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He’s been more bold in these at home episodes and he makes it very obvious who he likes and doesn’t like. Both times Sutton was on her gushed so much about her and both times made sure to mention she was only a Friend due to issues with her ex and he even asked advice from Garcelle on how to get her ex on board for next season. They usually don’t admit when people are coming back. Similarly when Ramona was on a couple weeks ago he ate her up lol. I think Ramona could be in some danger. Kyle will be safe because she’s the last OG, but Teddi I think is going to be on her way out.

Personally I think Teddi is lying about the attacks. Every thing she posts on twitter gets ratioed and she knows that and purposely posts things to get a response. I’m sure some people said bad things (every celeb gets that), but I highly doubt everybody was talking about her family. I think she’s using it for sympathy and to maintain her diamond. Teddi and Kyle were on WWHL and Andy let both of them have it. He called Kyle out on her previous comments about Brandi being a liar, called Teddi out on her lies last season, accused them of being bi-phobic. It was a bad night and you could tell Andy wasn’t feeling them. Contrast that with the love fest for Garcelle and Sutton the previous week and him tweeting how their episode was the highest rated in 3 years. I think Kyle and Teddi are simply doing damage control because they aren’t well liked right now. I’m really curious how a season 11 will look if Denise, Garcelle and Sutton return as fan faves. Will Kyle and others play nice?

I wanna say Brenda only appeared in two episodes and she was the only Jill we saw other than Jess. I was surprised how many episodes they found from the 80s that just so happened to omit Jill. My favorites were the 1981 episode, the second episode and in general the heavy focus on the Barber-Winters family throughout the episodes. I also loved seeing them highlight Christine and Phyllis’ feud via the honeymoon and also the scenes with Phyllis/Cricket in the 2003 episode where Danny returned and Victor visited his dad. That was a powerful episode in general, but these episodes highlighted what a valuable character Cricket is and how much the show needs her in a leading role. Nobody has chemistry with Michelle Stafford like Lauralee Bell. They should be treated like the super couple they are, always in each other’s orbits like a Kay/Jill or Dorian/Viki.

Beverly Hills is getting tiring. The Brandi aspect of the Denise drama isn’t fun for me. I don’t care about the affair or focus on it. Also, as Denise said, when is enough enough? They keep saying she’s running away or shutting stuff down, but they’ve talked about Denise to death! What more is there to say?! Then next weeks promo looked terrible with Teddi’s baby shower, Brandi back and no sign of Garcelle and Denise. I’m ready for the reunion so we can move on.

Tuesdays episode was held over from before the shut down. Wednesday is the first truly new episode since they returned.

Its nice to see Denise holding Rinna accountable! Hell, let’s not forget she also defended Rinna against Kim which may be part of why Brandi is doing this to her, since she’s besties with Kim. It’s nice to see Denise not just giving up.

I love how nobody doubts Gizelle did this. She’s been so jealous of Monique from day one and unfortunately Monique fell for her trap hence the fight with Candiace. I wonder what this means specifically for Candiace and Monique. Considering they fought Candiace doesn’t HAVE to be revealing this, but she is. Really they both were victims here because it looks like they had patched things up and then this stuff came up. All I know is that the upcoming reunion for Potomac is about put every reunion to shame. This is going to be insane!

Ive never seen any of AW in the 90s so I was wondering if y’all could explain why they brought him back as a new character? Did they kill off Sam Fowler? It just seems weird that he played that role for 3 years and they brought him on as someone new.

Hopefully that is temporary. It’s a shame she’s even on staff, let alone a potential HW. She’s always written the worst scripts. She is more of an ABC writer. If anything, with Susan Dansby returning and the changes in media, they should be making a statement by making HER a co-HW. I loved the work she did on Ambitions with Jamey and Michele Val Jean, and the things she’d tweet about pitching made sense and added a lot to the show. She would be a fresh voice for the show.

@Markjeh I loved Jade too! Elena Goode I think was the first Jade. The only problem I had was not doing more with her. She was great! Also I know it’s unpopular, but I loved Hunt Block as Craig. He was my original Craig and why I started watching because I liked him on Knots Landing. When I saw her was on ATWT I started watching. Previously I only watched Y&R. I do love Scott Bryce though and was so disappointed with his return and firing. I’m glad Dansby mentioned how poor the writing was for his return.

I will say, I loved Jean Passanante as HW after Hogan left. I thought the show was pretty good. Now her GH? AMC? No ma’am. I will not defend that, but I do think she did fine at ATWT. I also was happy they mentioned that it was Goutman who stopped them from bringing people back. We all knew that was the case. Hell, he wouldn’t even allow Martha Byrne to come back for one damn episode. Overall I did enjoy this episode. I was especially happy to hear from Charlotte Gibson who I haven’t heard from before. Both she and Susan Dansby are rare for black writers in soaps so I’d love to hear just from them on how they broke through. We know it isn’t easy.

My bad! Idk how I missed that when I read this thread religiously lol! Honestly seeing Jersey I may have just skimmed over it because I have such little interest in New Jersey!

Real Housewives of Cheshire is getting a spin off! Real Housewives of Jersey starts filming next week: https://www.itv.com/news/channel/2020-08-03/jersey-sees-reality-tv-show-the-real-housewives-arrive-on-its-shores Link says it premieres this year so hopefully it’s decent and helps with our winter HWs drought. I have no knowledge of the location so I just have to hope they picked some place fabulous.

Giselle’s clothes look like an early 2000’s Destiny’s Child wannabe.

Gizelle is one of the most beautiful women to appear on ANY Real Housewives series, but her style is hideous. I get your first season, but she still looks a fool all these years later. I wasn’t surprised to see how bad her house looked considering. I thought it was a beautiful and unique property, but she cheapens it with her design aesthetic.

@Cheap21 Yep! Next week they’re airing episode 2 again lol. I don’t get it either.

I feel like Potomac ladies probably don’t get paid much of anything, but this show is so damn good! This is how you do an ensemble! Each season has different dynamics and focuses and I don’t feel like one person ever takes too much of the responsibility for carrying the season. They always deliver and it feels effortless! Monique has become my favorite. There is just something so likable about her for me. I’ve always found her beautiful and I love her hair and style choices and SHADE. The budding friendship with Gizelle made me sad because I know how that heifer is! Sure enough, she’s sowing the tension in her relationship with Candiace! The Grande Dame is as fabulous as ever. Ashley is oversharing. Candiace is whining. Gizelle is being messy. Robyn is still there. It just felt so good to be back in Potomac! Wendy seems like she’ll be a great addition as well! Also I hate that they have us episode 2 because now I cannot wait for episode 3 and we have to wait two weeks! You already know this season is going to be a page turner. In other news, RHONY wraps the day after RHOBH with 20 regular episodes. I love how they filmed less and with less women and still gave us 20 episodes and Beverly Hills is giving us 16 episodes lol. I hope they launch Salt Lake in October. It’s going to be sad to only have Potomac after the reunions are over in September.

No idea why, but they’ll be live streaming episode two tomorrow as a preview. I still haven’t watched the premiere yet but I’m going to get on it now. I know the Potomac ladies always deliver! I hope the fans deliver good ratings to them.

Maria Arena Bell was the queen of that. It was sad bc she knew the history so well and did bring back so many wonderful characters, but she’d put them into stories that were just insane or waste them. Like you said, Patty had potential to be an interesting long term character but they went too far. I feel the same for Adam. I will never like that character based on how much story he burned through with the first two actors. Justin Hartley and Mark Gorssman are good actors, but the history is too toxic for me to care about him. The biggest disappointment for me though had to be Olivia’s non story, even when Malcolm was recast and Nina. Sticking Nina with Paul was a bizarre choice given her friendship with Christine (which they neglected) and their severe lack of chemistry. I liked that both of her sons were back and Tricia Cast was giving POWERHOUSE performances but the material wasn’t to her level. It never made sense not to put her in Restless Style or use her writing career.

I think the difference is that with the Abbott’s you didn’t have a breakout like Lorie to overshadow everybody. Each character worked and when they recast Ashley it was seamless. Then with Peter Bergman a year later it was well received so it was easy to keep them going. With the Williams, Paul was the breakout star of that family so I think with him around they were okay with that. I do think it would’ve benefited him in the 90s to have another sibling around though.

@chrisml Oh I agree with you about Nene lol. She created most of the problems for herself, but I do think Bravo messed up going back and forth with her lawyers therefore creating a case for her. IMO, Nene could’ve slid by the past two seasons well liked by the cast and audience and collected her huge check. The fights she picked were just so petty and she turned everybody against her. If I was Nene I wouldn’t even entertain these girls like that. Just be fun and keep it moving. She had an easy job and messed it up by being difficult.

Seeing Nene’s Instagram live video I will say I understood her side more than I did before. Basically, it seems like Bravo offered Nene a pay cut similar to what they did to Vicki and Tamra. Tamara Tattles has it at $1 million for 8 episodes which will either be to wrap up her story or extended to a full season depending on how it goes. Nene wants a contract for a full season with a guarantee she’s paid regardless of if they edit her out of episodes. Where production messed up is in what they said to her lawyers in negotiations about why they won’t go for her demands. They said they dislike her calling herself “Queen,” “HBIC” and “The One.” She counters that by saying Porsha has worn a crown to two reunions and she wonders if she’s getting similar critiques. Then they bring up the closet incident, but Nene’s team has countered that with Teresa pushing Andy and Kim and Kroy attacking the camera men in season 5. Lastly they are upset she left the reunion early which she counters with Kim quitting mid season and LVP skipping a reunion and half season of a show yet LVP has Vanderpump Rules and the Dogs spin-off and Kim got a long running spin off which started at $1 million a year. They’re offering Nene $100,000 for a development contract. Based on all this I do see her point. They should’ve given her a take it or leave it deal instead of going back and forth with these specifics since we know things aren’t uniform across the board. I feel like if her legal team is good at the very least they may have to settle out of court.

Slightly off topic, but Kathy Hilton’s husband is being implicated in some of the Ghislaine documents released tonight. Now that I think about it, this isn’t off topic. Knowing how these ladies love to hit below the belt, I can’t imagine how Kyle would react if this comes up next season...

That’s a shame! It’s crazy she lasted so long if they could never find use for her. It seems like she’d be ripe to really invest in a recast and transform the role. Another question for people who watched at the time, I know when the Brooks sisters returned in 1984, the actress who played Chris had aged a lot and also gained a lot of weight. I know her recast was a slim brunette (which threw me off). Did she gain that weight while in the role? Did that have anything to do with her leaving the show or did she leave on her own accord? I only ask because I know soaps have a history of being difficult if women gain weight. Especially with Snapper being such a valuable character to them I could see that being an issue.

Before I get to Beverly Hills, I wanted to speak on ATL. I know we wonder every season, but I think this might be the year Marlo snags a peach. Currently Marlo, Kenya, Kandi and Cynthia have been filming for about two weeks. Porsha is about to join them and then Drew and Latoya will start filming. Tanya made it seem like she’d just be a guest. Based on numbers I wonder if Marlo could slide through if Latoya or Drew don’t give what they want in terms of content. Now onto RHOBH, I thought this was a lot sadder than I expected. We’ve heard about it, but in execution it came off horribly. Garcelle and Denise were so excited and the girls were salivating to have an issue. They couldn’t WAIT to destroy Denise at dinner. By contrast, Sutton and Garcelle had a small issue, Garcelle apologized and now they’ve become good friends. I loved that Dorit and Sutton spoke up for Denise. Teddi came off like a total [!@#$%^&*]. Your issue is that Denise was allegedly talking [!@#$%^&*]. The build up to something “soooo bad” honestly felt homophobic and the way they framed it was to make it worse than it was IMO. That was done for maximum impact. And to do it when y’all are in another country and the girl has no support system? I’m very curious how the rest of the episodes will unfold. I presume that the trip will be around 3 episodes and they’ll have a couple episodes back in BH to wrap up. I wonder how much we will see Denise going forward.