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I am still loving these live chats, but I do wish Alan would have spent a bit more time asking ATWT-related questions. In the other two, I loved hearing which castmates they are still in touch with. With this group especially, I just think it's really nice that they are all still up for it. Most of them were young when they were on the show and were only there for a few years. It would have been too easy for them to want to play down there involvement in soaps, but they all still seem very appreciative. I wasn't expecting Agim and Alexandra to know each other as well as they seemed to, as Alexandra came on after Agim left. Then Agim returned when Alexandra was on the way out, and when Alexandra returned, Agim was gone. Also, it's funny how sometimes when you are only accustomed to reading - not hearing - a name, you find out that you have been mispronouncing it for nearly 20 years. I've always thought Agim was pronounced Adjim. I respect Van for refusing to name-and-shame, but I DO wonder which actor he was referring to. Like many others, I would love to see vets and/or Marland-era actors, but I do think we need to be realistic about this. Out of the older actors, not everyone is going to be as good with technology as Don. And from the Marland-era, not everyone might be willing to revisit a job from 30 years ago. Plus, I get the impression - not sure though - that Alan was only with the show for the final decade or so, so he might not even be able to contact some of those people. I think our best bet might be if some of the actors, like Martha, spread the word.

We left of on May 20, 1983. The next checkpoint is October 29, 1982, which is in the Jerome Lawrence & Robert E. Lee Theatre Research Institute as #6857. This means that 2 episodes were pre-empted in between. We got both verified: November 25, 1982: Thanksgiving November 26, 1982: Thanksgiving October 29, 1982 - May 20, 1983: 2 pre-emptions, both verified. Status: closed -- October 6, 1982 is in the P&G Archives as #6840, which lines up perfectly, meaning there were no pre-emptions. October 6, 1982 - October 29, 1982: No pre-emptions. Status: closed -- The script of the September 8, 1982 episode is detailed in the book Writing For Soaps as #6821, meaning there was 1 pre-emption, and we have it confirmed: September 10, 1982: US Open September 8, 1982 - October 6, 1982: 1 pre-emption, verified. Status: closed -- The script for the May 7, 1982 episode is listed as #6734, meaning there was 1 pre-emption. We know it already: September 6, 1982: US Open May 7, 1982 - September 8, 1982: 1 pre-emption, confirmed. Status: closed -- According to Patricia Bruder Debrovner, February 5, 1982 is #6669, which means no episodes were pre-empted. February 5, 1982 - May 7, 1982: no pre-emptions. Status: closed -- Patricia also lists February 2, 1982 as #6666, which lines up perfectly. February 2, 1982 - February 5, 1982: no pre-emptions. Status: closed -- Unfortunately, following those smooth periods, a few much trickier periods are coming up next... -- Just for the record: the videos from the P&G archives are not (necessarily) available on YouTube. I included them in the list, because number one: if they are in the archive, that means an episode aired on that date and two: they provided me with many episode numbers (although I'm not sure they are all correct. So it's not you, these videos are not on YT.

Soap Opera Digest has Maura's debut down as April 11, 1995 (as per one of the recent 5 things that happened today in soap history).

I'd love to know the answer to that one. The scrapbook is super detailed about the late 80s, but gets very sparse in the early 90s. I am still continuously surprised to learn about storylines that I didn't even know about. I keep wishing the person who ran that tumblr would suddenly pop back up and resume it...

I'm so confused by this non-issue being discussed that I actually went back to check the video. There was a momentary confusion over different Scotts, while at least four people were mentioning at least four different Scotts. That has absolutely nothing to do with memory from my perspective. At a later point he wasn't able to reproduce the name of Steve Bassett, who was the co-star that was with him, Kathy and Julianne in during the Sabrina storyline in Europe. Can we please remember that he was on the show for 50 years? He was asked about a co-star that he has exactly one storyline with, 34 years ago. If that's a memory issue than I think we all have memory issues. As others have said, the actresses had trouble remembering which of their own children was born during the Spa storyline. I'm sorry, people are entitled to their own opinion, but I think these comments are highly disrespectful to a wonderful man who has given his entire life for this show. If we want to get more vets to appear in these chats, this is not the way to go about it. I, for one, remain absolutely shocked over how young Don Hastings came across, both inside and out. He was the absolute highlight. I'd love to see which other vets are game to do one of these.

Agreed. When it was announced I was a bit "meh" on it, but I truly enjoyed every minute of it. Just as a quick aside. I don't think I have ever seen the cast photo that is used as the thumbnail for this video. Must have been '99, from the looks of it. The only person I can't immediately place is the guy behind Hal (although when you tell me who it is, I'm sure I'll feel stupid for not thinking of it). I'm not sure if people have like photo collections or something... would anyone happen to have this photo? I'd love to take a better look at it.

Holy sh*t. Don Hastings was the absolute highlight! He hasn't aged a day since 2010.

I have that episode jotted down in a list of undated episodes. Oakdalian's channel only places it in June 1991 I think, without an exact date. But from what you're saying, it sounds like the wedding had already happened in the Death Of David Stewart episode? Then it would have to be June 3 or June 4 (or May 31, if Oakdalian is wrong about June). Since the June 3 episode is in the archives, it seems like a good educated guess. I'll see if I can dig up something. Thanks for your continued alertness while you're watching these episodes!

What's interesting about all of this is that SoapClassics was actuallty working on an online platform to release episodes. In The Netherlands (and I believe South-Africa?) it had set out a site which contained the first five months of 2005 (The Netherlands) and two weeks in August/September 2007 (South-Africa). Quite a bit of music had been digitally removed, which was a bit odd, especially when characters were dancing to nothing, but the episodes were very watchable and of high quality (visually, that is. Early 2005 wasn't my favorite era of the show, and I say that as someone who only watched the 00s originally. The show ticked back up in the summer of '05 in my opinion). Unfortunately, soon after this project was set up, SoapClassics went out of business. I'm glad I saved the episodes immediately.

Our next checkpoint is November 13, 1984, which is in the P&G Archives as #7377. This means 2 episodes were pre-empted in between, which is problematic, because we have already confirmed 3 pre-emptions. Therefore, one of the "confirmed" episode numbers must, actually, be wrong. However, if we take this period and the next three periods (both of which remain open) together, it still works out. These are the three episodes we have confirmed as pre-empted: November 22, 1984: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] November 23, 1984: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] December 25, 1984: Christmas [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] To make matters worse, we have a strong candidate for yet a fourth pre-emption in this period: January 1, 1985: New Year's Day [January 1 episodes were pre-empted in every other year since 1974, with the exception of 2004] November 13, 1984 - March 19, 1985: 2 pre-emptions, yet 3 pre-emptions confirmed; 1 more strong candidate. Status: open/error -- August 2, 1984 is also in the P&G Archives as #7307. Based on the episode numbers, 3 episodes were pre-empted. We know about 2 of them for sure: September 3, 1984: US Open September 7, 1984: US Open We don't have any further evidence of possible pre-emptions, but I'm assuming the remaining pre-emption belongs in the period above instead. August 2, 1984 - November 13, 1984: 3 pre-emptions, 2 confirmed, 0 candidates. Status: open -- The 7,000th episode is widely reported to have aired on May 20, 1983. This would mean 7 episodes were pre-empted in between. We know about 6: September 5, 1983: US Open September 9, 1983: US Open November 24, 1983: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] November 25, 1983: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] December 26, 1983: Extended Christmas holiday [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] January 2, 1984: Extended New Year's holiday [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] For the remaining pre-emption, we have no contenders. However, I'm assuming this pre-emption belongs in one of the above periods instead. May 20, 1983 - August 2, 1984: 7 pre-emptions, 6 confirmed, 0 candidates. Status: open -- If we take all three of the above periods together, the numbers actually work out (although that's a big if, obviously): Between May 20, 1983 and March 19, 1985, 12 episodes were pre-empted. We know about 11 for sure: September 5, 1983: US Open September 9, 1983: US Open November 24, 1983: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] November 25, 1983: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] December 26, 1983: Extended Christmas holiday [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] January 2, 1984: Extended New Year's holiday [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] September 3, 1984: US Open September 7, 1984: US Open November 22, 1984: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] November 23, 1984: Thanksgiving [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] December 25, 1984: Christmas [pre-emption confirmed in The Journal listing] For the remaining pre-emption, we have 1 strong contender: January 1, 1985: New Year's Day [January 1 episodes were pre-empted in every other year since 1974, with the exception of 2004] May 20, 1983 - March 19, 1985: 12 pre-emptions, 11 confirmed, 1 contender. Status: open

Also, at the time of his first appearance, Luke was still being played by Christopher Tavani, and, therefore, much younger than Karl's character. This was when Will had just been released from prison. Will saved Luke from his bullies at a time when Lily was trying hard to get Will locked up again (as she couldn't forgive him for murdering her sister). About a year later, Luke has been SORAS-ed (with Jake Weary, then Van Hansis) and started hanging out with Kevin.

In case anyone's interested, I've turned the list into an excel file with filters, which makes it easy to search by last name, first name, title, actor, time period, or even info, when you are looking for a specific someone. I'd be more than happy to share that with anyone who's interested. Just send me a PM.

Outstanding! I love finding channels I didn't know about. I see the episode also ends in a "join us tomorrow". There is an 1998 episode, including a "join us again Monday", that I did not yet find elsewhere on the channel as well. Thanks for the heads-up, I made sure to subscribe! I'll add in the info once I get to the complete overhaul! Sorry it's been a while, these are crazy times we live in. We'll pick things up at November 3, 1987, which is where we got last time. The next confirmed episode number is #7904 on December 9, 1986, which comes from a script. This means there were 19 pre-emptions (which means it's Iran-Contra time!). We know about these 5 pre-emptions: December 25, 1986: Christmas January 1, 1987: New Year's Day July 23, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? [pre-emption confirmed by Dan Region in the credits] September 7, 1987: US Open September 11, 1987: US Open For the 14 remaining pre-emptions, I have 17 potential candidates: July 7, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 8, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 9, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 10, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 13, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 14, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 15, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 16, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 17, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 20, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 27, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 28, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 29, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 30, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? July 31, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? August 3, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? August 4, 1987: Iran-Contra hearings? December 9, 1986 - November 3, 1987: 19 pre-emptions, 5 confirmed, 17 candidates. Status: open -- The November 7, 1986 episode (Hello, Barbara) is in the P&G Archives as #7884, which means that 2 episodes were pre-empted. We know about both of them: November 27, 1986: Thanksgiving November 28, 1986: Thanksgiving November 7, 1986 - December 9, 1986: 2 pre-emptions, both confirmed. Status: closed -- The April 2, 1986 episode (30th anniversary) is in the P&G Corporate Archives and in the ATAS-UCLA archives as #7729, which means 2 episodes were pre-empted. We know about both of them: September 1, 1986: US Open September 5, 1986: US Open April 2, 1986 - November 7, 1986: 2 pre-emptions, both confirmed. Status: closed -- The March 19, 1985 episode was #7465 according to a script, which means 7 episodes were pre-empted. We know about all 7: September 2, 1985: US Open September 6, 1985: US Open November 28, 1985: Thanksgiving November 29, 1985: Thanksgiving December 25, 1985: Christmas January 1, 1986: New Year's Day January 28, 1986: Challenger disaster coverage March 19, 1985 - April 2, 1986: 7 pre-emptions, all confirmed. Status: closed

Thanks for sharing! I've always wondered just when exactly Wagner & MacLaughlin were written out. It's so interesting to see the article singling out Helen Wagner, instead of going for "Wagner and MacLaughlin out of a job". I'm used to Helen being mentioned on her her own from the many years she was (thankfully) on the show after Don's death, but I always assumed before that it was always Don & Helen.

3 new episode numbers? Nice work @Paul Raven. I'll try to process these ASAP. I will also continue working my way back, connecting episode numbers, as I was doing, I've just been a bit busy lately.

That's the "was cast on a third show" I was referring to above, indeed. Thanks slick!

Perhaps I can be of some assistance... Here's a screencap of Sgt. Doyle from 1980. Can anyone confirm that this is Guardino?

I just realized, to my shock, that one of the most celebrated and longest-running actors from As The World Turns is still missing from the list. I can't believe I hadn't noticed that before, I guess I'd always thought he'd been done somewhere in the first 20 pages. In addition to his 35 years on ATWT, I know he had at least one other daytime role, and he was cast on a third show. He was also nominated for 8 Daytime Emmy's, taking home 2 of them. Slick, would you be so kind as to do a hopper profile for the legendary... Larry Bryggman

The next confirmed episode number is #8603, airing October 2, 1989, which is in the P&G Archives. 2 episodes need to have been pre-empted, and we know both of them: November 23, 1989: Thanksgiving November 24, 1989: Thanksgiving October 2, 1989 - December 8, 1989: 2 pre-emptions, both confirmed. Status: closed -- #8550, airing July 17, 1989, is everywhere (P&G Archives, ATAS-UCLA Television Archive, Museum of Broadcast Communications). 2 episodes were pre-empted, we know both of them: September 4, 1989: US Open September 8, 1989: US Open July 17, 1989 - October 2, 1989: 2 pre-emptions, both confirmed. Status: closed -- The March 20, 1989 episode is in the ATAS-UCLA Television Archive as #8465. That lines up perfectly, meaning there were no pre-emptions in between. March 20, 1989 - July 17, 1989: 0 pre-emptions. Status: closed -- February 17, 1989 is in the P&G Archives as #8445, meaning there was 1 pre-emption, which we have confirmed: February 20, 1989: NBA Game (Houston vs. Cleveland) February 17, 1989 - March 20, 1989: 1 pre-emption, confirmed. Status: closed -- And then there is no confirmed number until November 3, 1987, nearly 1,5 years before. That episode is in the P&G Archives as #8120. There were 14 pre-emptions in between. We know about 10 of them: November 26, 1987: Thanksgiving November 27, 1987: Thanksgiving December 25, 1987: Christmas January 1, 1988: New Year's Day September 5, 1988: US Open September 9, 1988: US Open November 24, 1988: Thanksgiving November 25, 1988: Thanksgiving December 26, 1988: Extended Christmas Holiday? [confirmed in The Journal listings] January 2, 1989: Extended New Year's Holiday / Tournament of Roses For the remaining 4 pre-emptions, I have 5 potential contenders: December 19, 1988: possible pre-emption in this week as per @YRfan23? [listed regularly in The Journal] December 20, 1988: possible pre-emption in this week as per @YRfan23? [listed regularly in The Journal] December 21, 1988: possible pre-emption in this week as per @YRfan23? [listed regularly in The Journal] December 22, 1988: possible pre-emption in this week as per @YRfan23? [listed regularly in The Journal] January 20, 1989: Bush inauguration? [listed regularly in The Journal] Interestingly enough, I found absolutely nothing in the listings for that week about the inauguration. I did find that the Bush inauguration took place at noon. Since ATWT aired at 2PM, I'm wondering if the festivities would have been over by then? But that still doesn't account for the fact that the listings in The Journal didn't have anything at noon either. So possibly as mistake was made, in which case we shouldn't factor in the regular listing too heavily. November 3, 1987 - February 17, 1989: 14 pre-emptions, 10 confirmed, 5 contenders. Status: open

OK, we left off on June 3, 1991. Next up is January 8, 1991, which is in the P&G Archives (and Museum of Broadcast Communications) as #8920. This means 5 episodes were pre-empted in between. We know about these two for sure: March 14, 1991: NCAA Men's Basketball March 15, 1991: NCAA Men's Basketball We have two potential candidates for the final three slots: January 9, 1991: Possibly pre-empted for Gulf War news coverage? January 17, 1991: Possibly pre-empted for Gulf War news coverage? January 8, 1991 - June 3, 1991: 5 pre-emptions, 2 confirmed, 2 candidates. Status: open -- December 20, 1990 is in the ATAS-UCLA Television Archives as #8910, which means 3 episodes were pre-empted in between. We know about all three of them: December 25, 1990: Christmas December 31, 1990: New Year's Eve January 1, 1991: New Year's Day December 20, 1990 - January 8, 1991: 3 pre-emptions, all confirmed. Status: closed -- July 30, 1990 is also in the ATAS-UCLA Television Archives, as #8812. This means 5 episodes were pre-empted. We have 4 confirmed: September 3, 1990: US Open September 7, 1990: US Open November 22, 1990: Thanksgiving November 23, 1990: Thanksgiving For the remaining pre-emption, we have one candidate: August 22, 1990: possibly pre-empted as per @YRfan23 [the episode does appear in the newspaper listings, so if pre-empted, this would have been an unplanned pre-emption] July 30, 1990 - December 20, 1990: 5 pre-emptions, 4 confirmed, 1 candidate. Status: open -- July 4, 1990 is also in the same archive, as #8794. This lines up perfectly, which means there were no pre-emptions. July 4, 1990 - July 30, 1990: 0 pre-emptions. Status: closed -- June 15, 1990 is also in the same archive (and the P&G Archive, and the Museum of Broadcast Communications), as #8794. This lines up perfectly, which means there were no pre-emptions. June 15, 1990 - July 4, 1990: 0 pre-emptions. Status: closed -- December 8, 1989 is also in the ATAS-UCLA Television Archive, as #8650. This means there were 4 pre-emptions. We know about three: January 1, 1990: New Year's Day February 19, 1990: NBA Afternoon Basketball Game May 28, 1990: NBA Eastern Conference Playoff Game I have one contender for the remaining pre-emption: December 25, 1989: Christmas [listed as pre-empted in the newspapers, but appears on 2 Youtube channels from a later SoapNet re-airing. Possibly dated wrong?] December 8, 1989 - June 15, 1990: 4 pre-emptions, 3 confirmed, 1 contender. Status: open

Just found a lot more info on the collection held by the Jerome Lawrence & Robert E. Lee Theatre Research Institute, including a LOT of episode numbers! Unfortunately, many of them do not match up with the episode numbers we've previously established (particularyly those from the P&G Archives), and some of them don't even match up with each other. Some of the dates listed are even weekend days. 😧 I swear, I love working on this project, but sometimes it just gets extremly frustrating. Sometimes, I wonder if this show actually had 13.858 episodes, or if that's just what some writers thought was the correct number. Anyways, you know I will be triple-checking all of these numbers against the previously "established" info. I'll let you know when I know more. https://library.ohio-state.edu/search~S7?/fSPEC.TRI.ATW.1/fspec+tri+atw+1/-3%2C-1%2C0%2CE/frameset&FF=fspec+tri+atw+1&1%2C1%2C

The Lisa plot thickens... The Paley Center has an episode dated December 16, 1965, which they called "Lisa And Bob's Custody Battle". According to our info now, this would be in between Fulton's exit to do OPW (in '65) and her return (in '67). Interestingly, the cast list for the episode does not include Fulton or the character of Lisa. Was Bob involved in a custody battle with an offscreen Lisa? Did Fulton make an appearance during her break from the show? Did Fulton in fact return much earlier than we previously believed?

I just found a wonderful page with descriptions for 1956/57 episodes, coming from TV Guide issues. http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/stories/1956.html http://www.oocities.org/TelevisionCity/Studio/5185/stories/1957.html However, this info seems to corroborate your first post above, not the second. It also states there actually WAS a Thanksgiving pre-emption. What do you think @Paul Raven? How are we to interpret this info?

I just checked the Wikipedia page for CBS Olympic Broadcasts, and apparently CBS covered it in 1960 (Winter & Summer), and then in 1992, 1994 and 1998 (Winter only). They had the NBA rights from 1973 - 1990, so there might be a lot more there. I'm making a mental note to dive into that, try to find afternoon games and/or dates that were simultaneously holidays. May 26, 1986 seems to have aired, if it's dated correctly. May 1985 is wide open still, so it's possible. Thanks so much for your help!

From October 2, we make our way to June 11, which is #9025 according to... the UCLA Library (I know... but this one will be backed up by the next entry, bear with me). There were 4 pre-emptions, and we know about two of them for sure: September 2, 1991: US Open September 6, 1991: US Open For the remaining two pre-emption slots, I have one potential candidate: August 20, 1991: Reason unknown, but could have been pre-empted according to @YRfan23 [listed regularly in historical newspapers, so if pre-empted, would have been an unplanned pre-emption] June 11, 1991 - October 2, 1991: 4 pre-emptions, 2 confirmed, 1 candidate. Status: open -- So, the reason why I trust that UCLA-based date is that only a few episodes earlier, on June 3, we get to #9019, which is in the P&G Corporate Archives (as well as the Museum of Broadcast Communications). That one matches up with #9025, so there would not have been any pre-emptions. Of course, there is a slight chance the June 3/#9025 combination could be off, but either way, we are looking for 2 more pre-emptions in between June 3 and October 2. June 3, 1991 - June 11, 1991: 0 pre-emptions. Status: closed