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Mary’s tag line is ICONIC! Those are overall a good bunch of tag lines. As for the RHOA delay, I’m wondering if that’s due to their constant pass the peach. Remember Tammy was a full time HW with Kim Fields and due to that Miami trip she got cut. We know that things have been shifting with this big cast so I wonder if they’re changing stuff around.

People didn’t say friend so I’m wondering if she might be able to snag a diamond in the end. I just hate that Kathy is joining at a time Kim isn’t on. Based on what we know, this is the most boring time in the past 10 years they could’ve added her. Imagine Kathy in seasons 2-3 or season 5! That would’ve been New Jersey levels of fire. It seems like Kathy and Kyle are getting along fine now so we will see what she brings. I just hope we get some La Toya Jackson sightings. Kathy and La Toya had excellent chemistry on Life with La Toya. The one thing I do love about the upcoming season of Beverly Hills is that it looks like it won’t all be spoiled before we see it. The newbie isn’t directly in the spotlight which I think will give her that Sutton allure where we have to wait and see. I don’t want to know everything beforehand which is draining by the time the show airs. This is another reason New York always work. We never know what they have going on and we don’t need to!

@Taoboi I hope this ATL trailer drops ASAP. We know bits here and there but I’m still confused about the main focus because we don’t know the cast. So far on both trips you have the core four plus Marlo, Tanya (well only first trip for her), Shamea, Faylynn and Latoya. With 9 women I'm curious who has peaches, who is an official friend and who is just a guest. I want that cast photo more than I do a trailer lol.

I don’t know if anybody still follows Cheshire, but Dawn has been arrested for racially harassing two people and possession of cocaine! Couldn’t happen to a nastier person! Here is Ampika talking about how she quit bc of Dawn’s racist attacks: Article on the arrest: https://www.ok.co.uk/celebrity-news/dawn-ward-court-charged-breaking-22909409

Eboni also posted a pictures of the cast on her story and included Heather as a cast member. It’s looking more and more likely that she is back.

I wonder who tested positive! Eboni mentioned she did have Covid a few months ago. Of course everybody is going to think it’s Ramona lol. If it isn’t Ramona, you know she is going to go after whoever did get it since everybody accused her of being irresponsible. Glad they are safe though! So far the only show we know of where nobody tested positive is ATL which is ironic considering that city hasn’t shut down at all. Jennifer on RHONJ, Shannon on OC and now a mystery girl on RHONY. If you want, you could also include Dawn from Cheshire, but they filmed around her and didn’t shut down filming.

Heather always felt like a leader who could keep the group together. Whereas Carole filled the Greek chorus voice that we lost with Bethenny, Heather was the legit business woman who had money and could keep Ramona in line. I could see her benefitting then in that regard this upcoming season. I also see her working well with Leah and Eboni.

If RHONY returns with Eboni as a new housewife AND Holla Heather with an apple I will never complain about New York again! Now I know it’s probably just some guest slots, but seeing her there at the beginning of filming has me hopeful.

I just finished part one of RHOD’s season 4 reunion and this is one of my favorite seasons of housewives! I think the reason I enjoy the Kary/Leanne feud so much is because they simply don’t like each other. Nobody is trying to destroy someone’s family and it isn’t as dark (until Thailand) as most recent housewives feud. I *love* a random feud like this. Kandi/Nene, Heather/Ramona, Bethenny/Kelly and Gizelle/Monique are other examples where they just don’t like each other, but it isn’t super heavy and dark. Overall this season I feel like everybody earned their paycheck and they mostly kept a good balance of fun and drama. Now Thailand? Lord! The hardest thing about this is that interviews are filmed months later and even before she said the racist statements, she’s in her talking heads *still* making comments like that. How could she still not understand that wasn’t okay? And she truly doesn’t seem sorry. She doubles down and makes excuses so much that it is cringeworthy! With that said, I did enjoy what she brought to the season overall, but she did need to go.

I just finished Leanne’s wedding on RHOD and I felt like watching Sheila Carter finally find happiness lol. Also side note: Tiffany appeared via flashback asking Rich to marry Leanne and of course she’s front row as one of her closest friends. I wonder why they dumped her. I thought she was great in season one. In general, the cast was perfect I thought. I get adding people, but they didn’t need to dump anybody. I loved seeing some of Leanne’s family after hearing her speak of them so much. It was especially dramatic and soapy wondering if he’d mother would show up considering their relationship. This was a total fairy tale soap villainess wedding! It’s crazy how much of a soap RHOD truly is. I find it so iconic that she did a five hour break between the wedding and reception and went to eat at SONIC knowing damn well there was no food at this reception! One thing I look forward to seeing in season five is Katy’s relationship with her husband. He seems perfectly reasonable and she’s so dismissive of him. For someone dependent on her husband for money that seems crazy! I wonder if they’ll still be fighting because they seem headed for divorce.

@chrisml Oh I absolutely think Tamra/Vicki being gone is why the ratings are down. No I don’t think Bravo was wrong to get rid of them, but you can’t get rid of your stars and not properly replace them. Right now the cast is full of D list housewives who they can’t really use to promote the show.

@Cat Those ratings are similar to like RHOP and higher than Dallas, but for OC it’s bad. Those shows are a lot less expensive as well. Typically OC averages around 1.5 million per episode and often is neck and neck with Dallas. If they keep dropping it won’t be good for them, especially as an aging and expensive franchise. OC was always that show that despite the heavy salaries of some cast members, they didn’t have to heavily promote it and it still did really well in the ratings. It was like a reliable hit for Bravo.

I came here to talk Dallas, but just wanted to let y’all know RHOC’s ratings are sinking like a stone! Will be interesting to see if they rebound. It’s down 400,000 total viewers and .20 in the demo. Emily has also confirmed only 13-14 episodes max and Shannon said she barely filmed anything so hopefully this season can pass pretty quick and they can focus on a revamp. Now onto what I came here for, I just finished episode 7 of RHOD and I regret waiting so long to watch! I know many don’t seem to like Kary, but I’m totally in love with her. Maybe I’m enjoying this season more because I’ve always disliked Leanne and everybody is so over her. I actually think Kary is completely in the right in their feud. She gave Leanne a chance as first, but after her constant disrespect in Dallas it seems she gave up on her. I like that compared to the other ladies letting Leanne gaslight them since season one. I also feel like this season is moving fast. There is so much going on and so many little conflicts that keep it going. The Jabot story with the company being broke, Kary vs Leanne, D’Andra vs Leanne, Kameron vs Brandi/Stephanie. I also don’t miss Cary’s boring ass who tried her hardest to stay relevant last season. This season has me completely pumped for season 5! I feel the best of the cast is returning and with two newbies (potentially 3 depending on how much they feature the black woman who filmed) it’ll give them enough of a revamp that they have potential to soar.

...So Katie was right and Bravo blacklisted her and cut her from the reunion for nothing? Hmmm...I find it funny that footage didn’t surface before the reunion and now we see it was on the show!

I finally finished my year long journey watching season 3 of Dallas and in the end I found it horrible. I know many think it was good, but the drama was so petty and it just felt like groundhogs day for me. Now 3 episodes into season 4 and this is the show I loved the first two seasons! I think the cast shakeup by swapping Katy’s has helped the show. The new Kary is rich and shallow which I love and I’m enjoying seeing a different perspective since she is Mexican. In general the relationships seem strong so far. I know things get dark, but this has me more excited for season 5 than I had been.

@Darn yes I meant Brenda Dickson! My bad! And I do agree with you. In general unless it’s a special event I prefer not to have flashbacks at all, but I hate when they do recreated flashbacks which net look like the time period (and often change history) or when hey avoid major flashbacks because of an actor change.

Don’t click the link if you care about spoilers, but this weeks promo includes a clip with Deborah Adair as Jill. This led me to wonder, how do y’all feel about flashbacks with previous actors in the role? My feeling is that it’s fine and I love when soaps do it. For example, Y&R did an entire story with newly created flashbacks for the Abbott’s. How is that any different than showing real flashbacks with actors who played the roles? These are soaps. We know recasts happen often. I’d much prefer showing real flashbacks. When Y&R was bringing Cane on I remember they did a flashback montage of Jill/Kay, but they cut Jill out because the clips were Jess Walton. It led to confusion with viewers thinking the blurred out woman was a mystery character joining the show.

This is really poorly done and seeing the intro reminds me how bad this cast is...

Say Something was okay, but Magic is pure Kylie. The video is slinky and sexy and fits the theme perfectly! I also love the song! I’m getting excited for this album. I know the tour is going to be amazing whenever that happens.

Looks like they got caught up in a Deniss/Luann Pirate type of situation lol! Tanya is currently in Canada quarantining so I’m wondering if she just ain’t coming back since she’s just a friend and obviously doesn’t want this shown. She also is going to miss Cynthia’s wedding now.

Damn, it looks like Garcelle is pretty devastated about Teddi leaving LOL!

@Cheap21 It’s funny you posted that because I have noticed the Married to Medicine women have been supportive of Monique. These are DOCTORS with real careers and reputations to protect, but they still are themselves on tv which I appreciate. As we know, Mariah and Toya is probably the most iconic Real Housewives right. A true brawl. Can you imagine had that happened on this show? Lawd! They dealt with it and moved forward because shyt happens! I hate that Gizelle, Wendy and Robyn are trying to make it a race issue and acting like Monique shouldn’t be forgiven.

RHONY Hive: The article includes an interview with Eboni so this is officialI LOVE Eboni! She’s a lawyer and journalist who for years worked on Fox News. She’s a very outspoken democrat. She current works for Revolt Tv. She should be on The View, but this I will take. She’s very classy and smart and very outspoken. The ladies will definitely have a time with her! Here’s an interview with her, then one of many clips of her eviscerating these idiots on Fox News, which she left after death threats after Charlottesville

In his video about Nene’s exit, Funky Dineva mentioned talking to Quad who was unsure about taking Bravo’s offer to be a friend this season. He explained to her that the money is better than she’s going to magically get elsewhere and it’s better not to burn bridges. It looks like she will appear in that capacity but I must say I was excited for a completely Quad free season lol. Talk about someone who stayed YEARS longer than they should have! I must say, I’m more excited for Married to Medicine than I am for RHOA. I’ll watch both, but I literally cannot wait to see their cast photo and trailer.

@Taoboi Tamra is open to next season but won’t appear this season. And yes, per the description from Bravo, Braunwyn comes under fire for supporting Black Lived Matter and Covid safety. That is just too dark for me. I can’t see it being entertaining. Now the Potomac mid season trailer is fantastic! These ladies get better each year and always deliver. I say that each year and it remains true. It’s an unbelievable streak for a Housewives show and they’ve largely done it with minimal cast changes. Also from the next episode clip, it highlights why I hate Gizelle. To me, Gizelle and Robyn are the villains, not Candiace or Monique. I feel like they both fell into Gizelle and Robyn’s trap to make them fall out. Gizelle has been jealous of Monique from day one and she is gleeful that she can now throw her under the bus. To say she and Jamal have a reputation to uphold?! They are a joke! Now with a Beverly Hills, I’m feeling like the Erika rumors may be true. Let’s be real: In a Covid world you can’t do a fake storyline of going on a tour of gay clubs. Her son won’t film with her, her husband will barely film with her and she isn’t really friends with anybody in the cast. I can see her turning down the Friend offer due to pride. I hope whatever cast additions they make are as strong as Sutton and a Garcelle were. They have a gift coming into the new year. Kyle, Rinna, Sutton, Garcelle are a strong bunch to rebuild around if done correctly. My only request is that one newbie is Garcelle’s friend. She’s said repeatedly she wants Sheree, Will Smith’s ex to join and I feel she’d be perfect. Plus I hate Garcelle having to be the only black person so having another black woman would make her feel less like an outsider.