Everything posted by Soaplovers
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Primetime Soaps
What I don't get is why there isn't more focus/pushback on Tyler Perry for things that deserve pushback. For example, he owns a studio/production company yet he does all of the writing, producing, and directing for his shows. My question to him is 'Why aren't you hiring people to write, produce, and direct your shows?'. It would greatly improve the quality of his product if he had up and coming people doing these shows for him.
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Primetime Soaps
Why does it matter if someone is living in a glass closet or not, it isn't anyone's business and perhaps Mr Perry wants his whole identity to rest on writing content that a first grader would mark up with a red marker. A few of his shows are on Tubi, and I had forgotten about his short-lived scripted show he did called Too Close to Home. Even Heather Locklear, who made a career out of playing *itches, struggled with some of the dialogue her character had to speak. I was bummed it got canceled because it left off with a pretty good cliffhanger.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
In regards to Reva and her four children, I think Jonathan was most like her in personality and how he reacted to conflict. I liked that the show originally had Marah being more like Josh, which was a nice contrast with Reva, until that overly animated/OTT Laura Bell Bundy briefly took over. Her Marah was a very amped up Reva without any of Reva's positive traits. Mckeon's Marah was probably the most Josh like in terms of personality especially with her Marah being judgmental like her father. Other than Bundy, the other actresses at least have the same essence/aura. Shayne changed based on whomever was playing the character. Dylan was so low key and chill... so unlike Billy or Reva. Perhaps he had a bit of his uncle Rusty or his aunt Trish in him. In regards to the Coopers: Frank was used pretty well/written to the actor's strengths from 1987/88 to about 95/96 until he was made a cop and basically put onto the backburner. I actually think Buzz coming back in 1993 began the loss of focus/function of Frank's character since he was the protective older brother and resentful son of the flaky Nadine. Early Lucy, they tried at first to make her fiesty like Harley and the actress couldn't play that so the writers focused more on being more naive/innocent. I know that her and A-M were heavily slanted as a couple from the time she came on until at least May/June 1994 (by the Bauer Barbeque 1994.. the two were broken up). I also think the writing team changing quite a bit also affected how Lucy was used and so they went more on chemistry vs actual story during the 2nd half of 1994 hence why her pairing with Matt was stopped because of his chemistry with Vanessa.
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BTG: February 2026 Discussion Thread
I like that Caroline interacted more with Tomas today, and the previous day when she interacted with Chelsea/Madison... let's get her out and about at Uptown. Maybe she could interact with Ashley/Naomi/Derek/Jacob.. etc. She is someone that knows where all the bones are buried so let's see if she can provide us with some clues for a treasure hunt for those buried bones.
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BTG: February 2026 Discussion Thread
People calling Nicole a whore confuse me especially when two of the biggest whores were on today (Bill & Vanessa). Vanessa caused her husband's death because of her sex addiction, which I hope is addressed down the road. Carlton has given creepy vibes since the very first episode he showed up on the show. Real Hayley = hilarious Joey doesn't have time for gossip nor finding out about Marcel's personal life.... but SPS doesn't understand that most people have common sense and are sane.
- Procter & Gamble launches "The Golden Pear Affair" micro-soap
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BTG: February 2026 Discussion Thread
I notice society nowadays seems to either shame those that do it with too many people and also shaming those that don't do it with too many people either. In regards to how Dani spoke to the young girl yesterday, it's on par with the way Dani speaks to everyone that she deems beneath her. Massively insecure individuals like Dani tend to talk down to those that they either find a threat or feel superior to. And I don't think Dani loves Bill... I think all the crying and crazy antics she displayed in the early episodes was a result of a bruised ego of a narcissist. And I think deep down she enjoys having Andre around because he's younger then her and also because it drives Bill crazy.
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BTG: February 2026 Discussion Thread
If that does in fact happen, just remember it's female run (i.e. female head-writing team & female EPs). With that being said, I had two friends (one male and one female) that both got married fairly young after focusing on school/getting their career started and didn't have much experience with dating nor having 'fun'. Once both of them divorced.. both of them played the field for awhile (i.e. making up for lost time)... eventually both of them calmed down and ended up settling/remarrying new individuals. So I view how Nicole is acting as being realistic and true to life. Hopefully your prediction isn't true.. but time will tell.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
I think the OG NY women just need another RHUGT season again since a little bit of the girls goes a long way. Maybe they can include another past housewife from NY in the mix like they did with Kristen the first time around. You would think the other women would have learned not to include Jill in their plans.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
I always wondered why Zimmer felt the need to ham it up on GL especially when I watched some of her acting on other soaps (The Doctors, OLTL circa 1983, & Santa Barbara) and she was a lot more toned down and natural with her acting. I'll even go as far as to say that I thought her role on Santa Barbara was probably her most atypical role she had during her soap career. She was playing a working class cop, had to be controlled/cold at work, was an attentive wife, and also could throw a line of shade on occasion. I think the difference was that her character on Santa Barbara was someone that you would see in your day to day life unlike someone like Reva... who would have been better placed in a mental hospital along with Annie Dutton than be allowed to roam the streets of society. There is this one YT channel that has all of Blake/Ross scenes from 1992 to the early 2000s.. and watching the change over from SS to LK was interesting to see with adult eyes. You saw SS expressing softness and vulnerability in her final scenes and you saw LK trying to play the Blake that SS left for her and struggling badly with it. Had SS remained as Blake for even another year, I doubt Ross/Blake would have lasted.. but it would have been interesting to see the fall out of Roger finding out and Blake living with Ed/Maureen as played by SS. What could have been.
- BTG: February 2026 Discussion Thread
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
I viewed Annie going crazy as lazy writing because the fans were split between Josh/Reva and Josh/Annie before Annie went crazy. A good head-writing team and a strong EP would have written to that instead of trying to yet again prop up an aging actress that refused to realize that it wasn't 1984 anymore. Annie already had ties to the show (The Bauers) so no need to ruin her character because of the toxicity of Josh/Reva.
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BTG: February 2026 Discussion Thread
Hello new script-writer . There was a bit more bite to the script today that I hadn't seen before, and this particular script-writer wrote on the revived All My Children (and also was a casting director for RHOD to boot). SPS vs Derek was hilarious today with poor Jan as middle-person. Jan should think about becoming a meditator. Hayley (Real Hayley) is funny, though I agree with her friend that they need to stop meeting in public places LOL
- Y&R: Old Articles
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Regardless, Reva was played out by 1990 and her driving off a bridge trying to get to her bud was a poetic and tragic ending to a character that was basically her own worst enemy. Bringing her back in 1995 was a huge mistake and proved that sometimes you can't go back. I also thought bringing Josh back in 1993 was another mistake other than a visit to tie up things with Harley and than going back to Italy.
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Knots Landing
1984-Karen is shot and Abby kidnapped by the Wolfbridge Group 1988-Jill’s torture of Val (Well-acted and during the writer strike) 1981-Sid’s car going over the cliff 1993-Abby moving back into Knots Landing (coming back full circle) 1985-Val seeing the twins alive 1982-Val walking in on Gary & Abby 1983-Gary left rotting in jail while Karen realizes Chip is the one who killed Ciji 1987-Abby hiding and burying Peter’s body (I would preferred if it ended with Abby and Olivia both finding Peter's body as the cliffhanger) 1980-Gary falls off the wagon and gets back on. 1986-Karen is kidnapped (I was hoping she would be kidnapped and never come back). 1989-Paige left standing in the rain while Mac gets skunked 1992-Meg goes missing and Pierce turns up alive in Paige’s care 1991-Brian Johnston disappears and then paintball madness/shenanigans 1990-Paige being stood up at her wedding, Jeff is Karen’s stalker The above are my ranking. .
- Guiding Light Discussion Thread
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Primetime Soaps
Sisters was a product of the the early to mid 90s and served as an appeal to Boomer women of that era (who were in their 30s and 40s) so there was an interesting balance of whimsy and dark subject matters. My mom and all of her girlfriends loved the show.. and she even got my dad to watch the show (he had a crush on Sela Ward and my mom approved of it saying he had good taste). From doing my rewatch, I think that season 2 and 3 strike a perfectly good balance between the darker subject matters and the whimsical/comedic element. Season 4 still had some light and whimsy in it, but it was scaled back in favor of the more intense soapy storylines. Unpopular opinion, but Georgie's breakdown over this season made perfect sense and was in character. The 'attempted suicide episode' in the middle of season 4 was probably as dark as the show should have gotten, and we should have gotten future episodes where Georgie starts to get better with some set backs (which the show did with her character till the end of the season). There was one season 4 episode that I was thought was charming with Teddy playing detective with she and Falconer being a 90s Nick and Nora Charles. The end of season 4 did seem to provide some light and hope in the show with Trevor coming home and promising to get help and do better, Georgie starting to get better, Teddy ready to marry Falconer, Frankie enjoying being a small business owner, and Alex and Big Al being a unique odd coupling that worked. Season 5 went off the rails without any of the warmth and whimsy of the first 4 seasons. It was as though the show ran out of story and just made the women do outlandish things that weren't connected to reality. The series finale really redeems the show to me and brings back the concept of Christmas being the uniting element for the sisters.
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BTG: February 2026 Discussion Thread
Naomi is an attorney for the underdog , and most of the time they tend to be at the police station more often than an office.. so Naomi not having an office isn't a big deal to me. It would make more sense to have redressed a set for Vanessa's office where Joey could come to discuss visit and also have it be a front for her 'escort business'. Although having Vanessa's house shown with both of her children not liking Joey being the house and seeing how close they are to 'Aunt Jan' would have been interesting to see.
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BTG: February 2026 Discussion Thread
The character write-up on Grayson did hint that he was raised by a single parent so perhaps in order to support the parent (possibly medical related), he has to work for the Impaler. I also wonder if Kial is also involved in the ring since I believe it was mentioned he was a widow and perhaps he lost his spouse due to something that could have been prevented. Had a female expressed the same concerns about Grayson due to her instincts, she'd most likely be listened to and believe.. but because it's Derek (a man).. he won't be listened to. Although I think his instincts about Grayson are right, I think the true backstory for Grayson isn't sinister and probably is something to do with his single mother that raised him. SPS is the reason why restraining orders are a thing. I wish the show would Dani like this all the time instead of on occasion. She wasn't too over the top, she acted like a rational individual and was even respectful about Eva when talking to Izaiah. Perhaps if she detoxed from Bill completely, she'd become a decent human being (although she has an addictive personality so she'll switch to a new addiction like alcohol, sex, etc) I'll say it again, but I think Shanice is the best friend Derek has right now.. way better than Pick me Jacob. Lastly, I don't get the Chelsea/Madison relationship... it reads like a bad YA novel. MVJ and co... please read Emily Henry so you can actually craft a solid 20 something relationship between two individuals.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
I do know that the head-writer used to have approve casting, and that sometimes the head-writer and the casting director don't see eye to eye. Betty Rea and others had to convince Pam Long to go with Kim Zimmer as Reva for instance. So I bet if Marland was dead-set on Elliott, no one that Betty Rea saw and bought to him would have convinced him to change his mind so I can believe that JFP also was someone that when she was dead set on someone, nothing could deter her (i.e. Crampton as Mindy, Walker as Tangie, etc).
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
I think had Ann Hamilton been cast after Krista instead of after Simms, her Mindy wouldn't have been so jarring. Since Hamilton couldn't be sensual/sexy like Simms was (but very few could be), she seemed to try to portray Mindy as a 90s version of Annie Oakley.. and it just seemed to not land. Although when Eve started to terrorize and gaslight her, I thought Hamilton did well with that and how she responded to the threats and taunts lodged at her. I also give a bit of credit that the writers remembered that Mindy was friends with Harley and Mallet during that time since by the time Crampton had taken over as Mindy.. no mention had been made that she had been friends with Harley or Mallet. The show only seemed to remember some connections Mindy had depending on which actress was playing her. When Simms was playing Mindy, I don't recall any mention of her and Frank dating was ever bought up but anytime Krista was playing Mindy.. mention was made of Frank/Mindy formerly dating (and I have to say I wouldn't have been opposed to having Frank/Mindy being end game at the end of the show instead of Rick/Mindy or Blake/Frank).
- Y&R: multisoap actor returns after 10 years for an arc
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BTG: February 2026 Discussion Thread
Jan understands where Leslie/SPS is coming from because she was probably left to raise Ashley as a single mom. @ranger1rg I would agree with you about Shanice jumping to conclusions had she not overheard Nicole mentioning getting roses from Ted back in the day or not seen Ted acting like a jealous spurned lover when it came to Nicole earlier that evening.
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BTG: February 2026 Discussion Thread
So with Joey getting a new set, it looks as though he'll be on the canvas for awhile longer. I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop in regards to Vanessa and why she's been so gaga over Joey. Based on Jan's comments, I guess the show has officially confirmed that Joey isn't Ashley father. Mona/Randy... hmmm.. interesting interaction and I'm wondering if it was a one time interaction or if the show might be testing them out. Anita marrying into the Duprees is a very important fact that I'm glad the writers haven't forgotten. It also explains why she kind of has a soft spot for Eva because she also started out outside the gates. Shanice/Ted - Trouble in paradise Kial/Nicole - I like the interplay between them.