessed he was 93, he looked much younger to me. I can only hope that heaven exists and that when Mr. Lipton arrived at the pearly gates, God said: "You see Jim, you were wrong, I exist. But you may come in anyway". Rest in peace, James Lipton
  14. The next confirmed episode number is #8603, airing October 2, 1989, which is in the P&G Archives. 2 episodes need to have been pre-empted, and we know both of them: November 23, 1989: Thanksgiving November 24, 1989: Thanksgiving October 2, 1989 - December 8, 1989: 2 pre-emptions, both confirmed. Status: closed -- #8550, airing July 17, 1989, is everywhere (P&G Archives, ATAS-UCLA Television Archive, Museum of Broadcast Communications). 2 episodes were pre-empted, we know both of them: September 4, 1989: US Open September 8, 1989: US Open July 17, 1989 - October 2, 1989: 2 pre-emptions, both confirmed. Status: closed -- The March 20, 1989 episode is in the ATAS-UCLA Television Archive as #8465. That lines up perfectly, meaning there were no pre-emptions in between. March 20, 1989 - July 17, 1989: 0 pre-emptions. Status: closed -- February 17, 1989 is in the P&G Archives as #8445, meaning there was 1 pre-emption, which we have confirmed: February 20, 1989: NBA Game (Houston vs. Cleveland) February 17, 1989 - March 20, 1989: 1 pre-emption, confirmed. Status: closed -- And then there is no confirmed number until November 3, 1987, nearly 1,5 years before. That episode is in the P&G Archives as #8120. There were 14 pre-emptions in between. We know about 10 of them: November 26, 1987: Thanksgiving November 27, 1987: Thanksgiving December 25, 1987: Christmas January 1, 1988: New Year's Day September 5, 1988: US Open September 9, 1988: US Open November 24, 1988: Thanksgiving November 25, 1988: Thanksgiving December 26, 1988: Extended Christmas Holiday? [confirmed in The Journal listings] January 2, 1989: Extended New Year's Holiday / Tournament of Roses For the remaining 4 pre-emptions, I have 5 potential contenders: December 19, 1988: possible pre-emption in this week as per @YRfan23? [listed regularly in The Journal] December 20, 1988: possible pre-emption in this week as per @YRfan23? [listed regularly in The Journal] December 21, 1988: possible pre-emption in this week as per @YRfan23? [listed regularly in The Journal] December 22, 1988: possible pre-emption in this week as per @YRfan23? [listed regularly in The Journal] January 20, 1989: Bush inauguration? [listed regularly in The Journal] Interestingly enough, I found absolutely nothing in the listings for that week about the inauguration. I did find that the Bush inauguration took place at noon. Since ATWT aired at 2PM, I'm wondering if the festivities would have been over by then? But that still doesn't account for the fact that the listings in The Journal didn't have anything at noon either. So possibly as mistake was made, in which case we shouldn't factor in the regular listing too heavily. November 3, 1987 - February 17, 1989: 14 pre-emptions, 10 confirmed, 5 contenders. Status: open
  15. OK, we left off on June 3, 1991. Next up is January 8, 1991, which is in the P&G Archives (and Museum of Broadcast Communications) as #8920. This means 5 episodes were pre-empted in between. We know about these two for sure: March 14, 1991: NCAA Men's Basketball March 15, 1991: NCAA Men's Basketball We have two potential candidates for the final three slots: January 9, 1991: Possibly pre-empted for Gulf War news coverage? January 17, 1991: Possibly pre-empted for Gulf War news coverage? January 8, 1991 - June 3, 1991: 5 pre-emptions, 2 confirmed, 2 candidates. Status: open -- December 20, 1990 is in the ATAS-UCLA Television Archives as #8910, which means 3 episodes were pre-empted in between. We know about all three of them: December 25, 1990: Christmas December 31, 1990: New Year's Eve January 1, 1991: New Year's Day December 20, 1990 - January 8, 1991: 3 pre-emptions, all confirmed. Status: closed -- July 30, 1990 is also in the ATAS-UCLA Television Archives, as #8812. This means 5 episodes were pre-empted. We have 4 confirmed: September 3, 1990: US Open September 7, 1990: US Open November 22, 1990: Thanksgiving November 23, 1990: Thanksgiving For the remaining pre-emption, we have one candidate: August 22, 1990: possibly pre-empted as per @YRfan23 [the episode does appear in the newspaper listings, so if pre-empted, this would have been an unplanned pre-emption] July 30, 1990 - December 20, 1990: 5 pre-emptions, 4 confirmed, 1 candidate. Status: open -- July 4, 1990 is also in the same archive, as #8794. This lines up perfectly, which means there were no pre-emptions. July 4, 1990 - July 30, 1990: 0 pre-emptions. Status: closed -- June 15, 1990 is also in the same archive (and the P&G Archive, and the Museum of Broadcast Communications), as #8794. This lines up perfectly, which means there were no pre-emptions. June 15, 1990 - July 4, 1990: 0 pre-emptions. Status: closed -- December 8, 1989 is also in the ATAS-UCLA Television Archive, as #8650. This means there were 4 pre-emptions. We know about three: January 1, 1990: New Year's Day February 19, 1990: NBA Afternoon Basketball Game May 28, 1990: NBA Eastern Conference Playoff Game I have one contender for the remaining pre-emption: December 25, 1989: Christmas [listed as pre-empted in the newspapers, but appears on 2 Youtube channels from a later SoapNet re-airing. Possibly dated wrong?] December 8, 1989 - June 15, 1990: 4 pre-emptions, 3 confirmed, 1 contender. Status: open
  16. Just found a lot more info on the collection held by the Jerome Lawrence & Robert E. Lee Theatre Research Institute, including a LOT of episode numbers! Unfortunately, many of them do not match up with the episode numbers we've previously established (particularyly those from the P&G Archives), and some of them don't even match up with each other. Some of the dates listed are even weekend days. I swear, I love working on this project, but sometimes it just gets extremly frustrating. Sometimes, I wonder if this show actually had 13.858 episodes, or if that's just what some writers thought was the correct number. Anyways, you know I will be triple-checking all of these numbers against the previously "established" info. I'll let you know when I know more. https://library.ohio-state.edu/search~S7?/fSPEC.TRI.ATW.1/fspec+tri+atw+1/-3%2C-1%2C0%2CE/frameset&FF=fspec+tri+atw+1&1%2C1%2C
  17. The Lisa plot thickens... The Paley Center has an episode dated December 16, 1965, which they called "Lisa And Bob's Custody Battle". According to our info now, this would be in between Fulton's exit to do OPW (in '65) and her return (in '67). Interestingly, the cast list for the episode does not include Fulton or the character of Lisa. Was Bob involved in a custody battle with an offscreen Lisa? Did Fulton make an appearance during her break from the show? Did Fulton in fact return much earlier than we previously believed?
  18. I just found a wonderful page with descriptions for 1956/57 episodes, coming from TV Guide issues. http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/stories/1956.html http://www.oocities.org/TelevisionCity/Studio/5185/stories/1957.html However, this info seems to corroborate your first post above, not the second. It also states there actually WAS a Thanksgiving pre-emption. What do you think @Paul Raven? How are we to interpret this info?
  19. I just checked the Wikipedia page for CBS Olympic Broadcasts, and apparently CBS covered it in 1960 (Winter & Summer), and then in 1992, 1994 and 1998 (Winter only). They had the NBA rights from 1973 - 1990, so there might be a lot more there. I'm making a mental note to dive into that, try to find afternoon games and/or dates that were simultaneously holidays. May 26, 1986 seems to have aired, if it's dated correctly. May 1985 is wide open still, so it's possible. Thanks so much for your help!
  20. From October 2, we make our way to June 11, which is #9025 according to... the UCLA Library (I know... but this one will be backed up by the next entry, bear with me). There were 4 pre-emptions, and we know about two of them for sure: September 2, 1991: US Open September 6, 1991: US Open For the remaining two pre-emption slots, I have one potential candidate: August 20, 1991: Reason unknown, but could have been pre-empted according to @YRfan23 [listed regularly in historical newspapers, so if pre-empted, would have been an unplanned pre-emption] June 11, 1991 - October 2, 1991: 4 pre-emptions, 2 confirmed, 1 candidate. Status: open -- So, the reason why I trust that UCLA-based date is that only a few episodes earlier, on June 3, we get to #9019, which is in the P&G Corporate Archives (as well as the Museum of Broadcast Communications). That one matches up with #9025, so there would not have been any pre-emptions. Of course, there is a slight chance the June 3/#9025 combination could be off, but either way, we are looking for 2 more pre-emptions in between June 3 and October 2. June 3, 1991 - June 11, 1991: 0 pre-emptions. Status: closed
  21. From December 10, 1991 onwards, the next checkpoint is October 2, 1991, #9102, which is in the P&G Archives and therefore a non-UCLA source. 2 episodes were pre-empted, one of which we know for sure: November 28, 1991: Thanksgiving For the remaining pre-emption, I have 2 potential candidates. Both episodes are listed as airing in the newspapers, but there could have been unplanned pre-emptions: October 9, 1991: dual Baseball game?? October 11, 1991: Clarence Thomas hearings?? Out of the two, the CT hearings seem a more likely candidate, as the dual Baseball game would have surely been planned and therefore appeared in the listings? But now I'm speculating and I try to do as little of that as I can. October 2, 1991 - December 10, 1991: 2 pre-emptions, 1 confirmed, 2 candidates. Status: open -- Since the UCLA dates in the last few posts got a bit messy, here is this entire period between non-UCLA checkpoints: October 2, 1991 (#9102) is in the P&G Archives, as is November 10, 1992 (#9381). In between, there were 10 pre-emptions. We know about these 9: November 28, 1991: Thanksgiving December 25, 1991: Christmas December 31, 1991: New Year's Eve January 1, 1992: New Year's Day February 17, 1992: Olympics March 19, 1992: NCAA Men's Basketball March 20, 1992: NCAA Men's Basketball September 7, 1992: US Open September 11, 1992: US Open For the remaining pre-emption, we have these two candidates: October 9, 1991: dual Baseball game?? October 11, 1991: Clarence Thomas hearings?? October 2, 1991 - November 10, 1992: 10 pre-emptions, 9 confirmed, 2 candidates. Status: open
  22. I have the February 16, 1998 episode as pre-empted! Thanks for filling in those blanks for '92 and '94. What about '96? The only Monday I have left that could possibly be pre-empted is Monday February 26, 1996. Do you happen to know if that matches up with the Olympics? Do you know when CBS Sports coverage of the Olympics began? I have Monday February 19, 1990 pre-empted as well. In 1988 I have no info on any of the February Mondays. In 1986, however, all of the February Mondays seem to have aired for ATWT.
  23. You liked that? Procter & Gamble Television Script Collection: http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives;cc=wiarchives;view=text;rgn=main;didno=uw-whs-mss00784 The Irna Phillips Papers: http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives;cc=wiarchives;q1=as the world turns;rgn=main;view=text;didno=uw-whs-us0076an Guide To The Community Life TV Soap Operas Collection: https://sirismm.si.edu/EADpdfs/NMAH.AC.0108.pdf As The World Turns Collection: https://library.osu.edu/collections/SPEC.TRI.ATW/collection-inventory William And Lee Bell Collection Of Scripts For Television Soap Operas: http://pdf.oac.cdlib.org/pdf/ucla/pasc/wjbell.pdf Ahh, if only I lived near one of these places...
  24. I stumbled on something interesting while I was doing some research for the episode list. The contents of the Bridget & Jerome Dobson Papers, a collection held in Wisconsin: http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives;cc=wiarchives;q1=as the world turns;rgn=main;view=text;didno=uw-whs-mss01082 The whole page looks like a wealth of information, but I was particularly interested at some of the character names included. April Montgomery? I wonder if this list includes characters that were created, but ultimateley never used. At least I have never heard of the name April Montgomery before. I guess she could have been Bart's sister or his new wife? These are the characters I have never heard of before. Does anyone have any info on any of these? Did they actually appear on the show? Garth Basnum Barney Hollister (Brad and Eric's father? I believe their other brother was named Stan?) Jace Hutchinson April Montgomery Skye Sullivan (Cody's mother? sister?)
  25. OK, the next bit gets a bit tricky, so bear with me. I want to take you through the thinking process, but if you want the short version, skip to the section on the bottom of this post... We left things at August 3, 1992 (#9312). The next number I have is #9177 on January 20, 1992, which is also in the UCLA Library. Trying to connect those two numbers tells us that 5 episodes must have been pre-empted in between. We know about 3 of them: February 17, 1992: Winter Olympics Coverage [thanks @kalbir for confirming] March 19, 1992: NCAA Men's Basketball March 20, 1992: NCAA Men's Basketball For the remaining 2 pre-emptions, we unfortunately have no leads: January 20, 1992 - August 3, 1992: 5 pre-emptions, 3 confirmed, 2 unknown. Status: open -- The next confirmed number, also from th UCLA Library, is #9149 on December 10, 1991. This would mean that only 1 episode would have been pre-empted in between December 10 and January 20, yet I have 3 pre-emptions confirmed: December 25, 1991: Christmas December 31, 1991: New Year's Eve January 1, 1992: New Year's Day December 10, 1991 - January 20, 1992: 1 pre-emption, yet 3 confirmed. Status: system failure -- However, if we combine these two sections, we find that in between December 10 and August 3, a total of 6 episodes must have been pre-empted and we have exactly 6 pre-emptions confirmed. Therefore, it seems like either the date or the number is off for the #9177/January 20, 1991 entry in the UCLA Library. Now, this is a bit of a slippery slope, as both of the other episodes used for reference (August 3, 1992 and December 10, 1991) come from the UCLA Library as well. If this one entry is off, who's to say the others are correct? So, in my next post, not only will I tie the December 10, 1991 episode to the next non-UCLA checkpoint, but I will also tie that checkpoint to November 10, 1992, which was the last non-UCLA checkpoint we've encountered. December 10, 1991 - August 3, 1992: 6 pre-emptions, all confirmed. Status: closed
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