32 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

-- Tracy and Anita recited those lines about being together and finished in unison with "Articulettes strong." Sorry, that made no sense. The "________ strong" phrase didn't become a thing until the 2010's. No way were they saying it 25+ years ago

exactly!  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Strong

15 minutes ago, GLATWT88 said:

Derek gives off dumb jock vibes. He seems so unaware and confused by everything.

Same. I don't hate him for it, but Ashley ain't doing him any favors.

19 minutes ago, GLATWT88 said:

Derek gives off dumb jock vibes. He seems so unaware and confused by everything. 

OMG, Derek is BtG's version of an overgrown frat boy!

1 hour ago, Rmodelboy said:

Tracy looks like Hayley who looks like June and they all look like Debbi Morgan

Marquita Goings (Hayley) played a younger version of Debbi Morgan's character in this project:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15364098/
I agree that June sounds like Hayley, and Tracy looks like Debbi Morgan!
 

19 minutes ago, GLATWT88 said:

Like how at your big age don't you think scrubbing something like stainless steel with a scouring pad is a bad idea?

-- More bad writing.

We've been told how Derek takes care of his vehicle. A guy who knows how to detail a car/truck would not be so stupid as to use steel wool on stainless.

-- Oh, and here's more bad writing. Tomas said he was bumped from a case by another lawyer and was going home to work. Haven't we been told he's on the partner track? There's no way he'd be bumped on a case.

8 minutes ago, kalbir said:

OMG, Derek is BtG's version of an overgrown frat boy!

Or the typical soap himbo. 

1 hour ago, ranger1rg said:

Ashley responds like a 12 year old to everything. It's embarrassing. When Jacob told her to text Derek, she said "What if he doesn't answer?" Jesus. Every response she has comes off like an emotional release from a teenager.

Like a 12-year-old

Edited May 21May 21 by janea4old

5-19

 

You know what? I actually didn't dislike it as much the second time around. But tbf, I didn't hate it the first time either. It's already been established so far that RC's breakdowns can be pretty hit or miss. And I would say his average so far on this show has been 50/50.

 

Outside of Jacob vs Silk Press Sheila, it was all B/C plots. However, I got the sense that there was plot movement...something for better or for worse, RC does know how to do. And even within those plots, I felt there were so good character development moments.

 

What really stood out for me was Doug and Vanessa's last scene. FINALLY, they stopped dancing around it. And we got more information on what their arrangement truly is in terms of their marriage. Given the building toward it through Vanessa's sexacapedes and Doug's gambling storyline, it felt earned. And lest we forget...he still didn't tell her about his addiction nor what's going on with Joey. Meanwhile, Dani is slowly getting clues from seeing Vanessa with Joey one episode to seeing Doug in the middle of the afternoon on this episode. I don't see it as them shoving her into a storyline unlike Carly on GH if an example is needed, but it wasn't exactly organic either. Then again, the Vanessa with Joey scene was organic. Not the gambling stuff. 

 

I did like it though. It was a nice spotlight for the Dani/Pamela friendship. And I also liked the idea that was mentioned about a Pamela vs Vanessa feud. After all, regardless of what's written on the page, they both appear on screen to be close to Dani. And I find it relatable to see two friends have issues when they are close friends to the same person, but NOT to each other. And their scene with Diego was ripe with tension.

 

Just cuz...HEY, DIEGO, HEY!! lol.

 

I loved Jacob vs SilkPress. The web that girl stays weaving continues to be fascinating to watch. I know we have discussed at length about how long SilkPress can stay on the canvas. As soon as it's figured out what she's done with Laura and allegedly Eva/Kat, it's OVER. And such a soap find...it's fascinating to watch a crafty villainess worming her way around getting caught. Which is giving old school soap. I also love that in her worming her way out of the charges, no one is being dumbed down to keep her on the canvas. So this next turn in the story is great, refreshing, and probably should be studied by other soaps.

 

I enjoyed Dani and Andre. Again, it has had a build. And technically if we are going there, it's about to be three months. Usually three months is the perfect time to start having the 'what are we' conversation...whether someone is casually dating or just being a booty call. And that look Andre gave Dani when she said Bill's name...oooooo he's finally over her talking about him and showing a sign of possessiveness. It's also not lost on me that his reaction to her saying her reasons...was to leave. Big uh oh for them. Where will Dani/Andre go next?

 

Well...look who got comfortable enough in his role that he gave some good acting aka Tomas. I liked the scenes with Tomas and Kat on a second watch. But I don't think Kat's wrong with what she said. She's so busy and focused on Eva though, she's ignoring red signs with him I am afraid.

 

And speaking on comfortable...look at Derek trying to act. lol. Personally, I thought both actor and actress did good jobs. And again, it's had enough of a build, you knew it was coming. And I'm surprised to type it, but I was Team Derek for that argument. He was trying to make her feel better, and it just made things worse. And Ashley was being unsufferable. How was he to know about the curry? And of course, she runs right into Andre. 

 

Decent cliffhanger though I'm a firm NO to Andre/Ashley versus me being open to it at the start of the show. Wow...how things have changed.

Another episode breakdown by RC. That wasn't great to see on screen.

I thought the Laura and Leslie scenes were a dream sequence. 

The episode was better than yesterday's episode.

I'm not feeling the Anita story at all. 

Ashley and Derek continue to be a bore. 

2 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

I thought the Laura and Leslie scenes were a dream sequence. 

Which RC isn't above doing so thank goodness that was not the case.

3 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

 

 

 

-- Tracy and Anita recited those lines about being together and finished in unison with "Articulettes strong." Sorry, that made no sense. The "________ strong" phrase didn't become a thing until the 2010's. No way were they saying it 25+ years ago.

 

This sort of error is not uncommon now because writers don't put much thought into matching language and lingo with time periods.

Yeah… #FreeDerek 😂😂😂

Tues ep opens with Princess Kit Kat  dumping exposition dialogue to Jacob.

I really can't take her seriously in those outfits. Like she literally puts on that get up to wander around all day? What exactly does she do?

OMG Derek-is he a cyborg? Jan comes by all chatty and natural and he literally stands there.

I'm sorry, but is the actor watching himself? There's no body movement whatsever.He just recites lines.

And Ted was replaced?

And why didn't they just make Derek a cop? He could naturally be in scenes with Jacob, instead of those visits to the set.

 Dedicated wonder nurse Ashley upsets the hospital schedule b/c of her private life. Honey, maybe work would be a distraction?

 

@Paul Raven, agreed. I never understood why Derek was made a firefighter unless this show has some big fire sweeps coming up. I feel that's an uneventful job for a character to have on soaps with its limited budget. I do think that if he were a cop alongside Jacob, that would've probably endeared us to him more b/c his existence wouldn't be only Ashley.

Speaking of Jacob, did they just drop the shady partner story? They really need to speed up Joey's story. 

MVJ is strong with the Duprees, but (and I am saying this out of love) she must tighten up on the side character stories if she wants them to be just as viable. Otherwise, I see this show falling to the same trap as B&B and Santa Barbara, where side characters rarely thrive. 

Derek is a firefighter, yet we haven't met any of his co-workers or friends, and there is no set location for his job. Derek is so isolated from everyone else.

@NothinButAttitude I wonder the same thing about the crooked cop story. Where did it go?