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I am dipping briefly into this thread just to say that some of y'all need to stop giving Ron Carlivati and Jamey Giddens more power than they have over Michele Val Jean or BTG.  I realize most of us have soap fan PTSD when it comes to those two, but you're acting as if Ron and Jamey, and Ron and Jamey alone, are shaping the direction and tone of this show, or that the Black woman in charge is too damn stupid or weak to push back on their more heinous ideas.  Frankly, it's insulting - to her, and to everyone else connected with BTG.  Just. Stop.

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A breakdown writer only has power to take MVJ's bible/projections and break it down into episodic form. At the end of the day, they still have to answer to her. I don't think she's going to allow JG and RC to camp it up and have it be a mess like DOOL was. I understand her hiring them as they're seasoned and she's worked with Jamey before. She knows his work ethic. 

And I don't even mind them pitching ideas to her, but I think MVJ is strong enough to know her vision and know how to rein them in. At the end of the day, this is her baby. I doubt she's gonna allow anyone to destroy it. 

That aside, why am I just noticing that the show is being preempted due to basketball?!

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I really love the music on this show.

 

Interesting. It makes me wonder how long Ted and Silk Press Sheila had the affair now after that bit of tea from Silky. But I feel that while she might be lying about a lot of things, I feel there is also some nuggets of truth in what she says.

 

 

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And if she does want Ron, Jamey and the rest of her staff to "camp it up," that's not to say it won't be GOOD camp, know what I mean?

As you've said, @NothinButAttitude, she's hired them, because they're experienced - and that's what she needs right now, too: writers with experience, because she's too busy just trying to get this show off the ground to have to stop and train new writers on how to write outlines or scripts.  Maybe, once everything settles, that'll change.  For now, however, I'm trusting MVJ to know exactly her vision for her show and how best to achieve it.

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Ashley was more animated and interesting when interacting with her mom.  Of course, we already knew her mom had some personality since she and Silk Press Sheila have friendship chemistry.

Speaking of which, Eva and Silk Press Sheila each have pulled a stunt that the other isn't aware of yet.  Eva having her mama kicked out while Silk Press Sheila did a bit of bumper cars with the assistants vehicle.   I have a feeling this tale/scheme will climax in May.. I feel it in my bones.

I know that a wait and see attitude is in order for Ron C and Jamey... but breakdown writers make sure that the head writer and their vision is laid out effectively.  MVJ/Guza might have a good idea, but if the person implementing the idea is subpar then it doesn't matter how the good idea was.... and Ron C and Jamey don't exactly have a good track record (from what I hear, some viewers haven't been thrilled with Jamey's contributions at Days although the quality hasn't been good there for awhile).

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I see what you did there

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They are the weak links of the show so far.

Andre comforted and supported Dani. I'm sensing a love slowly growing in two weary hearts.

Why are Andre/Ashley being shipped? I'm not seeing it.

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Yep. And she can easily phase them out once the inexperienced writers gain footing. 

And I don't mind camp, which the show has already displayed, in moderation and when it makes sense. 

But I don't see Jamey or Ron being in the driver's seat anytime soon. 

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I am not afraid, but I agree. There has to be something more to her, right? I had the same thoughts watching the episode of Nicole being honored. The mystery & intrigue missing from that episode was “We The Audience” should've knew something about Nicole none of the characters knew. 

On one of the podcasts I listen to called Nicole The Black Marlena LOL, I am not sure I want her to go down that crazy/split personality/Twin route yet. 

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-- Today's episode was just ok, and a step down from what we've been getting. Definitely underwhelming for a Wednesday cliffhanger. Y&R was actually much better.

-- The Derek and Ashley stuff is awful, and she's as much to blame as he is. There's no way he'd be permitted to go back to work so soon, and I think Ashley should share her Andre thoughts with a best friend, not her mother.

-- And can Ashley stop looking at those photos Andre took? Weird.

-- In fact, this show overdoes the "looking at photos" thing. I'm looking at you, Nicole.

-- Still have no idea why the show wants to go there with Andre and Ashley. I see no reason he should be interested in her.

-- I wanted more biting dialogue in some scenes today. Didn't get it.

 

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