[YRBB]

Once more, a place for a general discussion of Y&R. I guess you can also call this the "Haters" thread, August Edition.

This post has been edited by YRBB: 01 August 2009 - 03:38 AM

[Sylph]

How many more stories will this show recycle? Yet another Who is Kay's daughter? story, yet another identity revelation... Nauseating.

[YRBB]

Y&RWorldTurner, on 03 August 2009 - 04:42 PM, said:

I initially thought he improved the production and look of the show, well, not anymore.

I guess we saw an improvement due to the really low production standards Y&R had before Rauch joined... but I won't blame it all on that because the production has now started to slide backwards.

[Y&RWorldTurner]

Sylph, on 04 August 2009 - 09:20 AM, said:

How many more stories will this show recycle? Yet another Who is Kay's daughter? story, yet another identity revelation... Nauseating.

Exactly.

YRBB, on 04 August 2009 - 10:45 AM, said:

I guess we saw an improvement due to the really low production standards Y&R had before Rauch joined... but I won't blame it all on that because the production has now started to slide backwards.

I guess the recent budget cuts had a lot to do with it too. But if GH can pop more in HD, Y&R should be able to as well.

[MarkH]

Sylph, on 04 August 2009 - 09:20 AM, said:

How many more stories will this show recycle? Yet another Who is Kay's daughter? story, yet another identity revelation... Nauseating.

I completely agree. With this damaged show, now is not the time to pursue this.

Y&RWorldTurner, on 04 August 2009 - 04:29 PM, said:

I guess the recent budget cuts had a lot to do with it too. But if GH can pop more in HD, Y&R should be able to as well.

Well, I don't see that. I have been watching GH more, although I guess I'm not getting the best sample--Soapnet and ABC-online. It's not had the chance to sign on my Samsung. Maybe I need to try that once.

I still like how Y&R looks. The problem now is that the P&G shows and B&B have set the template for what external location shoots can look like. (I even like recent OLTL and AMC remotes). So all that "fake outdoors" stuff is kind of distracting to me. There is no way, though, that Y&R can reasonably simulate Wisconsin near LA. LA exteriors work wonderfully for B&B, but I think Y&R is stuck indoors. That limits it.

I guess GH isn't going outdoors much either, eh? Yesterday, when I watched (episode was set at night) everything still struck me as so dark.

[Y&RWorldTurner]

MarkH, on 04 August 2009 - 04:46 PM, said:

I completely agree. With this damaged show, now is not the time to pursue this.

Especially after all the DNA mess we've had to witness this past year.

I'm starting to beleive, like death, victimization of women, DNA reversals/additions are another one trick pony of this writing regime. And you know what shows more of their incompetence? They don't even space this stories apart lonf enough for the viewers not to see how repetitive they are.

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Well, I don't see that. I have been watching GH more, although I guess I'm not getting the best sample--Soapnet and ABC-online. It's not had the chance to sign on my Samsung. Maybe I need to try that once.

Yes, pelase try it once and judge the picture quality of GH in HD when compared to Y&R in HD. The colours and background on GH pop and there's so much depth, whereas Y&R is starting to look very bland and cheap, and all the colours are just there, nothing noticeable. GH also seems to be taking advantage of its look in HD, while Y&R doesn't care anymore.

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I still like how Y&R looks. The problem now is that the P&G shows and B&B have set the template for what external location shoots can look like. (I even like recent OLTL and AMC remotes). So all that "fake outdoors" stuff is kind of distracting to me. There is no way, though, that Y&R can reasonably simulate Wisconsin near LA. LA exteriors work wonderfully for B&B, but I think Y&R is stuck indoors. That limits it.

Y&R used to do location work in LA, in places like streets, all the time. But we had a better producing team back then. Shaughnessy should come back or they should steal Jill from from GH.

LA can be a reasonable simulation for Wisconsin in the summer, it won't be 100% the same, but as long as they keep things simple, a location shoot in LA can be worked out. Don't tell me they can't go to one of the many parks around LA or something?

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I guess GH isn't going outdoors much either, eh? Yesterday, when I watched (episode was set at night) everything still struck me as so dark.

Nope, and it was a night episode, so things were supposed to be dark. Look at GH's cinematic lighting in HD, it does a better job of enhancing its picture quality in HD than Y&R's does at the moment.

This post has been edited by Y&RWorldTurner: 04 August 2009 - 03:57 PM

[MarkH]

Y&RWorldTurner, on 04 August 2009 - 04:56 PM, said:

Y&R used to do location work in LA, in places like streets, all the time. But we had a better producing team back then. Shaughnessy should come back or they should steal Jill from from GH.

I thought Y&R mostly went to Pittsburgh for that stuff. Anyway, I'll put it on the DVR after a bit of travel for the next week.

[CarlD2]

My biggest problem is with the writing and casting, but the hair on the show looks so bad most of the time.

This MJ story has become such a nightmare. What I hate the most is that when I read hype for this story at various sites or on the SOD cover it's all "wait until you see what she does next!" and she "seduces" Jack. She raped him. This isn't a fun stunt. This isn't shocking and crazy. It's a violation, and unfortunately, those now at Y&R have enough disregard for Jack that I don't believe they will treat this as anything other than a joke or a cheap plot point.

[bellcurve]

MarkH, on 04 August 2009 - 03:46 PM, said:

Well, I don't see that. I have been watching GH more, although I guess I'm not getting the best sample--Soapnet and ABC-online. It's not had the chance to sign on my Samsung. Maybe I need to try that once.

I've been watching GH on ABC.com and it looks GREAT to me. My monitor is HD, but they say online the video is in SD. Whatever...

Anyway, you should give it a go in HD. The show looks great.

[MichaelGL]

Yeah I gotta agree sadly that GH has been looking great. You can actually tell that color exists in Port Charles these days compared to before. Sad that the stories still suck.

[alphanguy74]

Y&RWorldTurner, on 04 August 2009 - 04:56 PM, said:

LA can be a reasonable simulation for Wisconsin in the summer, it won't be 100% the same, but as long as they keep things simple, a location shoot in LA can be worked out. Don't tell me they can't go to one of the many parks around LA or something.

There's no way that would work, EVER. Not unless they show only GRASS. Wisconsin is green, lush..... while LA is nothing but palm trees, and a bit of green... the parts that are hit with lawn sprinklers 3 times a day. But that is VERY rare considering the water shortages they have west of the rockies. Wisconsin is very much like where I live (ozarks) only colder. Los Angeles only gets 15 inches of rain a year, while I get 36 here, and Wisconsin is about the same. I've been to Los Angeles, and once you drive out of sight of an irrigated flower bed, the scenery looks like someone dropped a nuclear warhead on the place. Nothing but BROWN.... everywhere. The beach and oceanfront is the only part that's pretty. The scenes they shot during the Billy/Mac wedding were done in Pittsburgh (Jill running through the woods) and that looked accurate, her running throught he green grass, brushing aside the horse chestnut trees, it looked like a normal hardwood forest. You may not be familiar with this aspect of the US living in the UK... but climatalogically speaking, the outdoors west of the rocky mountains and east of the rocky mountains might as well be in two different countries, it's a DRASTIC difference.

[Y&RWorldTurner]

alphanguy74, on 05 August 2009 - 02:23 AM, said:

There's no way that would work, EVER. Not unless they show only GRASS.

I did say simple, nothing too complicated. Any grassy area would look more realistic than the fake plastic outdoor Newman Ranch set they have going now.

[alphanguy74]

Wisconsin:


Los Angeles:

[Y&RWorldTurner]

Not that I actually want location shoots, Mark brought them up. Better set design and better execution in HD is all I ask of.

[Paul Raven]

The MJ story is completely out of control.

it started off with promise as Victor summons a woman from Jack's past(???)to extract revenge for Jack's role in the diary scam.


Then almost immediatelty,it tapers off.Victor then announces,for no apparent reason,that he has dropped his plan.We never knew what it was in the first place.

Then we have the hints she is Patty,although she in no way resembles Patty in appearance or personality.Paul thinks he knows her,but that goes nowhere.

Viewers aren't given any background on what Patty has been doing for 20 +years and why she has become this psycho.

When the big reveal does come,most viewers will be saying so what, as they wouldn't even know Paul had a sister.

Paul has precious little story as it is.

As the character has no depth,I'd rather she was Lindsey Wells rather than Patty.



Re location shoots,why would Y&R travel to Pittsburgh,of all places.I remember one location for a car accident(was it Phyllis running down Christine?)where they taped there and all you saw was a street.Surely this could have been taped in LA?

[ian]

Honey, at least it's pittsburgh, not peapack.

[Y&RWorldTurner]

I'm not going to wrap this in spoiler tags, but one of the mags reported that Ashley will soon think she was the one that killed Sabrina.

Can this storyline get ANY WORSE? It's officially a train-wreck, and it's expiration date was weeks ago.

And how about that one-note cartoon Patty Jane, whose list of crimes just grows. Raping a man and killing a dog in the same day. Yeah, real longterm potential for her.

Y&R = train-wreck.

This post has been edited by Y&RWorldTurner: 05 August 2009 - 03:04 PM

[dmarex]

Y&RWorldTurner, on 05 August 2009 - 03:54 PM, said:

And how about that one-norte cartoon Patty Jane, whose l;ist of crimes just grows. Raping and killing a man and killing a dog in the same day. Yeah, real longterm potential for her.

Killing a man? Who did she kill, did I miss something? Or did you imagine this?

As sad as this may sound, I still want her redeemed (but not by this writing regime).

This post has been edited by dmarex: 05 August 2009 - 03:02 PM

[ian]

Y&RWorldTurner, on 05 August 2009 - 03:54 PM, said:

Raping and killing a man

She only raped him

[Y&RWorldTurner]

dmarex, on 05 August 2009 - 04:02 PM, said:

Killing a man? Who did she kill, did I miss something? Or did you imagine this?

As sad as this may sound, I still want her redeemed.

Ooops, I mean raping a man and killing a dog.

This character is ruined.

You know how bad these writers are. Her redemption will probably be crying and saying she's sorry for 5 minutes and then they'll drop everything.

She's committed WAY TOO MANY CRIMES in such a short period. I don't care for her anymore. Such a cartoon.

ian, on 05 August 2009 - 04:02 PM, said:

She only raped him

Zapato wanted some of her Kitty too!

This post has been edited by Y&RWorldTurner: 05 August 2009 - 03:05 PM

[ian]

MJ: Jack I am really sorry but like that one time you cheated on me so I shot you, yeah then I felt real guilty about shooting you and it made me crazy and if you dont forgive me I'm going to shoot you again

JACK: Well, you said you were sorry. How can I stay mad at you?

PHYLLIS: You made our daughter retarded

NICK: Phyllis! Didn't you hear the lady. SHE SAID SHE WAS SORRY

VICTOR: Well, if she's sorry that's good enough for me. You got that?