5 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

The Martin reveal was just so predictable and it just shows that the Duprees are just as corrupt as any other powerful family.  

Nicole's reaction will be epic once she finds out about this.. but of course, the show will find yet another opportunity to feature Dani (a one note character)

The one thing I noticed about the show is the rotating of characters in and out of focus.. with the majority of characters not being seen for several episodes.   The only character constantly shown, even though the majority of her appearances are basically a waste, is Dani.  

Yesterday and today.. there wasn't any reason for her to be on.

 

Could NOT disagree more if I tried

 

IMO a lot of y'all hyped this up in your head to be something huge and it wasn't what you figured it would be

I think it was great 

Dani is awesome, all soaps need a fire cracker like her 

29 minutes ago, ReddFoxx said:

The secret was already more or less revealed for the most part over course of the past couple of months so I wasn't let down. The suspense has shifted to what happens now and if the cover up will backfire.

That’s where I’m at with it.

20 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

Could NOT disagree more if I tried

 

IMO a lot of y'all hyped this up in your head to be something huge and it wasn't what you figured it would be

I think it was great 

 

I couldn’t agree more with you.

22 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

Could NOT disagree more if I tried

 

IMO a lot of y'all hyped this up in your head to be something huge and it wasn't what you figured it would be

 

My thoughts also.

In fact, I thought Martin killed someone, but wasn't sure that was the case. 

2 hours ago, alexisfan07 said:

Mike Manning finally being the chance to show why he was hired today! He was outstanding.

He was outstanding on Days of Our Lives too.

2 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

He was outstanding on Days of Our Lives too.

Meh

Marcel: Kenny I'm'a need you to lay there for this photo I got to send Bill. 

Kenny:

5 minutes ago, GLATWT88 said:

Marcel: Kenny I'm'a need you to lay there for this photo I got to send Bill. 

Kenny:

I was fine with the reveal. Like others, I am more interested in the fallout and long-term ramifications of the secret. If handled correctly, this can spin into new stories. 

But first, I would love to see how this night truly impacts a few of these men's lives going forward. 

Mike Manning deserves an Emmy for today’s episode. 
 

While watching today’s show I couldn’t help but to think….

Never think I’d see such a thing on a P&G produced soap. 

Today's episode -- in isolation -- was for the most part excellent.

-- Mike Manning was great, but Brandon Claybon was also very good. It's OK for you guys who don't like BC to admit when he has a good day, and that part of the reason MM is so successful is because BC is a good scene partner (and vice-versa).

-- The B&W scenes from 2 years ago were simple but very effective. I felt the danger and I felt the racism. I understood the rage.

 

However....

-- I agree with others that we could have been clued into what happened before this instead of secrets, secrets, secrets. It led to us thinking there was more to this than we got.

-- I still don't understand Martin not telling Smitty about what happened when sooooo many people knew, including the police and the town mobster.

-- I don't know why Martin's mother and father have been so sidelined in his life.

-- I don't like Vanessa accepting and even thirsting for the way Joey talks to her and treats her. It's abusive, frankly. I want Joey off my screen.

-- I don't know why Joey was ever brought on to handle Martin's case. All of these powerful people (including the police and the best lawyer in town) couldn't get Kenny under control?

-- I need to see law enforcement who work with Joey pay for it somehow.  

 

And by the way....

-- The episode opened with Anita rejecting a call on her cell. Is that connected to Naomi calling the number she got from June? I don't know why they'd write in that call rejection unless it meant something.

 

2 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Today's episode -- in isolation -- was for the most part excellent.

-- Mike Manning was great, but Brandon Claybon was also very good. It's OK for you guys who don't like BC to admit when he has a good day, and that part of the reason MM is so successful is because BC is a good scene partner (and vice-versa).

-- The B&W scenes from 2 years ago were simple but very effective. I felt the danger and I felt the racism. I understood the rage.

 

However....

-- I agree with others that we could have been clued into what happened before this instead of secrets, secrets, secrets. It led to us thinking there was more to this than we got.

-- I still don't understand Martin not telling Smitty about what happened when sooooo many people knew, including the police and the town mobster.

-- I don't know why Martin's mother and father have been so sidelined in his life.

-- I don't like Vanessa accepting and even thirsting for the way Joey talks to her and treats her. It's abusive, frankly. I want Joey off my screen.

-- I don't know why Joey was ever brought on to handle Martin's case. All of these powerful people (including the police and the best lawyer in town) couldn't get Kenny under control?

-- I need to see law enforcement who work with Joey pay for it somehow.  

 

And by the way....

-- The episode opened with Anita rejecting a call on her cell. Is that connected to Naomi calling the number she got from June? I don't know why they'd write in that call rejection unless it meant something.

 

Anita would’ve recognized her granddaughter Naomi’s phone number.

Its probably related to the Articulettes story.

Just now, Antoyne said:

Anita would’ve recognized her granddaughter Naomi’s phone number.

Its probably related to the Articulettes story.

Yeah, you're right. Now I feel dumb. 😂

Since BTG first started, I have sometimes thought of the fictional Duprees as a modern Black version of the 1950s and 1960s time period of the real-life Kennedy political family.   But the Duprees are more interesting to me now.
 

I remember all this Kennedy story, as I am elderly, but I'll summarize for any youngsters here:

Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. was wealthy and powerful with many political positions, and his wife Rose was the daughter of the Mayor of Boston; and all their progeny had influential careers and married influential people.  And of course, their sons JFK Sr., RFK Sr., and Ted were all famous politicians, their daughter Eunice founded the Special Olympics, and their daughter Jean was an Ambassador. Joseph P. Sr. was notorious for throwing around his power and influence back in the 1940s, in order to get JFK started in his career in Congress.  Being in Congress later led to JFK being able to run for the Senate and later the Presidency.

Joseph Sr. was a Democrat in name, but conservative in philosophy, and not a nice person, so in that way quite different from Vernon Dupree.   I wonder what Vernon's father was like?  They have Vernon's father's portrait on a wall on one of the sets but I don't know more than that he founded Fairmont Crest.

Okay to get back on point:  The Kennedys were considered golden in the 1950s and 1960s.

 After President John Kennedy was assassinated, his brother Senator Robert Sr. ran for President several years later, but was assassinated on the campaign trail.  Then Senator Ted was expected by the family to run for President but...

Then there was Senator Ted Kennedy and the Chappaquiddick incident that happened in 1969. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident
After a party, Ted Kennedy was supposedly driving a woman to her hotel, the car went off a bridge into the water, and he escaped but she didn't. He said that he dove in to try to rescue her but couldn't. He didn't notify the police until the next morning. She was later found dead in the car.  There was lots of confusion about what really happened, with various cousins trying to "fix" the situation before he went to the police. This was a few months before his dad Joseph Sr. died of old age, so the cousins did the fixing.

Huge thing in the news back then!   Ted had to drop out of the race for President.  He managed to keep his Senate seat.  He ran for President again years later but wasn't nominated.  It ended up working out because Ted remained working as a Senator for many years doing positive things.

I had wondered from watching BTG months ago if "Martin's secret" would be his Chappaquiddick. In some ways it is, in that it has (for now) delayed his plans to run for President.

But this is very different.  Ted Kennedy's behavior was odd.  Did he really try to rescue her? Why did he drive off the bridge?  He seems at fault for this but we'll never really know what happened that night in Chappaquiddick.   Certainly his negligence led to her death.  And he spent too much time dealing with friends/cousins/lawyers/fixers before going to the police.

Martin did nothing wrong.  Other than losing control and beating with the tire iron too long. But Martin wasn't drunk or partying or in questionable company.  He was defending his grandfather from horrible men who had a gun.  But Martin let his grandfather call Bill and Marcel to "fix" the situation and keep it quiet.

Ted Kennedy ended up giving a statement on TV.   I wonder if Martin will eventually do the same.

Edited July 17Jul 17 by janea4old

47 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

-- The episode opened with Anita rejecting a call on her cell. Is that connected to Naomi calling the number she got from June? I don't know why they'd write in that call rejection unless it meant something.

 

44 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Anita would’ve recognized her granddaughter Naomi’s phone number.

Its probably related to the Articulettes story.

Well maybe the phonecall that Anita declined to answer was from an Articulette who received that phonecall from Naomi who called about June . . . and eventually realized that Naomi is Anita's granddaughter?

Edited July 17Jul 17 by janea4old

5 hours ago, alexisfan07 said:

Mike Manning finally being the chance to show why he was hired today! He was outstanding.

💯