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Rumor has it Shed Media has just taken over production of RHOSL so they don't have any episodes completed. RHOP was simply delayed to stretch and not due to editing issues. With Beverly Hills and New York, even before they premiered Andy said they were behind on post-production so I really don't think it's a plot. They've centered the season on the Denise story and Kyle and Rinna already look terrible. They aren't going to throw out a messy story regardless of how anybody looks. And we know Kyle and Rinna are teflon and will be invited back no matter what they do. It doesn't help that the cast protects them, especially Rinna and won't hold them accountable.

This is pretty much what Andy said. We know for a fact Potomac was pushed back to spread out new content. As long as resumed filming goes well for ATL, Dallas, NJ and OC, at least one should be ready by the beginning of the year which is when they’d need another HW show. Andy said OC filmed halfway before Covid-19 so that could be the first one out. Also this is all dependent on the shows resuming filming and not having to stop again. NY and BH will probably take the longest to film again. In other news, Nene’s exit from RHOA is supposed to be announced and confirmed today. We will see if that’s true.

Bravo and Nene both confirm she isn’t fired. What this tells me is that she was offered a pay cut or friend contract and hasn’t accepted it, hence “still negotiating.” Theyre pulling a Vicki on her.

Twitter also blowing up that Kenya is out. I can believe Nene out, but not Kenya too. Kenya has unfollowed Andy Cohen on social media. I still dont know that I can believe this. I WANT Nene and Kenya to leave, but would they carry on with Kandi, Cynthia, Marlo, Tanya and Porsha? The new wife must be amazing if they’d consider this. I’ve been wanting a reboot and new perspective so I’m keeping an open mind.

Tamars Tattles said Marlo will *never* have a peach but she’s one of the higher paid HWs. I just consider her a wife regardless. With Nene, I think that’s related to the show bc of the timing and she is also retweeting people who say they won’t watch without her. Either she got demoted, a pay cut or didn’t get something she was asking for. What? Idk. She better take whatever is offered though because she’s not the greatest actress to begin with and with Covid her options will be limited in terms of acting and hosting.

Tamara Tattles said that Nene, Kenya, Porsha, Kandi and Marlo got the first round of contracts meaning they are priority. Kenya got a huge raise but everybody got some kind of raise. Tanya and Cynthia are still on the bubble, but Likely will at least get friend contracts. There will be one new housewife.

Although I do think she needed to leave RHOA, I still maintain she’d be a valuable asset to RHOD. I still can’t believe Bravo fumbled the bag so much. They had Claudia Jordan and Eva who very likely will move to Dallas for work and neither made the cut. I wonder if they’ll give a last minute reprieve to the black woman who was almost made the cut for the upcoming season, in light of the diversity issues.

Porsha posted that the cast got their pick up letters today lol. So basically Eva was fired. If she had truly quit she would’ve announced if sooner, but instead she waited until she knew she wasn’t coming back.

Thank you! I feel the exact same way. I do not understand the desire to pressure people into speaking out. I’m a drag queen and on my Facebook there are so many people who keep pressuring bars and promoters and other queens to speak out and I don’t understand why. Especially since I know personally how racist some of them are. I’d rather people do what they want so you know who truly is with you and not just saying what they need to say. To me, it’s more harmful when these racists lie and act like they care because when they do something racist they’ll just use that as cover.

I still want to know what exactly happened here. We know details about Nicollette’s issues with Marc Cherry, but I’ve never quite understood why they hate Teri Hatcher so much and who was in the wrong there.

He doesn’t look like what I’d expect from a Martin Peyton recast. Looks like they made the character younger.

@Cat Chicago is often listed as a city they’re looking at. I know when Salt Lake City was chosen that was one of many on the list. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is further along than we think in terms of casting. But I will say I grew to love Tinsley over the years and will miss her. I also loved her exit. I miss when HWs would organically leave mid season and also when we’d get new wives mid season. It felt more real. In retrospect they should’ve done the same for LVP last year. On the international front, I found a link to season one of Real Housewives of Johannesburg and the clips did NOT do this show justice. It is FASCINATING! I know only 2 wives continue to season 2 (which I’ve heard is even better) and I cannot fathom that because the cast is *so* good. The only odd one out is Lendy who is listed as a housewife, but has only appeared in like 3 of the 9 episodes I’ve seen. This show is like ATL on steroids in terms of the amount of friends in the cast and the light hearted shade and drama of those early seasons, but the ability to move forward and film. I also love seeing South Africa. They went on a trip to Botswana for one of the wives who was throwing a birthday party for her mom in her home village. It’s so interesting to see them go from these luxurious mansions to a village setting but still be respectful and enjoy themselves. One other thing that is interesting is that there is a VERY racist white woman in the cast who doesn’t see color and doesn’t believe racism exists. In America I feel she would’ve been beat down by several HWs by the point I’m at, but these ladies show incredible restraint. In the most recent episode they’d gone to a clothing store to get dresses for a wedding and one of the wives said she was going to get something custom made because they didn’t have anything that fit her style. The owner said they didn’t want to buy anything because they couldn’t afford it and the white girl said that once again “you people” have to make a big deal out of everything which caused a huge blow up. Whenever she wants to refer to the black women negatively it’s “you people” and then she acts offended when they call her out on it. If anybody wants a link DM me. This is definitely worth a watch.

@Fevuh It’s incorrect to say VR is the only one who spoke out. She’s the most vocal, but others have tried and been punished. Kristoff St John was suspended for 3 months in 2010 for speaking out and confirming her claims. I recall the same happening to Bryton. Maria Area Bell was also going to bring her back, but only if she wouldn’t speak on her issues with racial injustice. Instead of going with it, she revealed it and the return didn’t happen. Also, VR made a good point in an old podcast I just listened to. Let’s look at Tonya Lee Williams: She was also a big star for Y&R with tenure. At one point the writers just gave up on her. She begged in the soap press for story for years. When she guest starred on B&B she expressed hope it would be another chance for her. Even though she never said anything negatively she was still discarded like a piece of garbage. She didn’t even qualify for a final storyline, she just stopped appearing. So you can’t even argue that VR’s outspokenness is why she isn’t back. The black actors STILL on the show who are keeping their mouth shut are still having the same problems. Hell, Loren Lott knew nothing of this and she had similar issues! They couldn’t do her makeup, they couldn’t light her, she had to provide and do her hair haircare and she was never given a love interest, the ONLY actress in her age range who was never given a love interest. Change needs to happen because these issues are real.

They settled. And with Brad Bell, there were emails included in her lawsuit. She was definitely going to B&B it looked like from those emails. Same with DAYS. Marnie Siatta was fired as Casting Director by LML and Ed Scott brought her to DAYS. She specifically sought out VR but Sony removed her from the audition list. I don’t know how widespread the blacklist was though bc she did still keep working. I think it was mostly soaps and CBS/Viacom projects where she had issues.

This is coming from Arena which handles the Bravo shows in Australia. If this pans out, we won’t get another episode until July 8th! Explains why they showed the mid season trailer when their final episode aired, but this is very strange to randomly take a month off. Could editing really be that slow due to Covid-19 ? Are they trying to stretch it? Are they re-editing? It’s odd. Most likely this is a stretch tactic since Salt Lake likely won’t have a long season, but what a way to kill any momentum the show has going.

They did air Auckland and I still don’t understand how Melbourne’s 2nd and 3rd season aired in primetime with NO promotion, averaged around 500,000 viewers and yet they didn’t air the 4th season. M I was shocked they didn’t air Sydney right away considering they’d aired Melbourne and Toronto seems like it would’ve been easy to air. I never have seen that one though.

LVP has mentioned it but by doing the bare minimum so I don’t think she’s being prevented from responding. She was tetweeting things from 3 years ago to prove that she has one black employee. That’s embarrassing. Just like she’s called out cast members in the past. She could’ve easily rebuked their comments. It’s a bad look and the fact that we still have no statement from her is shameful.

When they’ve shared scenes together the chemistry is pretty off the charts and it’s glaring because they will literally pair Brooke with *anybody*. Considering how he looks, the only reason a shallow show like B&B wouldn’t give him an actual story has to be due to his race. Especially when it comes to the Steffy pairing which fans have been asking for for YEARS.

This has been a shock and very disappointing. Especially on light of them having to fire four cast members. She hasn’t said anything and should’ve been leading the charge considering the show has her name on it.

Speechless! Bravo actually held them accountable! Max and Brett are also out!

@Taoboi I hadn’t heard they were re-editing, but I wouldn’t be surprised. Denise has been so well received I can’t understand how they didn’t see this coming. As for the schedule, I don’t understand why they don’t just air strategic international shows for content. I just started Real Housewives of Johannesburg and while I doubt it would do big ratings, it would give them room to breathe and not have to rush the returning series. Also, Melbourne season 4 is on deck and that show already aired its first three seasons here.

These are old episodes with new commentary from the HWs. They aired a promo, it’s basically pop up videos of the ladies watching the episodes and commenting on them. I assume they filmed these when they filmed the confessionals at home. It seems like the entire lineup is on this hiatus so my guess is they’re just trying to stretch things as much as possible. Brandi is getting heat for this now that they’re calling out the Vanderpump Rules cast. I’m glad because I hated how Joyce was treated and I still maintain she should’ve stayed. I feel like they purposely sabotaged her (particularly with the tag line) since they knew she’d be feuding with their big star. At the very least I hope this puts an end to Brandi getting a diamond in the future.

This story of a British soap star speaking out in the UK has not only blown up On Twitter worldwide, but even Variety is covering it. I wish the black daytime soap actors would speak up while people are listening. I just was listening to an old Victoria Rowell podcast with Buzzworthy Radio and she mentioned how Kristoff had reached out to her asking for help because Bryton was airing once a month and he was only getting 2 episodes himself. She at this point was upset because she’d taken so much heat and nobody publicly defended her. Shortly before this interview, Kristoff did his own episode of the same podcast confirming what she was saying and was subsequently suspended for three months. Rowell then said she no longer heard from him after they threatened his job. Of course they did eventually reunion and do a film together, but listening to this stuff again with our current mindset made me so angry. I wanna know more about Tonya Lee Williams as well! At one point the host asked Rowell if she felt being outspoken was the reason she wouldn’t be asked back and she used Williams as an example. She said Tonya would come to work, keep her head down and get her work done with no complains. How did that work out for her? I remember her final years when they stopped writing for her she was constantly in the press basically begging for a story. I remember her guest appearance on B&B where they made Olivia and Justin cousins, she talked of playing up chemistry with Don Diamond in hopes they’d use her more. People often forget her, but to be a front burner character as long as she was and just disappear is very disrespectful. I also hated how when Maria Arena Bell did her comeback tour for so many former characters, the *only* one who came back and remained a day played was Olivia. Nina, Clint, Phillip and all the others at least had short term story. The only one who sat in the background when returning was Olivia. To know the stories *everybody* has and nobody knows. I wanna know what Karla Mosley and some of the B&B actors have to say. How does Lawrence St Victor feel being on B&B for almost 10 years with no love interest despite fans requesting him be paired with Brooke or Steffy? How did Christel feel when she was called to audition for her own role? How did Bryton feel winning an Emmy but appearing 15 times a year? The writers too. I *really* want someone to blow a lid on the Teflon and racist soap industry in the US. I feel everything will change or evolve *except* daytime soaps.

@Gray Bunny I hope im not proven wrong when the episodes air, but from the various trailers I get the feeling that Garcelle and Denise will acknowledge the role Rinna often plays in these types of drama. I truly don’t understand how she’s gotten a pass so long. I don’t MIND shyt stirring, but it is odd how she always does it but nobody acknowledges it. I hope they hold her feet to the fire!

I generally am very hard on child actors because they are often terrible, but Kent was great and that scene was stunning! That’s what I mean. How could the network look at what they brought and just let it go? It’s really crazy.